Topic: Hold your breath and look at this giant guy's proportions (Read 15036 times)

FutureLengthener · « **on:** January 18, 2015, 05:03:56 AM »

After I got over the fact that his mom is taller than his dad, and how he dwarfs BOTH of them, I realized that all his extra height comes from his legs. Or almost all of it. This guy would make Apo look proportional in comparison! The distance between the top of his speedo and the top of his mom's is almost equal to their total height difference. If we would see a picture of him from head to toe he definitely wouldn't look proportionate, but it would look "natural" since theres almost a 0% chance he did LL.

His arms are also short. The only mitigating factors are that he has pretty muscular legs and a wide torso. I'm starting to think that there's like a universal minimum sitting height of tall men--probably about 37 inches or 93cm--that anyone who has it can pull off a lot of LL and become a leggy, but still reasonable looking tall guy.

ReadRothbard · « **Reply #1 on:** January 18, 2015, 06:59:29 AM »

well, my sitting height is slightly more than 37 inches, so I'm good.

Taller · « **Reply #2 on:** January 18, 2015, 07:09:47 AM »

96cm or 38 inches of sitting height checking in! My sitting height at 178/179 is indisputably higher than that of my 187-188CM friend. He has much longer arms than I, though.

Uppland · « **Reply #3 on:** January 18, 2015, 07:55:04 AM »

Yeah tall men (190+) usually gain a lot of height from their legs and even though their arms are basically always longer than shorter men they don't look it because their huge size make their arms look small anyway.

My uncle is 195CM and looks like he's lengthened his legs 6-7CM. When we had a family dinner at new years eve I remember he was only 1-3CM taller than me sitting down but his frame dwarfs me. His shoulders, hands and everything else is intimidatingly big.

I don't think long legs is much of a problem at all if you've got the width plus arm lenght to carry it off -unfortunately I don't.

ReadRothbard · « **Reply #4 on:** January 18, 2015, 07:57:52 AM »

I've got plenty of width, but not a lot of arm length. I'd be cool if I lengthened to humerus 5 c. Per arm, though, with the guichet nail.

joax · « **Reply #5 on:** January 18, 2015, 08:08:08 AM »

That's what I've been saying all along. Proportions don't matter that much.

Uppland · « **Reply #6 on:** January 18, 2015, 11:22:03 AM »

Quote from: ReadRothbard on January 18, 2015, 07:57:52 AM

I've got plenty of width, but not a lot of arm length. I'd be cool if I lengthened to humerus 5 c. Per arm, though, with the guichet nail.

Why do you prefer internal AL over external?

I know scarring is an issue but can't scars be removed by a plastic surgeon?

ReadRothbard · « **Reply #7 on:** January 18, 2015, 06:22:41 PM »

Quote from: Uppland on January 18, 2015, 11:22:03 AM

Why do you prefer internal AL over external?

I know scarring is an issue but can't scars be removed by a plastic surgeon?

The Guichet nail is faster, so I can return to powerlifting quicker.

ForcedPuberty · « **Reply #8 on:** January 19, 2015, 03:00:57 AM »

internal for humerus is suicide.

ONLY PEOPLE WHO ARE INFATUATED WITH INTERNALS CANT WORK THIS OUT,

people seem to think that magically everything turns to gold when you do ll if you spend 100k and get internals.

people need to use their brains.

Outgrown · « **Reply #9 on:** January 19, 2015, 03:28:00 AM »

Quote from: ForcedPuberty on January 19, 2015, 03:00:57 AM

internal for humerus is suicide.

ONLY PEOPLE WHO ARE INFATUATED WITH INTERNALS CANT WORK THIS OUT,

people seem to think that magically everything turns to gold when you do ll if you spend 100k and get internals.

people need to use their brains.

The humerus is one of the easiest bones to lengthen. When it comes to forearms, it shouldn't even be attempted doing so.

ReadRothbard · « **Reply #10 on:** January 19, 2015, 03:37:09 AM »

Quote from: Outgrown on January 19, 2015, 03:28:00 AM

The humerus is one of the easiest bones to lengthen. When it comes to forearms, it shouldn't even be attempted doing so.

I'm starting to think he's just a giant troll.

ForcedPuberty · « **Reply #11 on:** January 19, 2015, 03:50:38 AM »

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The humerus is one of the easiest bones to lengthen. When it comes to forearms, it shouldn't even be attempted doing so.

yes it is the easiest segment to lengthen.

that doesn't change the accuracy of my statement.

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internal for humerus is suicide.

ONLY PEOPLE WHO ARE INFATUATED WITH INTERNALS CANT WORK THIS OUT,

people seem to think that magically everything turns to gold when you do ll if you spend 100k and get internals.

people need to use their brains.

ForcedPuberty · « **Reply #12 on:** January 19, 2015, 03:56:13 AM »

read rothbard if it were not for people like me you would still be trying to convince the entire forum that 10cm on tibia and 10 cm on femur for a total of 20cm is COMPLEATLY EASY AND SAFE. just like when you first joined this forumn.

you keep stating bull and so I keep having to correct you.

all the things I correct you on are all situations where you keep insisting that you understand how society views things.

lets get 1 thing clear. Asperger's, is an autism spectrum disorder (ASD) that is characterized by significant difficulties in social interaction and nonverbal communication,

you don't understand how people treat you if you really have this condition, and you don't understand how society views things in a social setting especially in regards to height in a lot of situations if you have this condition.

this is why you don't like me and keep saying things like im a troll. is because you prefer to have people tell you what you want to hear, you want yes men to validate your opinions. but you keep stating that you are correct with such ferocity on issues when you have a mental illness that states that you cant possibly understand these issues.

ReadRothbard · « **Reply #13 on:** January 19, 2015, 04:40:10 AM »

Quote from: ForcedPuberty on January 19, 2015, 03:56:13 AM

read rothbard if it were not for people like me you would still be trying to convince the entire forum that 10cm on tibia and 10 cm on femur for a total of 20cm is COMPLEATLY EASY AND SAFE. just like when you first joined this forumn.

you keep stating bull crap and so I keep having to correct you.

all the things I correct you on are all situations where you keep insisting that you understand how society views things.

lets get 1 thing clear. Asperger's, is an autism spectrum disorder (ASD) that is characterized by significant difficulties in social interaction and nonverbal communication,

you don't understand how people treat you if you really have this condition, and you don't understand how society views things in a social setting especially in regards to height in a lot of situations if you have this condition.

this is why you don't like me and keep saying things like im a troll. is because you prefer to have people tell you what you want to hear, you want yes men to validate your opinions. but you keep stating that you are correct with such ferocity on issues when you have a mental illness that states that you cant possibly understand these issues.

I understand these issues better than you.

You're just a bitter man that is set in his world view and is unwilling to take input from anyone else. I still think 10 cm per segment can be safe, but all the recovery time needed to make it happen just isn't worth it.

ForcedPuberty · « **Reply #14 on:** January 19, 2015, 04:45:11 AM »

don't try to downplay your quote.

your saying 10cm per segment, so what your really saying is you still think 20cm total is safe............ why cant you learn.

Uppland · « **Reply #15 on:** January 19, 2015, 05:26:05 AM »

Quote from: ReadRothbard on January 19, 2015, 04:40:10 AM

I understand these issues better than you.

You're just a bitter man that is set in his world view and is unwilling to take input from anyone else. I still think 10 cm per segment can be safe, but all the recovery time needed to make it happen just isn't worth it.

Readrotbard I like you and you mostly post respectable stuff but Forcedpuberty is right about the bias on here to tell each other what we want to hear. He's a bit rude about it sure but the fact of the matter is that in the vast amount of cases cosmetically lengthening 20CM is not advisable nor safe. You will survive and you will probably walk again but that's about it. I remember a user on this forum posted just about a week ago that he did 17CM in total and couldn't run anymore -he literally lost the ability to run said he just couldn't anymore.

We all want to gain 15CM+ but even if your proportions could handle it it is highly unlikely that your body could.

ReadRothbard · « **Reply #16 on:** January 19, 2015, 06:16:04 AM »

Quote from: Uppland on January 19, 2015, 05:26:05 AM

Readrotbard I like you and you mostly post respectable stuff but Forcedpuberty is right about the bias on here to tell each other what we want to hear. He's a bit rude about it sure but the fact of the matter is that in the vast amount of cases cosmetically lengthening 20CM is not advisable nor safe. You will survive and you will probably walk again but that's about it. I remember a user on this forum posted just about a week ago that he did 17CM in total and couldn't run anymore -he literally lost the ability to run said he just couldn't anymore.

We all want to gain 15CM+ but even if your proportions could handle it it is highly unlikely that your body could.

The problem I have with this statement is that we don't have much evidence to support it. There are only a few diaries of those whom have done 20 cm, and those individuals have either done their lengthening with Dr. Betz or Dr. Sarin--one whom is a fraud and another whom's methods are questionable at best. There are, however, two studies that seem to demonstrate a full-recovery of a amateur athletic abilities in those whom have lengthened up to 11 cm on the tibias (with about 18 patients lengthening between 8-11 cm). The point is, while I do advise caution (which is why I am not doing 10 cm a segment no matter how much I would want to), we don't know what the safe limits are. There is evidence to suggest that 10 cm a segment can be safe, both from medical observations and studies themselves, but it is not definitive, for sure. There are also those, like Dr. Paley and Dr. Parihar, who advise no more than 12-15 cm total. We don't know yet,

Uppland · « **Reply #17 on:** January 19, 2015, 06:37:37 AM »

I would say it's common sense but I really don't want to argue about it, if you won't risk it why do you insist on trying to keep the possibility open? I guess it all depends on how you deine "safe".

ItsMyLife · « **Reply #18 on:** January 19, 2015, 08:13:21 AM »

Quote from: ReadRothbard on January 19, 2015, 04:40:10 AM

I understand these issues better than you.

You're just a bitter man that is set in his world view and is unwilling to take input from anyone else. I still think 10 cm per segment can be safe, but all the recovery time needed to make it happen just isn't worth it.

forget it hes just a weirdo... self-convinced that he knows it all

ForcedPuberty · « **Reply #19 on:** January 19, 2015, 02:43:13 PM »

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I would say it's common sense but I really don't want to argue about it, if you won't risk it why do you insist on trying to keep the possibility open? I guess it all depends on how you deine "safe".

he kept stating for the longest time it was completely safe when he first arrived and that he intended and stated he was going to do 20cm.

he only changed his opinion after I argued black and blue with him and kept insisting how crazy 20cm was.

as for why he keeps the possibility open. who really knows.

my guess would be a lot of people fantasize about things and I would not be surprised if he does over lengthen if he ever gets surgery. it could also be his way of reassuring himself that he will recover 100% at 15cm if he thinks 20cm can be easily recovered if the person is dedicated with PT. people find solace in self reassurance that what they are choosing to do will turn out fine.

my statement to rothbard has and always will be the same. stop leading newcomers to hell, if you think 20cm is safe then write a diary and prove it with your own legs, but as long as there is no diary I will always be there to say that 20cm is crazy so that all the newbs don't have bad guidance and hurt themselves. people stating crazy things like 20cm is easy if your dedicated and is safe, can hurt others.

if readrothbard wants to hurt himself I don't care. but im not going to let him delude others with foolish notions of grandiose heights and goals which will lead others to ruin. so many people have been crippled or hurt doing so much less than 20cm.

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forget it hes just a weirdo... self-convinced that he knows it all

if it is weird to insist that 20cm is crazy or to list facts then I am guilty.
its funny how people are so out of touch with reality that they despise truth over Etiquette.
people will ignore facts if trey find Etiquette offensive, even going so far as to disbelieve said facts because of this non adherence to Etiquette.

ReadRothbard · « **Reply #20 on:** January 19, 2015, 05:56:07 PM »

Quote from: ForcedPuberty on January 19, 2015, 02:43:13 PM

he kept stating for the longest time it was completely safe when he first arrived and that he intended and stated he was going to do 20cm.

he only changed his opinion after I argued black and blue with him and kept insisting how crazy 20cm was.

as for why he keeps the possibility open. who really knows.

my guess would be a lot of people fantasize about things and I would not be surprised if he does over lengthen if he ever gets surgery. it could also be his way of reassuring himself that he will recover 100% at 15cm if he thinks 20cm can be easily recovered if the person is dedicated with PT. people find solace in self reassurance that what they are choosing to do will turn out fine.

my statement to rothbard has and always will be the same. stop leading newcomers to hell, if you think 20cm is safe then write a diary and prove it with your own legs, but as long as there is no diary I will always be there to say that 20cm is crazy so that all the newbs don't have bad guidance and hurt themselves. people stating crazy things like 20cm is easy if your dedicated and is safe, can hurt others.

if readrothbard wants to hurt himself I don't care. but im not going to let him delude others with foolish notions of grandiose heights and goals which will lead others to ruin. so many people have been crippled or hurt doing so much less than 20cm.

if it is weird to insist that 20cm is crazy or to list facts then I am guilty.
its funny how people are so out of touch with reality that they despise truth over Etiquette.
people will ignore facts if trey find Etiquette offensive, even going so far as to disbelieve said facts because of this non adherence to Etiquette.

I knew this was GROWtallORdieTRYING's new account!

ForcedPuberty · « **Reply #21 on:** January 19, 2015, 07:09:34 PM »

im not growtaller. there are many people who have told you are crazy for wanting 20cm. you call every single person growtaller, last week it was slim tim. geese your paranoid.

TomD · « **Reply #22 on:** January 19, 2015, 07:42:31 PM »

Quote from: Uppland on January 19, 2015, 05:26:05 AM

Readrotbard I like you and you mostly post respectable stuff but Forcedpuberty is right about the bias on here to tell each other what we want to hear. He's a bit rude about it sure but the fact of the matter is that in the vast amount of cases cosmetically lengthening 20CM is not advisable nor safe. You will survive and you will probably walk again but that's about it. I remember a user on this forum posted just about a week ago that he did 17CM in total and couldn't run anymore -he literally lost the ability to run said he just couldn't anymore.

We all want to gain 15CM+ but even if your proportions could handle it it is highly unlikely that your body could.

The doctors who designed fitbone put a cap on 8cm femur 6cm tibs. I would like to think that is the standard norm. I dont see 14cm being an unnecessary risk.

Doctors like the 5 and 5 because there is virtually no way they could face a lawsuit with this kind of low stress. They are being prudent.

I dont understand 10cm but hey, what if some guy has miniature legs and a large torso? I guess he could do it but he would probably have to go at .5mm a day after he crossed the 5cm mark. The extra time might allow the nerves, tendons and muscle groups a chance to catch up.

Outgrown · « **Reply #23 on:** January 19, 2015, 08:31:39 PM »

Quote from: TomD on January 19, 2015, 07:42:31 PM

The doctors who designed fitbone put a cap on 8cm femur 6cm tibs. I would like to think that is the standard norm. I dont see 14cm being an unnecessary risk.

Doctors like the 5 and 5 because there is virtually no way they could face a lawsuit with this kind of low stress. They are being prudent.

I dont understand 10cm but hey, what if some guy has miniature legs and a large torso? I guess he could do it but he would probably have to go at .5mm a day after he crossed the 5cm mark. The extra time might allow the nerves, tendons and muscle groups a chance to catch up.

Why not? He's just willing to do what's possible. After all, we are different biologically.

ReadRothbard · « **Reply #24 on:** January 20, 2015, 12:47:33 AM »

Quote from: Outgrown on January 19, 2015, 08:31:39 PM

Why not? He's just willing to do what's possible. After all, we are different biologically.

My legs are really short with a large torso, but I am still not doing 20 cm total. I'm sticking to 7 cm tibias and 8 cm femurs.

Outgrown · « **Reply #25 on:** January 20, 2015, 01:23:32 AM »

Quote from: ReadRothbard on January 20, 2015, 12:47:33 AM

My legs are really short with a large torso, but I am still not doing 20 cm total. I'm sticking to 7 cm tibias and 8 cm femurs.

Not bad at all.

ReadRothbard · « **Reply #26 on:** January 20, 2015, 01:36:39 AM »

Yep, it should be more than enough to put me past 6'0. With that height of 184-185 cm, I should stand at around 6'2 with shoes on.

SpaniardHobbit · « **Reply #27 on:** January 20, 2015, 02:03:04 AM »

185cm is incredibly sweet. here also considering you lift, you won't look disproportionated.

I don't have a long torso and its hard to me to get bulk (although i try to lift constantly) so i think i'll go for 175cm/5.9''. Not as sweet as going beyond 6.0'', but i guess enough to make height not being a problem anymore

ReadRothbard · « **Reply #28 on:** January 20, 2015, 02:36:29 AM »

5'9 should be good. 5'10 would be even better, though.

Morgenst. · « **Reply #29 on:** January 20, 2015, 02:48:40 AM »

Hey you guys think an wingspan 5 to 6cm shorter than your height would really stand out? I personally don't think so but think you all would know better

Uppland · « **Reply #30 on:** January 20, 2015, 03:34:40 AM »

Quote from: Herron52 on January 20, 2015, 02:48:40 AM

Hey you guys think an wingspan 5 to 6cm shorter than your height would really stand out? I personally don't think so but think you all would know better

My wingspan is naturally 5CM less than my height but how it'll look depends on how much of that number is your arm lenght and how much is made up of your shoulders.

My arms are normal so they will start to look short after 8-10CM of increased height, my shoulders are narrow but so are the rest of my build so I look slim at 187CM rather than like a stick. Try out your own proportions by either wearing really tall lifts or just standing on your tip toes inside a pair of boots.

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