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[TomD]

My point was is that most women 5'6" and under will date a guy 5'7". Yes they want a tall man but they'll still date a man who's 5'7" or 5'8". Anything less than 5'6" isn't good not detrimental but not good.

No , they dont. Again, I used to think that exact thing but it was a lie. Women will choose tall men over short men. This idea that a woman who will date a 5ft7 or 8 man  when she has a choice of 6ft  men is ridiculous. We would have to have several other advantages over the guy 5ft 11 or 6ft.

What you are suggesting is they would rather date us ......................then be ALONE. Well yeah, if you put it that way then if we are their best choice available then they will date us.

We will date FAT women, even OBESE women if they are the best available to us.

[Moubgf]

5'11 Below average? Where do you live 

[123]

No , they dont. Again, I used to think that exact thing but it was a lie. Women will choose tall men over short men. This idea that a woman who will date a 5ft7 or 8 man  when she has a choice of 6ft  men is ridiculous. We would have to have several other advantages over the guy 5ft 11 or 6ft.

What you are suggesting is they would rather date us ......................then be ALONE. Well yeah, if you put it that way then if we are their best choice available then they will date us.

We will date FAT women, even OBESE women if they are the best available to us.

Damm, you are such a pathetic loser, don't spill around your bull . Women only really care about height when a guy is 5'6 or shorter. Height is not as important as you all make it out to be.

[Moubgf]

Damm, you are such a pathetic loser, don't spill around your bullcrap. Women only really care about height when a guy is 5'6 or shorter. Height is not as important as you all make it out to be.

No you are a naive and uninformed man..he is right. We talking quality women and quality life we talking height.

We talking man looking women without make up?
Then yes height matters less then.

If that wasnt the case 50% of us would not have done this surgery.

[123]

No you are a naive and uninformed man..he is right. We talking quality women and quality life we talking height.

We talking man looking women without make up?
Then yes height matters less then.

If that wasnt the case 50% of us would not have done this surgery.

Ok, my bad then. I'll let you insecure losers among yourselves then, sorry for destroying your "reality".

No one cares if you are 5'8 or 6' but I guess you all know better. You guys will never be happy, don't do LL, it won't help any of you and you will just waste that doctors time. Better go and cry in a corner with the tall insecure morons who are 180cm+ and still feel discriminated because they are short. Then you can tell each other why you don't get any pussy at all.

[Moubgf]

Ok, my bad then. I'll let you insecure losers among yourselves then, sorry for destroying your "reality".

No one cares if you are 5'8 or 6' but I guess you all know better. You guys will never be happy, don't do LL, it won't help any of you and you will just waste that doctors time. Better go and cry in a corner with the tall insecure morons who are 180cm+ and still feel discriminated because they are short. Then you can tell each other why you don't get any pussy at all.

Lol you are just as insecure as i am. Yes i will laugh in the corner when im 5'11 and removed heightism from my reality.

You seriously dont know how perception wise tall people are to short or average people?

Time to expand your awarness.

[Smallguy]

Damm, you are such a pathetic loser, don't spill around your bullcrap. Women only really care about height when a guy is 5'6 or shorter. Height is not as important as you all make it out to be.

Agreed. He wouldn't be the type of friends you would want to meet in person. Full of dark clouds and obstacles. People like this are only there to drag you down and remind you of your short-coming.

Here is a scenario.

Me: Hey, there are two chicks standing over there. I think we should hit on them.

Him: I feel kind of short today. Maybe today is not my day. Wait after I get LL.

Me: How about you just come with me? And I'll do all the talking.

Him: Actually, the one on the left looks kind of tall. Tall women would never like short me.

Me: How about you just put on some lifts?

... and as we're busy debating this, two other short guys went over and pick up those chicks.

No you are a naive and uninformed man..he is right. We talking quality women and quality life we talking height.

We talking man looking women without make up?
Then yes height matters less then.

If that wasnt the case 50% of us would not have done this surgery.

Yeah man, it sucks being short. But what can you do? You can just sit there and whine, or you can come out and make the best out of what you have. Life is not always perfect. There is always flaw and set-back. You choose to start life after your LL. But I'm starting and enjoying my life now and all the way up to my LL. LL is just an icing on the cake.

True, I don't have the life wisdom and am broke... even though I make $55k/year. But every day, I go out, on the subway, and if there is an opportunity, speak with one girl I find attractive. My record so far has been one quality contact per day on top of work, gym and school commitment.

Sorry to disappoint you. But I'm been following your comments for a while. You will be after LL as you are now. And your posts reflect the type of person you are. L****

[Moubgf]

Agreed. He wouldn't be the type of friends you would want to meet in person. Full of dark clouds and obstacles. People like this are only there to drag you down and remind you of your short-coming.

Here is a scenario.

Me: Hey, there are two chicks standing over there. I think we should hit on them.

Him: I feel kind of short today. Maybe today is not my day. Wait after I get LL.

Me: How about you just come with me? And I'll do all the talking.

Him: Actually, the one on the left looks kind of tall. Tall women would never like short me.

Me: How about you just put on some lifts?

... and as we're busy debating this, two other short guys went over and pick up those chicks.

Yeah man, it sucks being short. But what can you do? You can just sit there and whine, or you can come out and make the best out of what you have. Life is not always perfect. There is always flaw and set-back. You choose to start life after your LL. But I'm starting and enjoying my life now and all the way up to my LL. LL is just an icing on the cake.

True, I don't have the life wisdom and am broke... even though I make $55k/year. But every day, I go out, on the subway, and if there is an opportunity, speak with one girl I find attractive. My record so far has been one quality contact per day on top of work, gym and school commitment.

Sorry to disappoint you. But I'm been following your comments for a while. You will be after LL as you are now. And your posts reflect the type of person you are. L****

Yep because everything is black and white. And your comment is more valid than mine. Anything else on your mind mr.freud?

Lets change it up for some perspective shall we?

If a fat man complained about his weight you all would put him down saying "if it was not his weight" it be something else.

Lord and behold this gentlemen found the gym 6 months after and is now 1 year later in amazing shape and has NO let me repeat that NO complaints in his life. Simply this obstacle was his downfall not his entire being.

But you dont get that because you never think and think its like in the tabloids with people going overboard with plastic surgerys like a sheep you soak that in. And you use that way of thinking everytime someone legit complains in order make sense of it.

You dont know crap and you are probably of the older generation in that case i cant blame you for your ignorance.

[Moubgf]

How tall are you anyway?

[123]

Lol you are just as insecure as i am. Yes i will laugh in the corner when im 5'11 and removed heightism from my reality.

You seriously dont know how perception wise tall people are to short or average people?

Time to expand your awarness and shut the fk up.

Damm, I almost feel sad for you. But whatever all of you say you are all wrong. Of course you will never realize that, but being around 5'9 is perfectly fine. It's sad that you guys think that's the reason you don't have a job or a girlfriend or whatever.

But hey better blame others then suicide I guess.

[Moubgf]

Damm, I almost feel sad for you. But whatever all of you say you are all wrong. Of course you will never realize that, but being around 5'9 is perfectly fine. It's sad that you guys think that's the reason you don't have a job or a girlfriend or whatever.

But hey better blame others then suicide I guess.

How does it feel to focus on a dot every argument and make assumptions too?

I had multiple gf and jobs my first was at my dads company. So lets just day im set for life in that regard. But i want to pay for th surgery myself actually its already payed. Just waiting for the big day to come.

Why do you feel like you have to put others down who dont follow your way of thinking. Monkeys do that.

5'9 is nice for a introvert who does the same routine in life a calm life basically. But for extrovert who wants to life to the fullest without hinderence. Id say 5'10-5'11 is sufficient. But thats just me right.

[123]

How does it feel to focus on a dot every argument and make assumptions too?

I had multiple gf and jobs my first was at my dads company. So lets just day im set for life in that regard. But i want to pay for th surgery myself actually its already payed. Just waiting for the big day to come.

Why do you feel like you have to put others down who dont follow your way of thinking. Monkeys do that.

5'9 is nice for a introvert who does the same routine in life until he witters away. But for extrovert who wants to life to the fullest without hinderence. Id say 5'10-5'11 is sufficient. But thats just me right.

The more and more you write the more I realize that you have serious problems, better invest that money into a psychiatrist and some meds. Would help you more.

[Moubgf]

The more and more you write the more I realize that you have serious problems, better invest that money into a psychiatrist and some meds. Would help you more.

Ok whatever you narcissist.Hang tight there with those assumptions. They get you far in life.

Im not the first one trying to cool you down but hey you an angry individual.

[kunta kinte]

5'11 Below average? Where do you live 

I live in an area called Lika in Croatia. the averge height here is about 178-179 if you look at the whole country but you should really see the people here in the dinaric alps, bunch of Brock Lesnar twins I swear.

[Smallguy]

You dont know crap and you are probably of the older generation in that case i cant blame you for your ignorance.

Yeah, you're right.  I don't understand what teenagers are going through these days and just realized that I have very little patients for kids.

I don't mean to disrespect you or put you down. That comment came off in a wrong way. Sorry.

[kunta kinte]

Ok whatever you narcissist.Hang tight there with those assumptions. They get you far in life.

Im not the first one trying to cool you down but hey you an angry individual.

the guy has got in a fight with every member on this forum about how he's cause for doing LL is just but others and their reasons are insecure losers, I dont know what his problem is and I dont care. Just ignore him and share experiences with the rest of the forum members who wont call you any names but instead will offer you support and honest opinions. 

[123]

the guy has got in a fight with every member on this forum about how he's cause for doing LL is just but others and their reasons are insecure losers, I dont know what his problem is and I dont care. Just ignore him and share experiences with the rest of the forum members who wont call you any names but instead will offer you support and honest opinions. 

Not my reasons. I didn't make them up. Go and ask every orthopedic, they will tell you the same, except the guys who make mad money with people like you, which is unethical. 

[endomorphisme]

i read the average is 185.6 cm in the dinaric alps , kunta kinte, and 183 cm in montenegro  
have you ever visited the dinaric alps?Why are the "dinarics" much taller than the national average

[kunta kinte]

i read the average is 185.6 cm in the dinaric alps , kunta kinte, and 183 cm in montenegro  
have you ever visited the dinaric alps?Why are the "dinarics" much taller than the national average

I havent visited, I live there xD

I dont know why are people here taller(girls have bigger boobs also but are not as attractive as "big city" girls).

also, I think that the averages on the internet are dated, I dont know if youve ever been to montenegro, serbia, southern croatia or bosnia for that matter but the people here are huge, not necessarily monster tall( my asumption would be 183 average for all the countrys mentioned when combined) but built like monsters.

[endomorphisme]

I havent visited, I live there xD

I dont know why are people here taller(girls have bigger boobs also but are not as attractive as "big city" girls).

also, I think that the averages on the internet are dated, I dont know if youve ever been to montenegro, serbia, southern croatia or bosnia for that matter but the people here are huge, not necessarily monster tall( my asumption would be 183 average for all the countrys mentioned when combined) but built like monsters.

and how do you feel there, average, below average, short?
I just think it's genetics, for instance in germany the average heigght for 20-30 years old men is 180-181 cm, but in hamburg, people are much taller http://www.menshealth.de/sixcms/media.php/37/Mens_Health_Fettatlas_2008.pdf

[kunta kinte]

and how do you feel there, average, below average, short?
I just think it's genetics, for instance in germany the average heigght for 20-30 years old men is 180-181 cm, but in hamburg, people are much taller http://www.menshealth.de/sixcms/media.php/37/Mens_Health_Fettatlas_2008.pdf

I feel a little below average, only on a few ocasions didi I feel really short. My girlfriend is my height xD

[Ajax2thousand20]

Germanic Europeans (with the exception of England) are generally taller than most people in the world. Many of them were hunters and had fewer children hence they became larger than the Europeans who mostly worked on the farm and were fed corn and other vegetables.
Height is mostly to do with lineage more than genetics if you think about it.

[ReadRothbard]

I live in an area called Lika in Croatia. the averge height here is about 178-179 if you look at the whole country but you should really see the people here in the dinaric alps, bunch of Brock Lesnar twins I swear.

The Dinaric Alps have the tallest people in the world. Men are 6'1 on average.

[kunta kinte]

The Dinaric Alps have the tallest people in the world. Men are 6'1 on average.

Yeah I know, when I was mentioning 178-9 maybe even 180 I was talking about my national average. The dinaric alps take a small amount od croatia's surface.

[ItsMyLife]

nonsense.

coco lee's wife is CEO. he's living the high life. he's top 30 CEO. name is bruce rockowitz.


he's only probably 5'7

im now 5'9 and probably going on to 5'11 or 6' but im just stating the truth

height is not THAT important.

[Moubgf]

nonsense.

coco lee's wife is CEO. he's living the high life. he's top 30 CEO. name is bruce rockowitz.


he's only probably 5'7

im now 5'9 and probably going on to 5'11 or 6' but im just stating the truth

height is not THAT important.

stop contradict yourself. Just say that im right.

[Moubgf]

I live in an area called Lika in Croatia. the averge height here is about 178-179 if you look at the whole country but you should really see the people here in the dinaric alps, bunch of Brock Lesnar twins I swear.

Not in body type? bosnian and crotians etc, are more of ectomorph in structure like my buddy, Long legs & short torso. Mind you that this is the exact body type of brock lesnar. But the balkans are skinny people.

[ReadRothbard]

nonsense.

coco lee's wife is CEO. he's living the high life. he's top 30 CEO. name is bruce rockowitz.


he's only probably 5'7

im now 5'9 and probably going on to 5'11 or 6' but im just stating the truth

height is not THAT important.

I have to slightly disagree; height is important, but being tall isn't that important.

[ForcedPuberty]

the dumbest arguments in the world.

this girl (girl x) is super fuken fat and she is rich and models for plus size women, so who cares if your fat because she (girl x) achieved success.


dumbest argument on the face of the planet.......

height and being fat influence probability. we are increasing height to make probability for an easy life work in our favor.

[ItsMyLife]

my friend says maybe height is not linked directly to job status. he says maybe those taler people have better nutrition means they come from richer families hence they end up with beter jobs or more money. how knows?

[Smallguy]

Well, my ex girlfriend always say that looks doesn't matter. It's what on the inside that counts. And that's what I believe.

You can believe anything you want, even if the world is against you because of your height or the government is after you and people don't like you, etc. Nobody can argue with that. I like to believe that people can look past a person's superficiality and see the inside for what really counts.

If you want someone to be nice to you, treat them with kindness and respect. It worked for me.