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Alittletooshort

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One or two surgeries
« on: December 12, 2014, 09:04:16 AM »

I considering Dr. Leonid Solomin for limb lengthening, but I'm not sure whether I should do one ore two surgeries. I am about 177-179cm tall and I want to be around 186 after LL. I thought about doing 4,5\3,5 Femur\Tibia or 8 in one operation. What do you think when it comes to proportions and athletic performance?
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Re: One or two surgeries
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2014, 09:08:31 AM »

You are at my same height
I suggest yo do in 2 operation
More than 5 cm will change leg function
You will never the same
And the strength of legs are weaker
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Re: One or two surgeries
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2014, 12:26:49 PM »

I would recommend 0 surgeries. Just my advice, do what you want with that.
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Re: One or two surgeries
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2014, 03:36:59 PM »

I think 6+5 is the MOST anyone should do if they are concerned with a healthy recovery. If you're 177CM and aiming for 186CM Maybe you could do 5 femur and 4 tibia?
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Re: One or two surgeries
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2014, 08:31:46 PM »

That's not true. If you lengthen within the elasticity of the muscles (7.6 cm per segment), you'll be fine.
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Re: One or two surgeries
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2014, 09:21:20 PM »

That's not true. If you lengthen within the elasticity of the muscles (7.6 cm per segment), you'll be fine.

Define "fine" your motor function will be impaired and it's unlikely that the muscles will recover completely. It is possible I believe shyshy proved that but I don't think anyone can do 7-8CM I personally wouldn't risk it.

It'll also look weird in many cases (again shyshy being an exception).
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Re: One or two surgeries
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2014, 12:28:38 AM »

Define "fine" your motor function will be impaired and it's unlikely that the muscles will recover completely. It is possible I believe shyshy proved that but I don't think anyone can do 7-8CM I personally wouldn't risk it.

It'll also look weird in many cases (again shyshy being an exception).

Most people were successful in doing 3" but the complication risk is much higher compared to below 5cms and more atheletic ability was lost.
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Re: One or two surgeries
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2014, 12:40:55 AM »

Most people were successful in doing 3" but the complication risk is much higher compared to below 5cms and more atheletic ability was lost.

There is no such thing as "athletic ability lost" if your doc doesn't fk up and the bone is fully healed you will be the same as before LL.
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Re: One or two surgeries
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2014, 02:04:54 AM »

There is no such thing as "athletic ability lost" if your doc doesn't fk up and the bone is fully healed you will be the same as before LL.

EXACTLY! Why don't people get this?
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Re: One or two surgeries
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2014, 02:06:46 AM »

Define "fine" your motor function will be impaired and it's unlikely that the muscles will recover completely. It is possible I believe shyshy proved that but I don't think anyone can do 7-8CM I personally wouldn't risk it.

It'll also look weird in many cases (again shyshy being an exception).

That was that that study that proved patients fully-regain muscular strength within a two-year span of having their external frames removed, and most of those patients had lengthened more than 6 cm (with a few doing past 8 cm). Internals would likely be half of that time.
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172 cm in the morning (67.8"); 170 cm (67”) at night; Sitting Height: 96 cm (37.8”); Goal: 184.5 cm (6'0.7"); Ultimate Goal: 192 cm (6’3.5) morning height, 190 cm (6’3) “night” height
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Re: One or two surgeries
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2014, 12:30:00 PM »

athletic ability can be lost. and it depends on the doctor and patient. over lengthening will destroy your athletic ability! the more you over lengthen the more you will loose.
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Re: One or two surgeries
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2014, 10:47:42 AM »

You are at my same height
I suggest yo do in 2 operation
More than 5 cm will change leg function
You will never the same
And the strength of legs are weaker

Why 2 operations? And how do you know more than 5cm will alter leg function?

Wait, you haven't done LL yet. But at 35, you better off taking an English class or start a family than thinking about LL. Plus you are already above average for Asians... okay, enuff said.

Alittletooshort

1 or 2 operations depend on your current proportion. How is your femur compare to your tibias? Some people start off with very long femur compare to tibias, so it makes perfect sense to lengthen just the tibias. But if your legs are already proportioned as they are, then it is very likely that they will be less proportioned as you lengthen one segment without the other.
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Re: One or two surgeries
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2014, 02:43:18 PM »

Why 2 operations? And how do you know more than 5cm will alter leg function?

Wait, you haven't done LL yet. But at 35, you better off taking an English class or start a family than thinking about LL. Plus you are already above average for Asians... okay, enuff said.

Alittletooshort

1 or 2 operations depend on your current proportion. How is your femur compare to your tibias? Some people start off with very long femur compare to tibias, so it makes perfect sense to lengthen just the tibias. But if your legs are already proportioned as they are, then it is very likely that they will be less proportioned as you lengthen one segment without the other.
Sorry for my english
You discriminate other opinion?
Many people here havent done ll yet
I also respect many opinions and then Analyse
At first my goal is 8 cm on my femur and Uppland who never ll before warn me and then i did more reseached
Then i have read a lot of diaries.
There are posibilities to mess your legs if lengthen over 6 cm
many diaries disappeared ,some were lucky,some not

Now you please enlighten me which method do you use
and how long for post operation till now
and have you do rod removal already?
If rods still in your legs that not mean whole process finish even you can run on your nails there are many posibilities mess after rods romoval

please enlighthen me(please do ,i am no bias)
And my area average around 178-182 cm its upon region

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Re: One or two surgeries
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2014, 04:24:24 PM »

I think that my legs are generally short compared to my upperbody. I don't know how to measure the bones properly, so I can't really say anything about the exact numbers.It seems that my tibias are considerably shorter than my femurs though.
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Re: One or two surgeries
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2014, 04:45:28 PM »

i spoke to russian girl..

they say usually russia lengthens 5 or 6 cm on tibia, not more.....
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Re: One or two surgeries
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2014, 03:59:12 AM »

I think that my legs are generally short compared to my upperbody. I don't know how to measure the bones properly, so I can't really say anything about the exact numbers.It seems that my tibias are considerably shorter than my femurs though.

If you just go for 1 surgery, go for tibias because it's cheap. But if you lengthen one segment too much than you may need to lengthen the other segment to make your whole lower body look proportionate.

Now you please enlighten me which method do you use
and how long for post operation till now
and have you do rod removal already?
If rods still in your legs that not mean whole process finish even you can run on your nails there are many posibilities mess after rods romoval

I still have the rod but can easily run, jump and press 300b at my gym. It makes no difference. I'm just busy before so didn't have time to focus on this or on recovery. The doctor can perform the surgery for you but the bulk of your recovery relies on your individual self. I plan on taking it out the rod at a local hospital next year.

My best advice for recovery is by doing resistant training. I've been doing cardio for 12 months and have eventually become the most endurance guy at my gym. I can run faster and longer than anyone there. But just last month I switched to resistant training. Start pressing weights and squat. Now I can feel a tremendous improvement in dexterity and control in my movement. I take the public transit every day now and can walk down the steps at the same pace as everyone else. I feel very confident going up the steps.

Good-luck with your LL.
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Re: One or two surgeries
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2014, 06:09:11 AM »

If you just go for 1 surgery, go for tibias because it's cheap. But if you lengthen one segment too much than you may need to lengthen the other segment to make your whole lower body look proportionate.

I still have the rod but can easily run, jump and press 300b at my gym. It makes no difference. I'm just busy before so didn't have time to focus on this or on recovery. The doctor can perform the surgery for you but the bulk of your recovery relies on your individual self. I plan on taking it out the rod at a local hospital next year.

My best advice for recovery is by doing resistant training. I've been doing cardio for 12 months and have eventually become the most endurance guy at my gym. I can run faster and longer than anyone there. But just last month I switched to resistant training. Start pressing weights and squat. Now I can feel a tremendous improvement in dexterity and control in my movement. I take the public transit every day now and can walk down the steps at the same pace as everyone else. I feel very confident going up the steps.

Good-luck with your LL.

How's your Squat post-ll? I'm a powerlifter, so this is important to me.
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Re: One or two surgeries
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2014, 07:19:13 AM »

I measured my wingspan and it's a about 184/185 cm, which is slightly longer than average I assume. So can I lengthen up to 186-187 without having a weird leg-arm ratio?
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Re: One or two surgeries
« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2014, 08:39:24 AM »

I measured my wingspan and it's a about 184/185 cm, which is slightly longer than average I assume. So can I lengthen up to 186-187 without having a weird leg-arm ratio?
Good wingspan
Now if you had long torso it would be fine proportion
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Re: One or two surgeries
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2014, 11:35:35 AM »

I do have a rather long torso, my tibiae are pretty short so I could easily do 4-5cm on them. The only thing is that I want to get it done in 2-3 months because I can´t miss out a semester on university. Is this a realistic goal? I´m not talking about a complete recovery, I just want to be able to walk on crutches. For how long will I have to wear the external fixator If I lenghten for 4-5 cms on my tibiae?
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Re: One or two surgeries
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2014, 01:13:24 PM »

I do have a rather long torso, my tibiae are pretty short so I could easily do 4-5cm on them. The only thing is that I want to get it done in 2-3 months because I can´t miss out a semester on university. Is this a realistic goal? I´m not talking about a complete recovery, I just want to be able to walk on crutches. For how long will I have to wear the external fixator If I lenghten for 4-5 cms on my tibiae?
I have never lengthened yet,but from others experience it should be 3 months for distraction phase and 75 days for consolidation phase(15 days/cm) .imo you must use 5-6 months
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