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[Medium Drink Of Water]

Problems can be fixed, especially if you know what's causing them and how to do it.  It's obvious what's wrong with Disobedient's legs.  When she gets the money to go to a competent doctor he'll be able to fix her misalignment.  I don't think she had aspirations to be a world-class athlete after LL anyway.

[Sweden]

Not everything can be fixed. A stretched out ligament can ache for the rest of the patients life. Upcoming surgeries to "fix things" can be devastating.

Sure, if you only settle with walking then fine, go ahead and destroy yourself.
Sometimes you just need to run. To the bus/train/airplane or for your life.

[Medium Drink Of Water]

Diso didn't really lengthen that much.  She could easily do more without stretching her ligaments to the point where they'd be painful for life.  I think if she goes to a competent doctor in another country instead of continuing to go bargain shopping amongst the dregs of LL doctors in India she'll be fine.

Whether she runs again is up to her and how she handles herself going forward with treatment.

[BullSurfer]

What's done is done. One can never make right decisions all the time. Just count our lucky stars and hope for the best.

Advice for future LLers.  You must have strong family support, money and time. Do not go into LL halfassed thinking you'll be alright in 3 months.  The best scenario is 7 months to a year for 3 inches or less gain.

[Blackhawk]

Sweden the point people are trying to make is that your comments don't do any good after the fact.

Not everything can be fixed.

This is true.  Your mental issues probably can't be fixed.

You are both idiots.

Have you read your comments?  You're usually either being rude to people or acting like a baby.

Can we see a video of you running?

[Sweden]

Sweden the point people are trying to make is that your comments don't do any good after the fact.

This is true.  Your mental issues probably can't be fixed.

Have you read your comments?  You're usually either being rude to people or acting like a baby.

Can we see a video of you running?

Then you clearly haven't read many of my comments.

I'll do a video this week.
It won't look good.

[TRS]

Diso, keep your head up and stay positive and I guarantee you will prove Sweden wrong Keep us updated since most of us are here to support you during your hard times!

[Patton_Lee]

Then you clearly haven't read many of my comments.

I'll do a video this week.
It won't look good.

You are an a**hole dips**t sc*mbag.
Now read my rest of comments to see how much I have contributed.

Refrain from personal attacks and posts void of any content or information...
"You are stupid" kind of comment shows kind of anger you have, please channelize that anger to achieve something great (if you are already great, try being legend), rather than directing at people here,
IT IS NOT HELPFUL and nobody wants that! So keep that to yourself.

I have made my point.

[Sweden]

You are an a**hole dips**t sc*mbag.
Now read my rest of comments to see how much I have contributed.

Refrain from personal attacks and posts void of any content or information...
"You are stupid" kind of comment shows kind of anger you have, please channelize that anger to achieve something great (if you are already great, try being legend), rather than directing at people here,
IT IS NOT HELPFUL and nobody wants that! So keep that to yourself.

I have made my point.

The name calling shows the level of your intellect my cro magnon friend.

It is a great shame if people would copy Diso to do 10cm fast.

[Patton_Lee]

The name calling shows the level of your intellect my cro magnon friend.

It is a great shame if people would copy Diso to do 10cm fast.

OMG this is insane. First you wrote -

You are both idiots.

And when people said you shouldn't do it, your reply was -

Then you clearly haven't read many of my comments.
I'll do a video this week.

So I just pointed out your bad logic by saying -

You are an a**hole dips**t sc*mbag.
Now read my rest of comments to see how much I have contributed.
.
.
I have made my point.

Clearly you didn't got the message. You were the one who called others idiots. Whatever name calling I used was just for sake of example. I don't mean any of it.

[Disobedient]

What  happened  here  ...?





so I met Dr. naveen as I had an appointment with him today at 11:30 am

-what is the hospital (ROCKLAND) looks like?

crowded, don't like the building that much.. kindda small if I'll compare it to forti

- The cost?

I thought they'll charge me more since I'm international patient, but actually they didn't I pay 2800 for both consultation (1000INR) and x-ray , it's cheap

- staff and service?

well cant judge but I took long time to see dr naveen although my appointment was in 11:30am, the staff not friendly as in nova or forti.. and I'm not saying they're not friendly too..

-The meeting 

so I met Dr. Naveen (and another dr)  and he asked some questions ... and  he was totally shocked to knw that I had LL from 7 months ago .. not just because of the formation of my bone which it seems to be weak but also because Rah didn't advised me to stand and walk til now..  he said ( Dr. Naveen) monorail is weight bearing you can walk..

so he asked me to have new x-ray.. so I did, and based on the new x-ray he said the tibia is fine so start "dynamisation" , and I asked if I'll lose sm mm , he said no you'll not...
he said I should start walk/stand from now on and for 3 weeks more.. then come to meet him again..


- internal nail for the femur

he was against it, as he explained it's too late, and I SHOULDN'T do it now, since it wont be useful at all..

 
- Knee bending

he said I have to remove the fixator first, then start pt for my knee, since the pin is what prevent me to bend my knee (as he said)


-x-leg and alignment

according to him I have to stand first then he'll see about the x-leg..

- removing the fixator

 2-3months


when I finished and on my way to the car I found him speaking with another doctor in Hindi ( but from what I understood he was kindda surprised that I had quad LL ).. then the other Dr came to check on my legs , they tried to help me to get in the car but I told them I can do that By myself ..
so he (dr.naveen ) told me to call him anytime .. (he forgot to give me his phone though.. )..


I'll post the x-ray when I'll receive it (I asked them to email it to me ) ..

[Blackhawk]

Hey Diso,

Sorry about some of the posts in your diary.

Although I like Sweden, I just got tired of him posting the same bull  here about how you "wrecked your life" and "you'll never walk again".

2 to 3 months isn't bad.  You'll be walking fine soon

How are you feeling?

[KiloKAHN]

Good news about the 2-3 months for fixator removal. It looks like there is some light at the end of the tunnel.

Aside from the state of the hospital compared to Fortis group, what did you think of Dr Talwar in terms of kindness and level of knowledge? Also, did you catch the name of the other doctor? Was it Dr Gurdeep Singh Ratra?

[Disobedient]

Blackhawk

no worry, actually the more he posts such a comments , the more I become so focused to  get better and recover soon just proof him that he is wrong ..

2-3 months for indian doc means 4-6 .. in either way I think I still can stand the fixators 

Kilokahn


yes indeed , his name is Dr Gurdeep Singh Ratra, this is his picture,





both of Dr Gurdeep and Naveen were so kind to me, and will answer all questions you have, as I said before dr naveen told me to call him whenever I have question or problem "although I'm not his patient and I just came for 2nd medical advice"..

about his knowledge .. hmmm.. he didn't talk about his previous/current patients,, and all what he said  I heard it before from other ortho doc in forti and Apolo hospital..
and actually both of the doctors (naveen and Gurdeep) seems to have same level of knowledge, but I don't know about their surgical skills

[Medium Drink Of Water]

None of these doctors you're going to seem concerned about the misalignment of your femurs.  I wish you'd go somewhere like Beijing for a consultation because it looks quite bad in the x-ray.

[Disobedient]

None of these doctors you're going to seem concerned about the misalignment of your femurs.  I wish you'd go somewhere like Beijing for a consultation because it looks quite bad in the x-ray.

 I don't think I can do anything about it right now
Dr.Guichet as an example,  told me to do nothing about it and wait til my bone consolidate and remove the fixator ..

[KiloKAHN]

I don't think I can do anything about it right now
Dr.Guichet as an example,  told me to do nothing about it and wait til my bone consolidate and remove the fixator ..

Dr Parihar told Shorty the same thing when he sent his x-ray right? Basically that surgery at the moment carries risks and he has to wait for his bone to heal. Shorty seems to have the same misalignment issue.

[Medium Drink Of Water]

Okay, I guess waiting is all you can do at this point.  Hope you stay strong and positive while you wait. 

[Leonardo2013]

Diso,

I've been researching some articles online (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bangalore/More-going-in-for-grow-taller-surgery/articleshow/6862429.cms?referral=PM) and reading some Indian diaries on the old forum and I'm planning on visiting Bangalore soon and checking out Sparsh and Hosmat hospitals. Have you heard of these by any chance? Any thoughts on Bangalore over New Delhi? Thank you.

[Disobedient]

Hi leo

Never heard of them.. the only one that I remember I contact them is http://www.bangalorepediatricortho.com/servicesmore.html
and I don't even think I got reply from them ..

But why don't you go to Dr. Mangal Parihar ..?

[KiloKAHN]

Sparsh has Dr Tejwani and Dr Patil. They do external only. The only LON patient they had resulted in a non-union and they stopped offering it afterward.

[Leonardo2013]

The patient was a vegan and this delayed his healing. But he recovered afterwards and posted on old forum videos of him walking and dancing, etc. I just want 5 or 6cm and external-only works fine for me.

[Disobedient]

Ok so this is my last x-ray
as you can see there is little improvement in the callus.. but it is still so weak in the femur..

[crimsontide]

good luck disobedient

[Orlando]

Are you considering to do nail or plating? 

I hate to say this after looking at that xray, it looks like you need at least a few more months (3-6) for it to consolidate enough for removing the monorails.  You'll get better estimation from the Doctors of course.

[Leonardo2013]

I agree that Disobidient was very stubborn and wanted to get her way, but let's respect everyone's choices even if they are not the smartest or don't seem to agree with everyone else. The milk is already spilled now there's no way to go back but to figure out how to clean the mess.

[TRS]

I agree, this diary should be an eye opener but instead of tormenting, disrespecting and calling her names, why not encourage her now! At the end of the day she is still human and prone to make mistakes like all of us here! She needs our support and we should at least respect her for continuing her diary even when faced with negativity from LL Forum members.   

[KrP1]

Stop talking  . She is a person that needs our support. Not to be humillated . Some coments remains me people that like to humillate short persons for their height. These things that some ones are telling her hurt a lot and it shows that some ones are bad persons. This forum must be to help people not to insult them

[Muse]

I have removed Adriano post and he is warned about this first, given the benefit of the doubt.  Repeating it again will led to a short term ban. 

You can talk about this risk or advise about that complication, but it's very clear when the line is crossed.  It's no longer advising out of goodwill saying things like "Play with fire and you will get burn".

Even if you don't agree with her decision, what's done is done even if it was a questionable decision.   

As a fellow LLer,  help her recovery with medical information and emotional support.  If you were in the same situation in a foreign country, you would want this support.

We are going to enforce this for all diaries/journals.  If the intention of posting is to put down or ridicule somebody sharing their experience about doing LL,  forget about it.   

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=37.0

[Claude]

Hi Diso, hope everything is good. Well the calus is not great in my opinion and the alignment needs to be fixed. But its just a matter or time. I admire your strength by the way.

[Sweden]

Dear mother of god. 

That thing will probably give you life long problems. I really hope not.

I will send you $100 if you ever can show us that you're running close to normal.