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Is it worth getting double LL at 5'6 or is one LL enough?
« on: January 10, 2024, 07:23:22 AM »

I'm considering femur LL to go from 5'6 to 5'9. Is it worth considering another LL on tibias to go from 5'9 to 5'11 barefoot potentially? Is it diminishing returns at this point, or is 5'11 and 5'9 two different realities for a man? Are the benefits of being 5'11 worth the cost, pain, and downtime of another surgery? I personally feel like at 5'11 barefoot, I wouldn't struggle with my height again in life, but at 5'9, I'm not sure.
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Re: Is it worth getting double LL at 5'6 or is one LL enough?
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2024, 07:39:32 AM »

I'm considering femur LL to go from 5'6 to 5'9. Is it worth considering another LL on tibias to go from 5'9 to 5'11 barefoot potentially? Is it diminishing returns at this point, or is 5'11 and 5'9 two different realities for a man? Are the benefits of being 5'11 worth the cost, pain, and downtime of another surgery? I personally feel like at 5'11 barefoot, I wouldn't struggle with my height again in life, but at 5'9, I'm not sure.

I think 5'9" to 5'11" is pretty much what I did. Whilst it improves height dysphoria the additional risk of a second surgery isn't negligible. In fact if someone asked me if just one surgery to go from 5'9" to 5'11" is worth it, I would be very hesitant to recommend it. The toll it takes on your body is big, as are the risks, but it's only something you learn to appreciate once you see that height, after all, is not so super important.

If you absolutely want 5'11" then consider Betzbone. Depending on how things go for you during lengthening you may be able to do more than 3 inches. Though that is also something I am personally personally sceptical of, there seem to be many positive outcomes lately.
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Re: Is it worth getting double LL at 5'6 or is one LL enough?
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2024, 11:08:11 AM »

For 90% of the cases a solid 5.9 will be completely ok so you won't need any other LL.
If money is not a problem at all though then I would have done another 5cm to reach 5.11 and considered on the tall side, but only if you are a millionaire or something.
I was 5.65 and now 5.95 (morning heights) and I feel ok with my height but if I had plenty of money I may have done 2,5 inches on femurs too. But I don't have at least a million in my bank so it doesn't worth it as you can do.much better things with 50-60k euros if.you are already above 5.8-5.9.
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Re: Is it worth getting double LL at 5'6 or is one LL enough?
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2024, 11:14:41 AM »

from 5'6 to 5'85 is pretty life changing already. like the guy say if u r a millionaire having 2 surgeries to get to 5'11 is pretty nice. take a yr off from work to recover.
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Re: Is it worth getting double LL at 5'6 or is one LL enough?
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2024, 01:40:30 PM »

I'm considering femur LL to go from 5'6 to 5'9. Is it worth considering another LL on tibias to go from 5'9 to 5'11 barefoot potentially? Is it diminishing returns at this point, or is 5'11 and 5'9 two different realities for a man? Are the benefits of being 5'11 worth the cost, pain, and downtime of another surgery? I personally feel like at 5'11 barefoot, I wouldn't struggle with my height again in life, but at 5'9, I'm not sure.
Completely worth it. I'm also slightly over 5'6, and I personally think between 5'8 to soft 5'10 is the ideal average male height range. You'll look good in a lot of clothes, and if you bodybuild, you won't look like a manlet. If you're also slightly above 5'6, like 168~169, getting max femurs of 8cm, you're practically hard 5'9 and faux 5'10 and usually the difference is negligible for most people on day to day unless you have them stand still side by side barefoot.

Going 5'11 will depend on your dysphoria, although it's usually the height some men can lie and say they're 6'. My suggestion is go femur lengthening first, and see if you still struggle with your dysphoria. It's how I plan on mine but just from wearing insoles and standing next to guys at that height in the gym, I genuinely think 5'9 is very good already. You wouldn't want to do quad lengthening anyways in 1 sitting, it's a lot riskier and has a harder time of recovery.
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Re: Is it worth getting double LL at 5'6 or is one LL enough?
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2024, 03:29:22 PM »

I'm considering femur LL to go from 5'6 to 5'9. Is it worth considering another LL on tibias to go from 5'9 to 5'11 barefoot potentially? Is it diminishing returns at this point, or is 5'11 and 5'9 two different realities for a man? Are the benefits of being 5'11 worth the cost, pain, and downtime of another surgery? I personally feel like at 5'11 barefoot, I wouldn't struggle with my height again in life, but at 5'9, I'm not sure.

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Re: Is it worth getting double LL at 5'6 or is one LL enough?
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2024, 04:20:34 PM »

I would sacrifice so many things to be taller but being reasonably athletic is not one of them
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Re: Is it worth getting double LL at 5'6 or is one LL enough?
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2024, 05:33:28 PM »

5’9 is a good height you would fall in the average height and it is very noticeable specially if you do the 3 inches. I only did 2” due to extremely tight hamstrings but I’m very happy. I’m around 5’9 1/2
and as I got around the house I can tell objects were slight lower. I fit into my 30L x 32W clothes perfectly, you can reach most high items because this world is built for the average man. My bone recovery has been extremely fast which was a con during distraction because my soft tissue wasn’t keeping up but if you have any questions you can PM me. I forgot to mentioned my rom is already where it was at prior to surgery with the exception of the hamstring area which still needs work but considering I’m not even a month into consolidation, I feel like I would be back where I was at before with more flexibility due to the amount of stretching I do now.
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Re: Is it worth getting double LL at 5'6 or is one LL enough?
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2024, 07:18:26 PM »

Complete the first LL before worrying about a second one.
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Re: Is it worth getting double LL at 5'6 or is one LL enough?
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2024, 06:54:10 AM »

LL is a means to an end, realize what your end goal is accordingly.

If you're doing LL to become more attractive, then once you get to 5'9, there are other interventions that have a far greater ROI than getting another LL procedure.

I would say, stay within your proportions even if that means stopping at 5'10/5'9, as you will still have the upper body/torso of a 5'6 person. Realistically, the best results are the ones that are the most seamless.
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Re: Is it worth getting double LL at 5'6 or is one LL enough?
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2024, 01:52:28 PM »

Everyone here has given you great biological and scientific reasons to decide your choice for either single or double bone lengthening, so i feel like it’s best to ask if double lengthening and becoming 6 foot is something you really want in the one and only life your gonna have. Putting all the complications and time aside, ask yourself do you really value becoming taller, stronger or more attractive rather than just living a normal life? This is something you need to think to yourself about since 99.99% of patients on this forum will without hesitation demand you to get it done and to go as far as you can because to us we value the quality of our life even if it’s cut short rather then the quantity of time we have. If you share that same mindset then you can make a good decision
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Re: Is it worth getting double LL at 5'6 or is one LL enough?
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2024, 05:26:15 AM »

Depending where you live 5'9" is pretty average or even short. 5'11"(180cms) is average or tall in every country on earth. Conscription data shows that the average height in most rich European countries(Denmark, Norway, Switzerland) is 179cms, there are countries which are possibly taller such as the Netherlands(183 in small samples, they have no studies with large sample) but you would still be inside the standard distribution(around 5cms) there at 180cm.
But, consider time. Each LL will put you away from fully enjoying life for at least 1 year and possibly 2. If you're really young like 18 it might not matter much but if you're older you may not find it worthwhile to lose the prime of your life walking around in crutches.
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Re: Is it worth getting double LL at 5'6 or is one LL enough?
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2024, 08:06:09 AM »

Depending where you live 5'9" is pretty average or even short. 5'11"(180cms) is average or tall in every country on earth. Conscription data shows that the average height in most rich European countries(Denmark, Norway, Switzerland) is 179cms, there are countries which are possibly taller such as the Netherlands(183 in small samples, they have no studies with large sample) but you would still be inside the standard distribution(around 5cms) there at 180cm.
But, consider time. Each LL will put you away from fully enjoying life for at least 1 year and possibly 2. If you're really young like 18 it might not matter much but if you're older you may not find it worthwhile to lose the prime of your life walking around in crutches.

well the guy is 5'6 pretty short in the US. might be missing out on things. then he has to save up as much money as possible and knowing thats pretty hard to save 50k when your 25 yo. when your main focus is finishing college. after achieving 5'8 and some shoes  on. the life starts changing in different ways. only depends on you if u want to make sacrifices on change.
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Re: Is it worth getting double LL at 5'6 or is one LL enough?
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2024, 01:28:10 PM »

well the guy is 5'6 pretty short in the US. might be missing out on things. then he has to save up as much money as possible and knowing thats pretty hard to save 50k when your 25 yo. when your main focus is finishing college. after achieving 5'8 and some shoes  on. the life starts changing in different ways. only depends on you if u want to make sacrifices on change.

Yeah, it might be worth it to do it ASAP with a cheaper (but still safe) surgeon so you can enjoy life sooner. Instead of spending years saving up money so you can finally do double LL with Paley at 35.
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Re: Is it worth getting double LL at 5'6 or is one LL enough?
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2024, 03:00:30 PM »

Yeah, it might be worth it to do it ASAP with a cheaper (but still safe) surgeon so you can enjoy life sooner. Instead of spending years saving up money so you can finally do double LL with Paley at 35.
Even if someone can spend quad for Paley, that's still a high risk anyways. The recovery effort from quad LL really will take a toll on you, that you might as well have done it separately. You save like what, 1 year or so from recovery at a much higher risk.
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If OP is still reading, like most people suggest here, do it one at a time, and if the first lengthening still doesn't satisfy, decide then whether or not it's worth doing another one, all through that effort once more. Personally, unless you live in some parts of Europe, and are constantly bombarded by tall people, I genuinely think if you're part of the 5'8+ gang and still think you're having body dysmorphia, you might have other personal issues you need to settle, maybe some other aspect of your physical appearance. Most people here always think about it from a dating standpoint, which I get it, it's one reason to do it. But if you ever have to encounter a woman who's shallow as fk to think 6' and above only, then I say you just avoided a huge red flag there and prevented you from dating a shallow woman right there that might have other parts of her personality being terrible. Maybe it's time to expand your dating pool other than bimbos and sluts.

So you have to ask yourself, why do you want to be 6'+ in the first place to even worth considering the amount of money spent and years wasted? Going from real short to average is always worth it and the benefits do come more obvious, but going avg to slightly on the tall side, there do seem to be diminishing returns. Sure you're tall, but other than that most people don't care on a day-to-day basis, other than you being complimented from time to time. There are some statistics in career being more successful, but honestly having worked in a Fortune 500 company, I've literally been under two directors who are flat 5' and 5'4 respectively, both whom are quite successful in their careers and financially speaking. So maybe don't work in sh*t  places to actually get somewhere.
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Ideal goal: (178cm~180cm) 5'10~5'11 with two separate bilateral(femur+tibia) lengthening / (183cm) 6' at max safe goal
Normal goal: (176cm) 5'9 with femur lengthening
Minimum goal: (173.5cm) 5'8 with femur/tibia lengthening

Plan in 2025~2026 when Precice Max comes and has some good outcomes.
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