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[oklama]

first, I apologize for posting so much, but CLL has also become somewhat of a hobby for me. I find the surgery and everything surrounding it including the social factors and amount of different opinions very interesting. I feel very at home here, it feels like we are all part of a club who know some forbidden knowledge.


Personally I think CLL will become a much more acceptable surgery socially in the next probably 8 years. Today I saw a post about Lil Uzi Vert and people were saying he could become tall if he wanted too, not only does this show high public awareness of the surgery, it also seemed not derogatory. There is still the misconception that you get crippled of course, but do you blame people for hearing about this and thinking it might be dangerous?

All it will take is for one famous person to get this procedure (or get discovered, maybe there already has been) and it will be a true litmus test for if society is ready for this or not.

There is no doubt in my mind that getting CLL is a cut and dry, morally okay and in some cases CORRECT thing to do if you are a short male. Its not different from the many cosmetic plastic surgeries women do, and has debatably more benefits. So the world just has to get over it at some point. A lot of people don't want to accept that being a short male is just a straight up disadvantage because it conflicts heavily with their overly-sweet world view.

Heightism has been brought to higher awareness by the rise of online dating and probably other factors, I even heard the term used in real life about a week ago. Of course there are still deniers but thats how it's going to be.

I plan to hide my surgery(s) completely, but I hope for the next CLL generation... they will face no shame.

When do you all think CLL will be recognized as a not necessarily normal, but not ridiculous thing?

[1team]

I will never understand short to very short men wanting LL to be mainstream. OP i'll be blunt you are 165cm, if this surgery becomes accepted in the future you be dominated into the dirt by your taller peers getting this done and end up back at square one.

That this surgery is considered embarrassing and not accepted mainstream saves you.

The last thing you should want is mahoubian and depiparshad sharing tiktoks making this mainstream.

[oklama]

I will never understand short to very short men wanting LL to be mainstream. OP i'll be blunt you are 165cm, if this surgery becomes accepted in the future you be dominated into the dirt by your taller peers getting this done and end up back at square one.

That this surgery is considered embarrassing and not accepted mainstream saves you.

The last thing you should want is mahoubian and depiparshad sharing tiktoks making this mainstream.

I dont mean mainstream as in everyone wants to do it, frankly if your doing this above 173 your mentally ill (this includes me if I do tibs aswell) and I dont think most people would want to do it even if they are my height.
I meant mainstream as in understood and not shunned upon.
I agree this surgery should remain done by very few who deem it necessary.
it would be likely net good for us if it remained how it is now but I dont think it will stay that way.

I wonder what percentage of people short (below 1sd in height) would actually consider to do this if properly educated. Obviously this surgery is known by a decent portion of people now, but this forum has not many members, and while the general community is larger than that, it's probably not more than a factor of 100. 36,653,770 people is how many people this community would have if every American man 5'7 or below wanted this surgery. so its truly gotta be a small few of us who care this much to have this done.