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onlywantafewcmmore

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Will this ever be an easy surgery?
« on: June 01, 2021, 03:08:32 AM »

After reading up on LL, reading patient experiences etc, I know this surgery is a massive undertaking in pretty much all aspects. Do you guys think this will ever be an easy or easier surgery? Maybe Stryde will come back at 1/3rd of the price and be 5 times better. Or maybe that prolixo nail will be released and turn LL into a routine surgery.
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Re: Will this ever be an easy surgery?
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2021, 03:11:33 AM »

Not as long as it remains distraction osteogenesis as regardless of nail or method you still have to break the bones and extend the soft tissues unnaturally for a long period of time. Possibly if they figure out a way to allow small lengthening rates (less than 0.5mm per day) while delaying bone growth to avoid preconsolidation.
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Re: Will this ever be an easy surgery?
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2021, 06:26:24 AM »

After reading up on LL, reading patient experiences etc, I know this surgery is a massive undertaking in pretty much all aspects. Do you guys think this will ever be an easy or easier surgery? Maybe Stryde will come back at 1/3rd of the price and be 5 times better. Or maybe that prolixo nail will be released and turn LL into a routine surgery.

LL will never be a routine surgery, it is brutal. Especially with externals, but even with internals you have to break your legs, be immobile and unable to work, and pay a large sum of money, very few people will take that endeavor to get taller. Even if stryde was half the price it is now, slightly more people would do it but it’s not like society would come flocking, I didn’t realize I was insane until I am actually going through the procedure and I realize how actually crazy I am for this
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onlywantafewcmmore

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Re: Will this ever be an easy surgery?
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2021, 11:27:33 AM »

What is considered the easiest way to do this surgery in terms of recovery/pain? - internal/external, load bearing, LON, Stryde etc?
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Re: Will this ever be an easy surgery?
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2021, 11:41:20 AM »

What is considered the easiest way to do this surgery in terms of recovery/pain? - internal/external, load bearing, LON, Stryde etc?

Stryde. But the price will never go down like people think it will, that is a stupid assumption. It may go down but not more than 1/3 in my opinion in first world countries. As of now, when stryde comes back I assume one day it will be possible to have it down for like 40k,

Many people don’t have even 5-10k saved up. It took me about 4 years to save up 80-85k. Even people that make 6 figures have expenses and especially people with children it will be very difficult to have this done
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If considering external femurs please change your mind

onlywantafewcmmore

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Re: Will this ever be an easy surgery?
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2021, 08:43:31 PM »

Might be stupid question, but when people talk about internal/external, tibia/femur, does this matter when doing Stryde? And if so, which ones are considered the "easiest" to do.
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Re: Will this ever be an easy surgery?
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2021, 11:24:14 PM »

Not as long as it remains distraction osteogenesis as regardless of nail or method you still have to break the bones and extend the soft tissues unnaturally for a long period of time. Possibly if they figure out a way to allow small lengthening rates (less than 0.5mm per day) while delaying bone growth to avoid preconsolidation.

Yup, if they found a way to allow us to lengthen very slowly without preconsolidation, then this experience would be similar to puberty (except the bone breaking part). Your tissues will grow at a natural rate similar to how it does during puberty. Legs would still be sore and there would still be initial pain from the surgery, but the lengthening process would be much more manageable (and also longer to be fair). Most realistic option would be with a fully weight bearing nail.
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onlywantafewcmmore

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Re: Will this ever be an easy surgery?
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2021, 12:27:34 AM »

How would a full weight bearing nail change things?
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Re: Will this ever be an easy surgery?
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2021, 01:35:30 AM »

You won't be bed-ridden
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Re: Will this ever be an easy surgery?
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2021, 05:15:47 AM »

How would a full weight bearing nail change things?

You would be able to walk around to speed up your recovery.

For the lengthening itself it doesn't make much difference, that is more about speed. Also I believe internals are superior because there won't be pins sticking through your soft tissues during lengthening, but I don't think it makes a big difference overall in terms of recovery.
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Re: Will this ever be an easy surgery?
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2021, 11:11:39 AM »

You would be able to walk around to speed up your recovery.

Or to increase the chance of breaking the nails. ;D
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Re: Will this ever be an easy surgery?
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2021, 04:04:23 AM »

Well that's the point of having full weight bearing nails, so they don't break from you simply walking around.

I've read even Stryde has it's limitations so ideally something better than Stryde even.
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Re: Will this ever be an easy surgery?
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2021, 04:20:41 PM »

Bone lengthening is a third-grade operation



There are usually four levels of surgery.



First-level surgery: all kinds of operations with low technical difficulty, simple operation procedure and low risk.

Secondary surgery: all kinds of operations with general technical difficulty, uncomplicated operation process and medium risk.

Third-level surgery: a variety of operations with greater technical difficulty, more complex surgical process and greater risk.

Level 4 surgery: all kinds of surgery with great technical difficulty, complex operation process and high risk.

Inverted jaw correction  It's a level 4 procedure, more threatening than bone lengthening.
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Re: Will this ever be an easy surgery?
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2021, 10:32:10 PM »

As there is not a gene therapy or something like that to become taller and you still need to break your bones, this operation will never get easy.

That said, if someone is determined to become taller and change his life, LL is not that hard.
I did externals with monorails, I wasn't walking at all for 3-4 months, I did atl and another shortening surgery to fix that crap that my first doctor did with my tendons and still I would easily have done all these again if somehow I would lost my added height.

LL is not a boobjob but still is not that hard compared to how lifechanging it is.
At least for me.
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Re: Will this ever be an easy surgery?
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2021, 10:45:41 AM »

After reading up on LL, reading patient experiences etc, I know this surgery is a massive undertaking in pretty much all aspects. Do you guys think this will ever be an easy or easier surgery? Maybe Stryde will come back at 1/3rd of the price and be 5 times better. Or maybe that prolixo nail will be released and turn LL into a routine surgery.
probly 30years from now they'll figure it out how to make this surgery even less invasive with smaller and stronger nail. Being short for like is a big fk NO for me so whatever it takes
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Re: Will this ever be an easy surgery?
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2021, 06:30:28 PM »

Dude come on you're not even short, you're taller than like 95% of women what's the point
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Re: Will this ever be an easy surgery?
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2021, 07:00:44 PM »

@Perfectbody said it best, any diary that doesn't constantly mention how excruciatingly painful this surgery is, is a fake diary...
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