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[Ronman]

Hi guys, I'm new here. 31 year old from Australia.

Doing some research on LL with a view to get it in 5 years or so- I have many other things to work on besides height.

I wanted to get some opinions on how abnormally short my femur is. Here are my measurements:

Height: 172-173cm
Femur: ~41cm
Tibia: ~38cm

In the picture attached, the camera lens is at upper chest level:

https://ibb.co/tmnJxrt

After watching some Cyborg4life videos, I realise my tibia/femur ratio is very abnormal, and that this could cause joint/arthritic problems in the future. I already have slight knee pain when I do leg exercises.

My question is: would LL of 5-6cm to the femur actually be BENEFICIAL for my long term health?

My ratio would then be ~ 0.80 which is very healthy.

Would love to hear some general thoughts from you guys.
Thanks.

[SkyHigh77]

To me, you look kind of look tall in the first place. Your tibias are long. I have an LLD and Knee problems so I have issues to fix in addition of LL.
My advice would to talk to doctors about this and not really this forum. No one can determine if that would be 'better' for your health. You may gain benefits in one area but it could hinder or decrease other areas. Only doctors with actual case studies and science can determine that for you. Also having a more proportional ratio doesn't always equal healthy or avoid problems. (Plenty of doctors I talked to assured me of that)
Alot of so called 'experts' on here have no medical background or knowledge besides what they read online to truly give a safe answer.
Email some doctors this. Best luck

[Ronman]

Thanks for the speedy reply mate.

Yes everyone always says that, that I look tall. My posture is probably pretty bad so I may well be 174-175cm with a straight spine. Hardly a big need to get LL.

Thanks for the info regarding proportions and health. I guess I will see how my knees progress into my mid 30s. My mum has very short femur too and she has had arthritis for a while.

I will keep doing my research.

To me, you look kind of look tall in the first place. Your tibias are long. I have an LLD and Knee problems so I have issues to fix in addition of LL.
My advice would to talk to doctors about this and not really this forum. No one can determine if that would be 'better' for your health. You may gain benefits in one area but it could hinder or decrease other areas. Only doctors with actual case studies and science can determine that for you. Also having a more proportional ratio doesn't always equal healthy or avoid problems. (Plenty of doctors I talked to assured me of that)
Alot of so called 'experts' on here have no medical background or knowledge besides what they read online to truly give a safe answer.
Email some doctors this. Best luck

[Ronman]

Here are some images at eye level

https://ibb.co/Fnv4PWv
https://ibb.co/X3hFp8q

[BelowTheMean]

FYI, your actual tibia:femur ratio is probably different than what you measured, and you won't know what the actual ratio is until you get x-rays from a professional. My self-measured tibia:femur ratio was way off compared to what the doctor measured with x-rays. I would be very surprised if your true tibia:femur ratio was anywhere near 0.9

[Ronman]

FYI, your actual tibia:femur ratio is probably different than what you measured, and you won't know what the actual ratio is until you get x-rays from a professional. My self-measured tibia:femur ratio was way off compared to what the doctor measured with x-rays. I would be very surprised if your true tibia:femur ratio was anywhere near 0.9

That's heartening to hear.
I've been wearing lifts and height shoes the last few months, and after 'measuring' my ratios I was worried that they must look so ridiculous, if my femur is that short.

I am still at the very beginning of looking into LL, I will do years and years of research and inquiry before I even consider it.

[Stryde2021]

FYI, your actual tibia:femur ratio is probably different than what you measured, and you won't know what the actual ratio is until you get x-rays from a professional. My self-measured tibia:femur ratio was way off compared to what the doctor measured with x-rays. I would be very surprised if your true tibia:femur ratio was anywhere near 0.9

This^.  The only way to know your femurs is to get an X-Ray.  You might be able to safely approximate your tibia measurement at home, but femurs is impossible.  You have no idea where the bone actually starts. 

[exceeding2meters]

I don't think doing LL will result in anything healthier.

This femur/tibia thing is also consistently mentioned, but that is just one paper among many

If on the other side you ask if it is better for your proportions, probably yes

Try taking photos on waist level

[Body Builder]

Breaking a healthy bone and lengthen will not make you healthier in amy way possible.
LL will decrease your athletic abilities and may cause premature arthritis but it is the only way to become taller.
Risks may not be much if things go well but for sure you won't be healthier than before, no matter how short or long are your bones.

[short]

Here are some images at eye level

https://ibb.co/Fnv4PWv
https://ibb.co/X3hFp8q

Is it just me or are you wearing the underpants too low?!

[Michael J. Assayag, MD]

Dear Ronman,

I am a limb lengthening orthopedic surgeon. If you are happy with your height, femoral lengthening will have no benefits.

How did you derive your femur and tibia lengths? did you get calibrated xrays?

Proportions are no related to arthritis, pain, or future health issues.

Also, your limb alignment seems fine.

In a nutshell: don’t worry about it

[Ronman]

Thank you for your reply Doctor.

The measurements I took for Tibia and Femur were very rough. I just measured it myself with a tape measure.

Certainly I don't feel like it's anything abnormal.

Thanks for the info regarding proportions and arthritis.

Dear Ronman,

I am a limb lengthening orthopedic surgeon. If you are happy with your height, femoral lengthening will have no benefits.

How did you derive your femur and tibia lengths? did you get calibrated xrays?

Proportions are no related to arthritis, pain, or future health issues.

Also, your limb alignment seems fine.

In a nutshell: don’t worry about it

[Ronman]

Is it just me or are you wearing the underpants too low?!

I have a bit of a stomach so I usually wear pants and underpants below it.

[Kal el]

Is a 39 inch long legs too long for 171cm height.

[deletedaccount]

Is a 39 inch long legs too long for 171cm height.

Stop asking irrelevant questions in threads, make your own. It's annoying.

[ape]

you look average asf
if you want an excuse to do LL just do it lmao

[Ronman]

you look average asf
if you want an excuse to do LL just do it lmao

You mean average height or average proportions? Or both

[Medium Drink Of Water]

You look about like me.  Not ideal but not a problem either.

I don't think that's what's causing your knee pain when you exercise.  Extremely long femurs make doing squats a very different experience, but I can't think of exercises where tibia length matters since they don't affect ergonomics much.