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8.5 cm on femur and 6.5 cm on tibia too much?
« on: June 04, 2017, 12:43:10 AM »

Would doing a total of 15 cm be too much? Proportionately I will look fine because I have small legs. However, I am concerned about the recovery, so what do you guys think?
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Re: 8.5 cm on femur and 6.5 cm on tibia too much?
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2017, 01:47:45 AM »

How are you planning to lengthen 8.5 cm in femurs? Externals is a bad idea and Precise only allows until 8 cm.
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Re: 8.5 cm on femur and 6.5 cm on tibia too much?
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2017, 01:50:00 AM »

Depending on what techniques you will be using and with what doctors you are facing about 2-3 years for recovery and being able to do most lifetime activities... to return to sports or running I'm not sure how much they will be affected by a 15 cm lengthening and how long it would take
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Re: 8.5 cm on femur and 6.5 cm on tibia too much?
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2017, 04:21:16 AM »

I'm planning on doing femur's with either Dr. Guichet or Dr. Betz.
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Re: 8.5 cm on femur and 6.5 cm on tibia too much?
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2017, 01:40:36 PM »

6.5 cm on tibias is the max safe limit so if you are lucky and don't have major bf issues you can lengthen that much.

8.5 cm in femurs is more than safe imo. Stick to 7.5 to have a better result. After all 1cm difference when you do both segments is minor.
After all only albizzia offers lengthening more than 8cm, neither precise nor fitbone which are superior imo although not weight bearing.

What is your initial height if I could ask?
I am asking because when I'll do my second LL my height gain would be about 14 cm too with an initial height of 1.68.
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Re: 8.5 cm on femur and 6.5 cm on tibia too much?
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2017, 03:08:04 PM »

I think 8.5 cm in femur is a lot to do in one surgery, 7 cm is a more realistic goal. Or if you are doing it with Dr Guichet you can do 5 cm and then 3.5 cm in a second surgery (only to break the bone- because the nail is already inside). The advantages are full weightbearing and faster recovery. (I'm the only one in this forum that I know that lengthen more than 5 cm and started walking unaided at the second month post op, now walking normally at 3 months post op). However know that you are going to go through more pain than Precise patients and that Dr Guichet - I don't know if Dr Betz, do not perform ITB release so you will have to fight a lot of stiffness after 6 cm.
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Re: 8.5 cm on femur and 6.5 cm on tibia too much?
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2017, 08:04:42 PM »

I'm 5'7 (170 cm). So I suppose I should then aim for 13 cm and be a good 6'0 even. 7 cm on femur and 6 cm on tibia seems to be within the safe ranges of lengthening.
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Re: 8.5 cm on femur and 6.5 cm on tibia too much?
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2017, 08:37:36 PM »

I'm planning on doing femur's with either Dr. Guichet or Dr. Betz.
I'm 5'7 (170 cm). So I suppose I should then aim for 13 cm and be a good 6'0 even. 7 cm on femur and 6 cm on tibia seems to be within the safe ranges of lengthening.

Oh well you can just jump out of the window straight on your legs, effect will be very similar.
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Re: 8.5 cm on femur and 6.5 cm on tibia too much?
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2017, 09:17:24 PM »

I'm 5'7 (170 cm). So I suppose I should then aim for 13 cm and be a good 6'0 even. 7 cm on femur and 6 cm on tibia seems to be within the safe ranges of lengthening.

Try 5.5 on the femur and 4 on the tibia.
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Re: 8.5 cm on femur and 6.5 cm on tibia too much?
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2017, 02:01:28 AM »

I'm 5'7 (170 cm). So I suppose I should then aim for 13 cm and be a good 6'0 even. 7 cm on femur and 6 cm on tibia seems to be within the safe ranges of lengthening.

Its easy to tell, but whats the point of being 6' and walk like 80 years old
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Re: 8.5 cm on femur and 6.5 cm on tibia too much?
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2017, 03:07:48 AM »

I plan on doing 2 segments in a few years as well but I'm keeping it max to 11.5 cm total lengthening, 6.5 cm on femurs and 5 cm on tibias as stated in my signature. Anything more than 12 cm even from 2 segments is really pushing it imo. Honestly 5'11 is ideal for men as well, minuscule difference between 5'11 and 6'0.
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Re: 8.5 cm on femur and 6.5 cm on tibia too much?
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2017, 09:39:56 AM »

People seriously have to stop asking stupid questions like how much should I do, how much is too much, can some one else pay for my surgery etc.

What is this forum turning into?

If you can't gather how much is safe, how much you should lengthen, rate of lengthening and all these basic questions, this surgery is not for you. You are an idiot and should definitely keep away from this surgery.

Prices of these surgeries are going up because the demand is going up. Yet we have way less diaries going on then before and it's all because of these stupid questions these kids/idiots are asking.

Please guys, work towards creating a forum that is informative! Create an environment in which actual LLers feel they can learn from and also feel happy to contribute to.


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Re: 8.5 cm on femur and 6.5 cm on tibia too much?
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2017, 07:42:14 PM »

My bad, just started to consider limb lengthening so I'm just starting to learn everything about it. Doing my research on it right now so I can complete it with minimal to hopefully no complications. Problem I find is that everyone has their own numbers of what is safe and what is not, so it makes it all the more confusing.
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Re: 8.5 cm on femur and 6.5 cm on tibia too much?
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2017, 07:48:22 PM »

My bad, just started to consider limb lengthening so I'm just starting to learn everything about it. Doing my research on it right now so I can complete it with minimal to hopefully no complications. Problem I find is that everyone has their own numbers of what is safe and what is not, so it makes it all the more confusing.
There are no general rules as anyone's body is different.
Some people can handle 8cm while others not even 5.

The younger and the taller you are, the more you can lengthen most of the times but still noone can give you exact numbers.
Almost any LL'er could gain 5cm in tibias and 6 in femurs without many problems (that have to do with lengthening and not infections or malunions which can happen regardless of the height gained). Above that is up to each body if it can handle more lengthening or not.
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Re: 8.5 cm on femur and 6.5 cm on tibia too much?
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2017, 08:51:20 PM »

A safe amount for most of the people are 11 cm, dont allow your tibia doctor to lengthen achilles tendons, gain the most of course in femurs bit dont go above 8, starts to look weird.
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Re: 8.5 cm on femur and 6.5 cm on tibia too much?
« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2017, 10:25:13 PM »

People seriously have to stop asking stupid questions like how much should I do, how much is too much, can some one else pay for my surgery etc.

What is this forum turning into?

If you can't gather how much is safe, how much you should lengthen, rate of lengthening and all these basic questions, this surgery is not for you. You are an idiot and should definitely keep away from this surgery.

Prices of these surgeries are going up because the demand is going up. Yet we have way less diaries going on then before and it's all because of these stupid questions these kids/idiots are asking.

Please guys, work towards creating a forum that is informative! Create an environment in which actual LLers feel they can learn from and also feel happy to contribute to.

I agree we really underestimate the number of people undergoing this surgery, most of which I've seen have had successful outcomes. However, they don't write any diaries  or write here in the forum at all.

hammad, if I were you I would lengthen 6 cm in femurs and 5 cm in tibias, but even if you lengthen this apparently conservative amount. No one can guarantee you will come out with few or no complications. You should be prepared. For example if you are with a non weightbearing device and you have non union or delayed union you could multiply your time in a wheelchair. That may cause job or financial problems. Somewhere I've read a guy got compartmental syndrome from too much bleeding and edema during surgery and could have loss his leg. Even the surgery itself is a risk.
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