Topic: General questions about LON on tibias. (Read 5116 times)

onemorefoot · « **on:** October 12, 2016, 03:45:02 AM »

Hello, me again, I have been researching about this method, but maybe some ex-patients or patients want to help me:
How many cm should I do?
How is the recovery( I mean for example for 5 cm, when could I walk without crutches again)?
Pin site care can be done by the doctor or I should do it( because it really keeps me thinking about infections)?
How many months should I have frames?
What about knee pain?

The Kaiser · « **Reply #1 on:** October 12, 2016, 10:52:17 AM »

Quote from: onemorefoot on October 12, 2016, 03:45:02 AM

Hello, me again, I have been researching about this method, but maybe some ex-patients or patients want to help me:
How many cm should I do?
How is the recovery( I mean for example for 5 cm, when could I walk without crutches again)?
Pin site care can be done by the doctor or I should do it( because it really keeps me thinking about infections)?
How many months should I have frames?
What about knee pain?

Well walking without crutches is not an issue, because its usually takes 1-3 months after lengthening, what my concern is, when i will walk normally not like a zombie. Knee pain is common sometimes it will be your friend for ever if it does happen (although i don't know how much pain it is). about frames for external i don't know exactly, but maybe more than 5-6 months, and healing from external method is slower than internal by far

YourSpaceBoyfriend · « **Reply #2 on:** October 12, 2016, 11:19:22 AM »

Go for 5cm, maybe 6 if you are really desperate.
Nurses clean pin sites for you, later mostly you do it(it's recommended to have help with it since it's tedious).

Quote from: The Kaiser on October 12, 2016, 10:52:17 AM

and healing from external method is slower than internal by far

If you mean consolidation time then no, it's always the same no matter the method.

Hpc4637 · « **Reply #3 on:** October 12, 2016, 12:04:30 PM »

Quote from: YourSpaceBoyfriend on October 12, 2016, 11:19:22 AM

Go for 5cm, maybe 6 if you are really desperate.
Nurses clean pin sites for you, later mostly you do it(it's recommended to have help with it since it's tedious).

If you mean consolidation time then no, it's always the same no matter the method.

Quick question:for 6 cm external how long can I walk without crutches (not like pre operation but enough for others people can't notice that i have LL).
Sorry for my bad English and thank you so much for the answers

TrueSpartan · « **Reply #4 on:** October 12, 2016, 02:46:04 PM »

The general rule of thumb is 2 months per cm for external so for 5cm that's 10 months and 6cm that's 1 year.

However if you do latn or Lon. This is reduced to 1.5 months per cm so 7.5 months for 5cm of 9 months for 6cm.

Hpc4637 · « **Reply #5 on:** October 12, 2016, 04:49:16 PM »

Quote from: TrueSpartan on October 12, 2016, 02:46:04 PM

The general rule of thumb is 2 months per cm for external so for 5cm that's 10 months and 6cm that's 1 year.

However if you do latn or Lon. This is reduced to 1.5 months per cm so 7.5 months for 5cm of 9 months for 6cm.

I see,1 year disappear and then come back with new height seems not easy to me
But what about the salamehfix,has anyone here known about that device,dr salameh said that you can walk without support 2 months after 5cm and 4 after 8

Hpc4637 · « **Reply #6 on:** October 12, 2016, 04:53:05 PM »

That made me so confused cause I can't determine corectly that the salmehfix is similar to external or latn/lon

onemorefoot · « **Reply #7 on:** October 12, 2016, 07:45:22 PM »

So, after 5 months for 5 cm could I wallk without crutches?? I think four inches in total in both segments could look good.

The Kaiser · « **Reply #8 on:** October 13, 2016, 05:35:35 AM »

Quote from: YourSpaceBoyfriend on October 12, 2016, 11:19:22 AM

Go for 5cm, maybe 6 if you are really desperate.
Nurses clean pin sites for you, later mostly you do it(it's recommended to have help with it since it's tedious).

If you mean consolidation time then no, it's always the same no matter the method.

No you're wrong, Internal have faster recovery by far

Morissette · « **Reply #9 on:** October 13, 2016, 05:42:24 AM »

Quote from: The Kaiser on October 13, 2016, 05:35:35 AM

No you're wrong, Internal have faster recovery by far

Better support yea but that doesn't change bone consolidation

The Kaiser · « **Reply #10 on:** October 13, 2016, 05:47:18 AM »

Quote from: Morissette on October 13, 2016, 05:42:24 AM

Better support yea but that doesn't change bone consolidation

i wanna ask you whats Latin and LON i heard a lot about it? LON= lengthening on nail is that mean Internal like Gnail, Precice?

Hpc4637 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 13, 2016, 06:45:44 AM »

Quote from: The Kaiser on October 13, 2016, 05:47:18 AM

i wanna ask you whats Latin and LON i heard a lot about it? LON= lengthening on nail is that mean Internal like Gnail, Precice?

Please read it,I think it may help
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=95.0

Morissette · « **Reply #12 on:** October 13, 2016, 07:12:30 AM »

LON= lengthening over nail
The idea is still either external device but with a nail inside you bone that is locked into place which is with screws once lengthening is over. That's why external device can be removed after lengthening and you can start walking assisted 4-6 weeks later 8-10 weeks after device is removed you can start walking un assisted

The Kaiser · « **Reply #13 on:** October 13, 2016, 08:23:04 AM »

Quote from: Morissette on October 13, 2016, 05:42:24 AM

Better support yea but that doesn't change bone consolidation

but with Internal its better recovery, lets say 5 months for 7 cm to walk normally (not including sports)

YourSpaceBoyfriend · « **Reply #14 on:** October 13, 2016, 10:47:06 AM »

Quote from: The Kaiser on October 13, 2016, 08:23:04 AM

but with Internal its better recovery, lets say 5 months for 7 cm to walk normally (not including sports)

It's actually only 3 days after the surgery, nails themselves will walk for you!

Get real.

The Kaiser · « **Reply #15 on:** October 13, 2016, 05:49:38 PM »

Quote from: YourSpaceBoyfriend on October 13, 2016, 10:47:06 AM

It's actually only 3 days after the surgery, nails themselves will walk for you!

Get real.

well, just read some diaries and you will see with Gnail unlucky people walk almost normally in the 5th month. do you disagree?

onemorefoot · « **Reply #16 on:** October 13, 2016, 06:00:35 PM »

What about LATN, I have read that it is better?

The Kaiser · « **Reply #17 on:** October 13, 2016, 06:03:10 PM »

Quote from: onemorefoot on October 13, 2016, 06:00:35 PM

What about LATN, I have read that it is better?

its worse. nothing better than Internal if you have a budget with a good doctor

onemorefoot · « **Reply #18 on:** October 13, 2016, 06:10:42 PM »

I am poor, I have to do externals, LATN or LON?

The Kaiser · « **Reply #19 on:** October 13, 2016, 06:34:59 PM »

Quote from: onemorefoot on October 13, 2016, 06:10:42 PM

I am poor, I have to do externals, LATN or LON?

External tibia's good option, if you don't have a good budget.

onemorefoot · « **Reply #20 on:** October 13, 2016, 06:59:55 PM »

Ok, so now LATN or LON?

?

YourSpaceBoyfriend · « **Reply #21 on:** October 13, 2016, 08:07:45 PM »

Quote from: The Kaiser on October 13, 2016, 08:23:04 AM

but with Internal its better recovery, lets say 5 months for 7 cm to walk normally (not including sports)

Quote from: The Kaiser on October 13, 2016, 05:49:38 PM

well, just read some diaries and you will see with Gnail unlucky people walk almost normally in the 5th month. do you disagree?

So normally or almost normally?

And no, you probably still need to be aided after 5 months especially when you did 7cm.... i don't even think your bones consolidated enough to do so without risk of bending the nail.

Quote from: onemorefoot on October 13, 2016, 06:59:55 PM