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Armenia, Yerevan, Dr. Arshak E. Mirzoyan
« on: January 26, 2016, 04:10:14 PM »

I live next to Armenia, so I'm interested about this doctor, not only for price, it's easy for me to move in Yerevan and stay there as long as I need.

I e-mailed him about procedure and he told me that if I lengthen both segments, there's an option to perform it in "Cross-Lateral" mode.

He also told me that they were able to gain 16 centimeters in "Cross-Lateral" mode on a male patient, where full procedure lasted 16 months (Including rehabilitation). He explained that this amount of lengthening where performed because there was significant disproportion between patients lower and upper body.

I want to collect more information about this doctor and his clinic.

Thanks.
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Re: Armenia, Yerevan, Dr. Arshak E. Mirzoyan
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2016, 06:39:54 PM »

sounds interesting. I am searching for a good and cheap doctor, too. Maybe you can give us more information soon. Does he also use an internal methode or only external?
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Re: Armenia, Yerevan, Dr. Arshak E. Mirzoyan
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2016, 07:29:39 PM »

A former patient of the doc had a very bad experience with him and so far his was the only real detailed account of doing CLL with Dr Mirzoyan.
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Initial height: 164 cm / ~5'5" (Surgery on 6/25/2014)
Current height: 170 cm / 5'7" (Frames removed 6/29/2015)
External Tibia lengthening performed by Dr Mangal Parihar in Mumbai, India.
My Cosmetic Leg Lengthening Experience

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Re: Armenia, Yerevan, Dr. Arshak E. Mirzoyan
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2016, 08:00:13 PM »

Can you link me his/her diary?
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Re: Armenia, Yerevan, Dr. Arshak E. Mirzoyan
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2016, 08:11:42 PM »

It's on the old forum. Search for craig49's diary.
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Initial height: 164 cm / ~5'5" (Surgery on 6/25/2014)
Current height: 170 cm / 5'7" (Frames removed 6/29/2015)
External Tibia lengthening performed by Dr Mangal Parihar in Mumbai, India.
My Cosmetic Leg Lengthening Experience

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Re: Armenia, Yerevan, Dr. Arshak E. Mirzoyan
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2016, 08:18:22 PM »

Can you tell me what was the major complication he got there?

I'm new here, so I want to summarize every pros and cons before I decide where to go, how much to lengthen, etc.
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Re: Armenia, Yerevan, Dr. Arshak E. Mirzoyan
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2016, 09:11:51 PM »

Do you know price?
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Re: Armenia, Yerevan, Dr. Arshak E. Mirzoyan
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2016, 09:32:35 PM »

He charges 1900$ per centimeter (Both legs).
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Re: Armenia, Yerevan, Dr. Arshak E. Mirzoyan
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2016, 10:31:01 PM »

Thank you :) Do you maybe know does he do internal or just external?
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Re: Armenia, Yerevan, Dr. Arshak E. Mirzoyan
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2016, 10:37:46 PM »

As far as I know, he uses external method (Ilizarov apparatus).
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Re: Armenia, Yerevan, Dr. Arshak E. Mirzoyan
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2016, 10:43:51 PM »

He charges 1900$ per centimeter (Both legs).

1900$ per centimeter? Is he a butcher that he calculate prices based on cms?
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Re: Armenia, Yerevan, Dr. Arshak E. Mirzoyan
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2016, 10:47:35 PM »

It's kinda useful when lengthening 2 inches or below of that.
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Re: Armenia, Yerevan, Dr. Arshak E. Mirzoyan
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2016, 12:42:12 AM »

Can you tell me what was the major complication he got there?

Craig had his femurs lengthened by 6 cm using monorails in Lebanon and the doctor did a really poor job and left him with complications, I believe his femurs snapped. He went to Dr Mirzoyan in Armenia to get the bowing in his left femur corrected and his tibiae lengthened.

Mirzoyan never did a full CAT scan on Craig and he ended up with x-legs because of Mirzoyan screwing up the femur correction. He first incorrectly told Craig that 2 months would be enough time for his femurs to heal, which turned out to not be the case because after 10 weeks he removed some pins to increase the load on the femur, which caused Craig's left femur to crack. Mirzoyan told him to keep waiting, but then his femur cracked again and also bowed once more. He then told Craig that if he bends his knees after frame removal, the bone could break, something he didn't tell him beforehand. Craig wasn't happy with the bowing, rightfully so, and asked Dr Mirzoyan to switch the fixator from the half circle to a unilateral fixator and correct the bowing. Mirzoyan performed another surgery to switch the fixator, but then overcorrected the bowing so he still had a problem. Craig didn't want to have external fixation on his femur any longer after that point and asked Mirzoyan to put in a nail. Mirzoyan put in the wrong kind of nail and Craig's knees were pulled inward because of it, giving him a bad case of valgus (x-legs). Craig was charged an extra $5,000 by Mirzoyan to fix the problems he caused, which was on top of the $8,000 he charged for the initial surgery.

Afterward, Craig's right tibia had a length discrepancy and a bump on it as a complication of Mirzoyan doing the double cut method on his tibiae. His doctor in Saudi Arabia said he should remove the nail in his femur, but the doc was unable to so he asked Craig to ask Mirzoyan what kind of nail he put in there. Mirzoyan replied that he put a nail called a Synthes 10/40 inside, and even though Craig contacted docs to see if they can remove the nail, none knew where he could find a device to remove it because Mirzoyan put in a very old nail model. Craig contacted Dr Mirzoyan to ask what nail he used, and he told Craig that he uses a universal kit for nail removal, which he would send him for $3,600. Craig paid Mirzoyan for the kit, but his doctor in Saudi Arabia was still unable to remove the nail using the device Mirzoyan sent. Not only that, but the nail Mirzoyan put into Craig's femur was already broken before he inserted it (meaning no extractor could remove it) and it wasn't a Synthes nail like Mirzoyan said. Craig contacted Mirzoyan wanting an explanation and was completely ignored by the doctor. Craig ended up going to Dr Sarin in India to get the nail removed, and Sarin had to use a different kind of instrument to get it out. Turned out the nail was a Zimmer model and not a Synthes nail.

Craig said he never got an apology from Dr Mirzoyan, who was nice to him at first but then treated him badly after everything was paid for, and Mirzoyan even wrote to him saying that people thought he was crazy for badmouthing him. His doctor in Saudi Arabia ended up correcting his complications but Craig went through hell with multiple doctors. First the guy in Lebanon messed him up, then Mirzoyan in Armenia, and then when Craig went to get scar removal in India, Dr Chaudhary performed an Achilles tenotomy on him when he was under because he thought his achilles wasn't loose enough, without telling him prior that he was going to do that. Went back to Sarin to get that corrected too.

Last I read he seems to have recovered well enough, but goddamn he went through so much s***.

In addition to Craig's experience, things Dr Parihar told me reinforced my opinion that people shouldn't go to Dr Mirzoyan. Dr Parihar will absolutely not do cross-lateral lengthening for CLL, nor will he lengthen you with external femurs or perform the double-cut method - all things that Mirzoyan does. Dr Mirzoyan also claimed that inserting two wires into the bone canal speed up bone healing, but there haven't been any studies to back that up and the surgeons I spoke to told me that there's no evidence for that being true.

TL;DR - Skip Mirzoyan if you value your legs.
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Initial height: 164 cm / ~5'5" (Surgery on 6/25/2014)
Current height: 170 cm / 5'7" (Frames removed 6/29/2015)
External Tibia lengthening performed by Dr Mangal Parihar in Mumbai, India.
My Cosmetic Leg Lengthening Experience

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Re: Armenia, Yerevan, Dr. Arshak E. Mirzoyan
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2016, 01:03:43 AM »

I can't imagine that doctors can treat their patients that way. It's so horrible to be treated like "Experimental Monkey", especially when you pay such an amount of money.

I want to undergo this surgery, but I have no funds right now, so I should carefully consider right doctor, where I'll be safe.

Also, price is another factor which "Drags" me to lengthen using external method.

Please, suggest me good options, where it'll be safe and cheap compared to other doctors, like Dr. Paley or Dr. Betz.

Sorry for my moderate English, I believe you fully understand my writings here.

Thanks again!
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Re: Armenia, Yerevan, Dr. Arshak E. Mirzoyan
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2016, 09:57:53 AM »

A British guy went to mirzoyan doing cross lengthening.

Everything went wrong so he got back home with his knees at different level. He lived like this for years and I still don't know if he corrected it.
He wrote one time that he was going to Dr Betz to correct it but I don't know if he ever did.

I was about to go there doing cross lengthening. If it wouldn't be for this guy I would be the sucker.

Stay away from Mirzoyan.
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173cm before LL with Sarin, jan -13. Now 180cm tall. Considering 5cm on femurs.

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Re: Armenia, Yerevan, Dr. Arshak E. Mirzoyan
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2016, 03:27:18 PM »

oh thats really a scary story. sad to hear what can happen when you dont have the money for one of the top doctors. When you search for a good doctor I think the most important question beside questions about skills and experience is how does a doctor behave when complications arise? Does he cares about you or will he abandon you and leave you in the lurch?
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