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Max height for tibia (retaining full athletic functions) assuming average starting tibia length

Less than 5.0 cm
- 5 (17.9%)
5.0 cm
- 7 (25%)
5.5 cm
- 4 (14.3%)
6.0 cm
- 6 (21.4%)
6.5 cm
- 1 (3.6%)
7.0 cm
- 0 (0%)
7.5 cm
- 3 (10.7%)
8.0 cm
- 0 (0%)
8.5 cm
- 0 (0%)
9.0 cm
- 2 (7.1%)

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ItsMyLife

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Assuming a rigorous plyometrics regime after LL, if you wanted to retain your vertical leap or make it higher, and/or other athletic measures eg endurancfe, what is the longest you can go?

I mean, I see Apo and it was pretty pathetic he tried to jump on a 8 or 9 inch block..... I mean, the average NBA player can jump like 70 cm.... (but that was not too long from his operation, so maybe he could have progressed...). Anyone knows what happened?
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Re: Tibia Ex-fix: Best compromise between length and athletic functions
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2015, 04:09:36 AM »

Apo says that he can play basketball quite well now; so well that he apparently sometimes forgets that he lengthened 20CM. He lengthened slowly and walked a ton during lengthening, so I don't see why his soft tissues wouldn't have adapted near perfectly. It is possible to safely lengthen the tibiae huge amounts, but the trick is to go slowly and do tons and tons of PT and walking. Recovery from big amounts of lengthening WILL take a really log time, often years, but it can happen. Dr. Betz said it takes about 3-4 years for soft tissue and athletic activity to fully recover from 9-10CM on the tibiae, versus 1-1.5 years for the same amount on the femurs.
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Re: Tibia Ex-fix: Best compromise between length and athletic functions
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2015, 05:14:42 AM »

How much walking did Apo do during the lengthening phase?? He is indeed the legend of LL.
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Re: Tibia Ex-fix: Best compromise between length and athletic functions
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2015, 05:16:02 AM »

also, given his misfeasance in office, I was wondering if he lied about his 11 cm (9 cm retained) gain on tibia? And his recovery (since he's mocked so much here). Whats the likelihood its a lie to promote his doctors that they can do such grossly excessive amounts?
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Re: Tibia Ex-fix: Best compromise between length and athletic functions
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2015, 02:40:09 PM »

ive read and seen you are going for 8cm but i honestly do not see you recovering a good portion of your athletic ability's doing 8cm... 3 inches on one bone segment especially the tibia that's just insane to me...(im taking a ruler now and seeing how much of bone gap would be for 3.2 inches and its just way to much. im not trying to sound like an   but i think most people should even be happy that we are even able to lengthen 4-6cm let alone 8! Its like going to a casino and going all in when your already up so much. its just pointless and greedy at that point...

but if it all goes well for you itsmylife more power to you but honestly i would have never risked 8cm on a segment just for an extra inch n half on top of the 2 inches your already should be happy enough about getting... the potential of the rest of my life being ruined because i couldn't stop sooner and wanted a couple more cms just isnt my cup of tea.
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Re: Tibia Ex-fix: Best compromise between length and athletic functions
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2015, 05:24:12 PM »

ive read and seen you are going for 8cm but i honestly do not see you recovering a good portion of your athletic ability's doing 8cm... 3 inches on one bone segment especially the tibia that's just insane to me...(im taking a ruler now and seeing how much of bone gap would be for 3.2 inches and its just way to much. im not trying to sound like an ahole but i think most people should even be happy that we are even able to lengthen 4-6cm let alone 8! Its like going to a casino and going all in when your already up so much. its just pointless and greedy at that point...

but if it all goes well for you itsmylife more power to you but honestly i would have never risked 8cm on a segment just for an extra inch n half on top of the 2 inches your already should be happy enough about getting... the potential of the rest of my life being ruined because i couldn't stop sooner and wanted a couple more cms just isnt my cup of tea.

Intuitively.. Occam's razor gives the answer that 8 cm is dangerous and risking your athleticism. And that my doctor is totally wrong that 8 cm is alright and I can make a full recovery.

Yes, on a ruler,  8 cm is long but it is a gradual process. I have heard of patients doing 7.5 cm and having problems with athleticism. So in the last few weeks I am thinking to stop at 7, to play safe.

Any thoughts? Any studies? Any statistics? Cos' I do hear a lot of talk and not so much substantiation. Yes I have read from some doctors that say even 5 cm as the limit. But are there any members here who did beyond 5 cm and had permanent loss of athletic ability? EVEN IF they did, did they make an intense effort on plyometrics like our LL legend did? (Apo/Sysop)
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Re: Tibia Ex-fix: Best compromise between length and athletic functions
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2015, 03:05:05 AM »

your not going to get an objective answer, lots of guys here like to delude them selves (understandably) into believing they can be their dream height and 100% athletic. ask a doctor.
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Re: Tibia Ex-fix: Best compromise between length and athletic functions
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2015, 08:39:21 AM »

The more you lengthen, the higher the recovery time and the higher the risk, period. You don't need any studies to realize that lengthening 1 cm is safer than lengthening 10, and the same should hold true for lengthening 4 vs lengthening 5. I don't think there's a magic number, but I do believe under 5cm is ideal.
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Re: Tibia Ex-fix: Best compromise between length and athletic functions
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2015, 12:12:43 PM »

Studies to show risk profile would be helpful.
I don't think there is a definite cut-off point. Ie, a 190 cm guy can probably do 10 cm fine.
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