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[GROWtalORdieTRYING1]

antoky:
I don't understand how much you want to lengthen.

and how did you come to that value.. it seems a little precise to be honest.

are you saying 4.8cm to 5cm? why not just shoot for 5cm? there wont be any difference.

ps. when you start your diary is up to you. but I personally believe that a diary should not be started more than 4 weeks before your surgery and journey.

[GROWtalORdieTRYING1]

I don't know if this has been asked thousand times by now I would expect so but I haven't found anything so take mercy if my questions ignorant. Is anybody able to go to these doctors without having all the funds available? Has anyone gotten any type of cosmetic loans or otherwise? What's out there as far as financing surgery by these docs

I think medium drink of water is the best to answer this question on finance. as he did this personally. this question was answered in his thread where he goes through the chapters of his LL journey in china. 

[ReadRothbard]

If you are going to spend $80k, I'd go for about 7.5 cm. You might as well get your money's worth.

[antoky]

antoky:
I don't understand how much you want to lengthen.

and how did you come to that value.. it seems a little precise to be honest.

are you saying 4.8cm to 5cm? why not just shoot for 5cm? there wont be any difference.

ps. when you start your diary is up to you. but I personally believe that a diary should not be started more than 4 weeks before your surgery and journey.

Yes, I agree: 4.8 or 5 isn't different and it will depend about the way I will feel in the fire of the experience (of lengthening)...I need to come back to my job at the 1st of February 15, after a long 60 days off...

Some other dude wants me to start right now a diary, with all the psychological side of getting ready for Guichet's internal saw ...I must ponder when to start my diary so..
Cheers.

[sadboy]

Can anyone tell me how you can prepare yourself for LL? What sort of training must you do? Do you have to work out? Become flexible? Train your legs? Etc...

Thanks.

[ReadRothbard]

Can anyone tell me how you can prepare yourself for LL? What sort of training must you do? Do you have to work out? Become flexible? Train your legs? Etc...

Thanks.

Dr. Guichet puts you on a crazy strength and flexibility program beforehand; he'll brief you at your consultation.

[alps]

Yes, I agree: 4.8 or 5 isn't different and it will depend about the way I will feel in the fire of the experience (of lengthening)...I need to come back to my job at the 1st of February 15, after a long 60 days off...

Some other dude wants me to start right now a diary, with all the psychological side of getting ready for Guichet's internal saw ...I must ponder when to start my diary so..
Cheers.

antoky, how much have you saved so far for the surgery?
How much do you expect the cost to be?

[Greek-Semidget]

if the work is sedentary you will be just fine I guess and yeah if there are no complications you may make it on time. Too much risk but its worth taken, also there is the PT programm...

[antoky]

antoky, how much have you saved so far for the surgery?
How much do you expect the cost to be?

I live in Italy  so all so far are those of italian hospitals in Milan, which Guichet himself would recommend in his oper-list he would provide you with during his first consultation: as per now, I made 2 Cybex tests (660 €), one bone DEXA (350) and one Rx (180) and one psychological evaluation (300). I am to do a cardiovascular and a dentist evaluation and pre-operation blood tests. I will talk about operation cost itself and post-op training costs when I will know about them exactly (it will be around 50.000)..

Cheers.

[paco1]

I think the doctor guichet prices are indecent.

[antoky]

Not differently than Betz's price or Paley's...but they are a monopolistic trio which represent the best way to get our limbs longer.

I agree with you BTW.

[paco1]

Yes your are right.
By my part fking them.

[Metanoia]

Not differently than Betz's price or Paley's...but they are a monopolistic trio which represent the best way to get our limbs longer.

Sorry, but i have to disagree. Many doctors do internals if that's what you mean. And Betz is clearly inferior to the other 2 you mention. Just look at his complication rates.

Price-wise you are right. They are overpriced. The prices for those nails are ridiculous.

[antoky]

Sorry, but i have to disagree. Many doctors do internals if that's what you mean. And Betz is clearly inferior to the other 2 you mention. Just look at his complication rates.

Price-wise you are right. They are overpriced. The prices for those nails are ridiculous.

Yes, they are.
Around 7 or 10 thousand euros per centimeter: maybe in the future, when manipulating our limbs will become a platitude like manipulating our chest (for breast augmentation or reduction) this price would down by far.

[GROWtalORdieTRYING1]

Around 7 or 10 thousand euros per centimeter

I never though about it like that before.

the price for 1cm with guitch is around the price for my entire femur LL.

its like the American medical system, people get used to the prices, but its still a complete fking rip off. just because everyone does something doesn't make it right. a 2 hour fking surgery is not 70 fking thousand dollars!!!!!!!

[GROWtalORdieTRYING1]

everyone is on like 20 dollars an hour........... but somehow we are suppose to believe that surgeons deserve to earn 35 thousand fuking dollars per hour.

wake up people. its a rip off.




(yes I understand there are costs involved and its not all profit. same point were on 20 dollars an hour they are on 10ns of thousands.) (its a bull   designed system.)

[programdude]

everyone is on like 20 dollars an hour........... but somehow we are suppose to believe that surgeons deserve to earn 35 thousand fuking dollars per hour.

wake up people. its a rip off.




(yes I understand there are costs involved and its not all profit. same point were on 20 dollars an hour they are on 10ns of thousands.) (its a bull s**t designed system.)

Don't get me wrong, prices are outrageous. But the surgeons themselves don't make even close to 35k even if a surgery took an hour. In my case and many others it takes at least 2-3 too.

[OregonMade]

YES! It definitely seems like women have this life alot easier than men.  I agree with what you said.  We men get judge all the time for stuff out of are control, and we give the world to women, but at the end of the day if we don't meet certain criterion; if she finds another man that does, and can effectively have him just as seduced as you she will swing like a monkey from your branch to his.  Sucks huh but thats life.  I would just keep your guard up towards all women except your mother, your sister, and your grandma haha lol  Once we get older if life the dynamic shifts a little.  We get more distinguished and amass more resources which adds to our attraction level.  You got to know how to communicate effectively though.  Women on the other hand lose their beauty, and statistically speaking have far less money and influence. 

[w1988]

Yes, they are.
Around 7 or 10 thousand euros per centimeter: maybe in the future, when manipulating our limbs will become a platitude like manipulating our chest (for breast augmentation or reduction) this price would down by far.

When a car lease agreement ends I check how much I paid in total and then divide it by the mileage to workout how much it costed me per mile (usually starts to make me consider taking taxis haaa). I never thought of CLL that way, $10k per cm now seems crazy. I'm still saving to go for Guichet but you got me thinking — I could f**k 700-800 hookers ($100/30min bookings) for the cost of CLL, but then again there will always be that void.