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[guy_incognito]

Hey guys

New to this forum (didnt even realize old school forums like that still existed in this day and age). I did the magnetic rod OP on my tibias, past week. Despite what I read on this forum, I did made the decision to undergo LL in an impulsive manner. Hence, I still have some doubts. In the optimistic scenerio where I dont end up needing a wheelchair for the rest of my life, I would like to gain enough height to be considered average. Also, there still seems to be a big dispute on this forum, that have yet to be settled, namely, who should get to have the knowledge about the LL surgery in our lives.

First of all, I believe the LL will become mainstream within the following years. Mainstream enough, for people to notice. Second of all, I believe my closest ones will definitely notice if you go over few cms in height.

I did all I could to realistically keep it hidden, I did the shoes with extra padding my whole life, got some nice sneakers now, with no padding whatsoever. I also did the whole "depression" thing (which is true to certain extent), so I believe that any discrepancy in my usual behaviour (no meetings, phone only) should be better understood by my relatives.

Im still unsure whether I should do 4 or 5 cms. My original thought, was to get 3.5-4cms, as getting just a few cms would be much less taxing on my soft tissue and much easier to hide. If I start wearing short hair (rn I like to keep it classic, just pulling back my hair so that I get that extra 4-5cms visually), I believe it should be plenty enough to keep my appearance unchanged to an untrained eye. Even with 5 cms tibia gain.

Is my thinking reasonable? Be advised that I intend to keep it a secret for as long as Im unable to walk (how long would that be, about 4 months?), my close family will grow suspicious. As the last line of defense, I intend to make up an excuse for the OP, however I already see it as something that brings too much attention to the entire ordeal. Ive also been thinking about inviting my family over, a month from now, when hopefully I would be able to fake being able to walk well enough (crutches hidden under the bed ofc).

What do you guys think about that?

[limby101]

I guess it's an individual experience and everyone has his own way of looking at this human experience we have..
For me, I honestly think being 5+ cm taller would be awesome when knowing new people, but with the people I know in my life, it would cause me more distress and shame and discomfort. They would be suspicious and if I tell them about the surgery they might see through my insecurity. Who wants that? But again, that's just me. Perhaps people would actually react differently and for sure we don't need to give so much weight to peoples reactions and thoughts (easier said than done).

If you did precice on tibias, you can walk unassisted once the consolidation is enough, which is about 3-4 months for 3 cm gain.. on average or ideally.
I'm not sure you'll be able to walk normally though. This would take more time.

Whats your initial height?
For 170cm I would shoot for 4-5 and if my body limits me I would do minimum 3cm.

[DanishViking]

1. Doing tibias instead of femurs is always stupid look hear why: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=83916.0

2. Fair enough if you wanna keep it hidden, but ask yourself this: Are trying to become taller to satisy yourself or doing it to get more acceptance from others?

3. If I was you I would start to gain enough confidence for people not to care whether you have gotten it done or not. How does it change your life if some people judge you, and think your stupid because you did LL?

But welcome to the community tho. Whatever you do please don't do tibias, lon and go with turkish or indian surgeons. Why? Look at these posts:

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=78387.31

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=71235.0

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=79700.0

[G8788]

Hey guys

New to this forum (didnt even realize old school forums like that still existed in this day and age). I did the magnetic rod OP on my tibias, past week. Despite what I read on this forum, I did made the decision to undergo LL in an impulsive manner. Hence, I still have some doubts. In the optimistic scenerio where I dont end up needing a wheelchair for the rest of my life, I would like to gain enough height to be considered average. Also, there still seems to be a big dispute on this forum, that have yet to be settled, namely, who should get to have the knowledge about the LL surgery in our lives.

First of all, I believe the LL will become mainstream within the following years. Mainstream enough, for people to notice. Second of all, I believe my closest ones will definitely notice if you go over few cms in height.

I did all I could to realistically keep it hidden, I did the shoes with extra padding my whole life, got some nice sneakers now, with no padding whatsoever. I also did the whole "depression" thing (which is true to certain extent), so I believe that any discrepancy in my usual behaviour (no meetings, phone only) should be better understood by my relatives.

Im still unsure whether I should do 4 or 5 cms. My original thought, was to get 3.5-4cms, as getting just a few cms would be much less taxing on my soft tissue and much easier to hide. If I start wearing short hair (rn I like to keep it classic, just pulling back my hair so that I get that extra 4-5cms visually), I believe it should be plenty enough to keep my appearance unchanged to an untrained eye. Even with 5 cms tibia gain.

Is my thinking reasonable? Be advised that I intend to keep it a secret for as long as Im unable to walk (how long would that be, about 4 months?), my close family will grow suspicious. As the last line of defense, I intend to make up an excuse for the OP, however I already see it as something that brings too much attention to the entire ordeal. Ive also been thinking about inviting my family over, a month from now, when hopefully I would be able to fake being able to walk well enough (crutches hidden under the bed ofc).

What do you guys think about that?

Your beliefs are utterly ridiculous and that's the issue here. There is no chance, none at all, that LL will ever be 'mainstream'. The average American (the richest country in the world) is 2 missed paychecks from financial ruin, like hell most have 40-100k sitting around to do this and can take 3 months off work. It'll remain a niche surgery that is done only by trust fund kids (with blackpilled parents, which is rare in itself), guys who can work remotely, and wagies who slave away for 5+ years in their cubicle to afford this.

No one is going to 'notice'. How many guys have you 'noticed' got LL when you walk outside in the street? Yeah that's right boyo, 0.

[guy_incognito]

Yea, my initial height is 170 with a nice mobility, so that would give me a possibility of going for 5 cms. As for the insecurity, Im very accommodating about it. As with all complexes, you are not supposed to mention them or be hung up about them. That being said, if the topic comes about in a discussion, I dont shy away from it. I dont think that my family would be surprised in the slightest. What do you mean I wont be able to walk normally? As long as I wont have crutches on me and Im able to stand up on my own, that would be plenty for me. Sort of hoped for it to be less than 2 months.

[guy_incognito]

Well, whats done is done, I went for the tibias. It was actually my doc who recommended that If Im going for a small raise, than the tibias would be more aesthetic. I was aware that doing the femurs would have been "easier", still I have trusted my doctor with the final decision.

As for the reasons why I do it, I want to become more attractive.

Confidence? Im not confident enough to tell it to anybody of my own volition, this procedure is extravagant, to say the least. That being said, if it ever comes to light, Ill be fine about it, it depends whether somebody will manage to catch my lies, and to what extent.

So yeah, I didnt go to Turkey nor India to do the surgery. I did it locally, a week ago, using precice rods, for better or worse, on tibias.

[guy_incognito]

I hope you are right and Im mistaken about my beliefs of the LL going "mainstream". I did start to look for the scars on legs of other people, so far have not noticed any people that were suspicious, or had unusually long legs. And yes, it is my remote work that makes it possible, this surgery is available only to a handful of people. That being said, instagram is a hell of a tool for pushing various agendas. Going for 4 cms instead of lets say 10 in total, will be much easier to hide, should this procedure were to reach a wider audience any time soon. The question still stands, should it be 4 or 5 cms? Will there even be a noticeable difference between those 2 options?

[informationispower]

I hope you are right and Im mistaken about my beliefs of the LL going "mainstream". I did start to look for the scars on legs, so far have not noticed any people that were suspicious, or had unusually long legs. And yes, it is my remote work that makes it possible, it is available only to a handful of people. That being said, instagram is a hell of a tool for pushing various agendas. Going for 4 cms instead of lets say 10 in total, will be much easier to hide. The question still stands, should it be 4 or 5 cms? Will there even be a noticeable difference between those 2 options?

Get to 4cms and see how you feel. If you feel content stop if not fo to 5

[G8788]

I hope you are right and Im mistaken about my beliefs of the LL going "mainstream". I did start to look for the scars on legs, so far have not noticed any people that were suspicious, or had unusually long legs. And yes, it is my remote work that makes it possible, it is available only to a handful of people. That being said, instagram is a hell of a tool for pushing various agendas. Going for 4 cms instead of lets say 10 in total, will be much easier to hide. The question still stands, should it be 4 or 5 cms? Will there even be a noticeable difference between those 2 options?

You only notice things on Instagram/Tiktok etc because you're in that world and following LL news. 99% of the population isn't following LL accounts or reading up about LL.

The fact you'll have walked past tens of thousands of people in your daily life on the street and didn't 'notice' any of them having done LL says it all. Either no one from that massive sample did it, or your (and others) powers of 'noticing' IRL aren't anywhere near as good as you think. Probably a combination of both. Either way, this surgery is nowhere near becoming mainstream, and so long as the massive financial barriers are in place, it never will be. How many guys can just drop 50k and take 3 months off work in their 20s or 30s (40+ year old guys have aged out and arent the competition anymore)? It's not very many, the combination of having a high salary job AND being able to take lots of time off is quite a rare one, so you're basically just looking at trust funders and those who don't have a traditional job.

4cm instead of 10cm will be 'easier to hide' but will also be of nowhere near as much benefit, however very few people can get 10cm on one segment anyway, and that drops to pretty much 0% of people if we're talking about tibias.

[guy_incognito]

I think Ill do just that, Ill try to make a decision once I get there. 4cms would be plenty enough for me, I dont want to get greedy. Im not sure If I want to proceed with doing the femurs. If I were to do the femurs as well, I will definitely have to come clean about LL surgery.

[TheDream]

If it was me I would go for 4 cm tibias. It is less taxing on the body, and it opens for you in the future doing 5 cm femur if you want to which would recover the natural 0.8 tibia to femur ratio.

Better to be 4 cm taller and have a great recovery than push it 5 cm and risk ballerina.

As for the keeping it to yourself or not. If I were you I would 100% keep it to myself. We do this procedure to try and get away from height   in social settings. If people know you do this they’ll never shut up about your height until the end of time.

[BelowTheMean]

It's really hard to notice, though with tibias you'll have scars on your lower legs that people will see whenever you're wearing shorts.

I did 8cm on femur and got away with no one knowing for sure. Anyone who was suspicious I just gaslit until they gave up in confusion. Nowadays most of my friends that I hang out with are new and didn't even know what I looked like before COVID. If I ever get married and have kids, move to the suburbs, etc. I'll probably once again end up with a completely new/different circle of friends. I don't think it's that hard to hide it.

[Chadwick]

That is not exactly true. The precise rods and external fixators have a load limit. That is 100% true.
I have heard that the precise only has a 75lb strength. Beyond that, they will bend and then break.
A great many patients are snapping their rods because they expect to be able to walk normally before consolidation. 

[betzbone1236]

I would recommend focusing efforts on just a successful recovery.