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[Kanye Western]

Hello Forum,

After a long few months of thinking about whether this surgery would be worth it, I've finally decided to do it. Bit of background into myself, male, mid 20s, 167cm, British/African.

Why I've decided to do the surgery?


I've always been the smallest around my peers and it never really bothered me till I hit my teens. Had severe height dysphoria till around my early 20s, then with a bit of therapy learned to love myself and surpassed this stage. Was OK and relatively happy for a few years, till breakup with my ex-girlfriend. I was never comfortable around her, my height dysphoria started to appear again and it totally ruined my relationship. I didn't want to be around her, her family or even meet her friends. I then concluded, I'll never be able to love anyone if I don't truly love myself. I'll never have society accept me, if I don't accept myself first.

Why I've decided to go with the Betzbone?


Initially the LON method was the method I was going to do. But after research, the pain, recovery and exclusion from society for months would be tough. There would be too many questions and I wouldn't be able to react too. Also, I've read so many backlash (on this forum) about surgeons from Turkey (Live Life Taller, Wanna Be Taller, etc.) I don't want to complicate my health for the sake of saving money.

When I'm planning on doing the surgery?


I'm planning on undergoing the surgery April/May 2023. It's a very expensive surgery, and I've started to save for it. I actually told my dad (who surprisingly is supporting me and has offered to assist financially. I haven't told my mom or siblings and don't know if I will).

Question in terms of fastest possible recovery?


Ideally I'm only looking to lengthen 6-7cm, reaching that 173/174cm mark would be life changing. My job requires me to be in the office 5 times a week, with mixture of 70% office & 30% on site (which requires a lot of walking). I'll be taking a month of work anyways at the start, but in terms of being able to walk whilst lengthening (how possible is it a month after OP without using crutches)?

Post Clicking


Once I've finished lengthening, if I accidently click, will this cause my bones to lengthen again?

How should I start mentally/physically preparing myself for this surgery?


What are the best approaches? In terms of exercising, stretches', pre/post surgery thoughts?



I'm aware of all the complications & cost implications that are associated with the surgery, but I'd rather be go through a couple of months/years going through this journey, than spending the rest of my life depressed.

Thanks for taking time out to read my post! 

[SpeedDialer]

Good luck Kanye!

When you go to Germany, be careful not to start a second World War 2 over uh... you know



I believe you meant nothing wrong and it is unfortunate things turned out the way things did and Twitter banned your account. I hope things get better, and I'm looking forward to your next album

I think its great you went with Betzbone, tell us how clicking goes. I heard that it is supposed to be easier than gnail clicking, and it definitely looks easier from the official betzbone videos on youtube

[SpeedDialer]

What are the best approaches? In terms of exercising, stretches', pre/post surgery thoughts?

Hey!!! Probably I would take it easy, can do some light stretching and walking but I think its good not be too sore the week right before the surgery. You could try sleeping on your back to see if you can tolerate it, you'll have to for a little while for the surgery until your side wounds heal if you're doing femurs

I think from talking with the Athens patients, its good to have:
- claw grabber thing
- oversized fanny pack/waist bag to hold stuff
- soft ice pads (great for pain, I use it for pain after clicking mostly)

Pretty sure the above is universally helpful, other stuff is maybe more debatable

I'm assuming you're doing femurs with Betzbone

Psychologically, I think the first two weeks or so are difficult because your thighs will feel very heavy ---and random normal movements might feel weird/pain around your hips. It makes it difficult to move and people tend to have regrets/second thoughts at the beginning-- but things get better.

If you're doing tibias, I heard the pain is much less

[Kanye Western]

I haven't decided yet whether to do femur or tibia, I'm waiting closer to date to have my consultation then discuss. I heard tibias are easier on pain, but the timeframe of lengthening is extremely slow compared to femurs.

Hey!!! Probably I would take it easy, can do some light stretching and walking but I think its good not be too sore the week right before the surgery. You could try sleeping on your back to see if you can tolerate it, you'll have to for a little while for the surgery until your side wounds heal if you're doing femurs

I think from talking with the Athens patients, its good to have:
- claw grabber thing
- oversized fanny pack/waist bag to hold stuff
- soft ice pads (great for pain, I use it for pain after clicking mostly)

Pretty sure the above is universally helpful, other stuff is maybe more debatable

I'm assuming you're doing femurs with Betzbone

Psychologically, I think the first two weeks or so are difficult because your thighs will feel very heavy ---and random normal movements might feel weird/pain around your hips. It makes it difficult to move and people tend to have regrets/second thoughts at the beginning-- but things get better.

If you're doing tibias, I heard the pain is much less

[lessthanavg8300]

Femurs seem like a no brainer unless you plan on doing both segments eventually.  With femurs there are less complications, its faster lengthening, and the surgery is less noticeable to others.  I think its cheaper too.

[TheDream]

Tibias are more complicated due to the fibular bone and ACL. I would only do them as a second option and max 3 cm to increase probability of a full recovery.

[SpeedDialer]

Yeah its sort of interesting how internal tibias are generally much less painful

Also it seems like the stretching is simpler

On the other hand, someone doing tibias in Athens recently got compartment syndrome (which is supposedly more likely in tibias) and got extreme pain from it

And then the greater risk of non-union I hear?

I remember Dr. Assayag mentioned a bunch of possible complications that are more common for tibias but I forgot the other complications he mentioned 

I heard that for tibias you can get some achilles tendon pain, I wonder if ice packs help for that

[Growth.journey]

Good luck I’m 6cm in with betz and happy. But it’s risky and I’m best outcome so far in my cohort. You need to be at gym everyday when you return.

Happy to answer any questions

[Kanye Western]

That’s fantastic, are you planning to stop at 6cm? Are you able to live a normal life so far?

Good luck I’m 6cm in with betz and happy. But it’s risky and I’m best outcome so far in my cohort. You need to be at gym everyday when you return.

Happy to answer any questions

[SpeedDialer]

Good luck I’m 6cm in with betz and happy. But it’s risky and I’m best outcome so far in my cohort. You need to be at gym everyday when you return.

Happy to answer any questions

That's great! One thing I'm curious about, is your right leg having more issues than the left leg?

I'm doing gnail femurs, at 6 cm now. Every gnail patient I've talked to in Athens has had more problems with their right leg than their left leg (which I assume is from the gnail right leg's big click being more difficult than the other clicks, but I'm not actually sure if that's the reason or false). I'm not sure if this applies to betzbone femurs because betz claims that clicking on his device is a bit easier in general

I do sort of think that at 6cm femurs with a weight bearing nail, life can feel normal-ish. I mean I still use the crutches for walking and I like using the walker for transferring onto the toilet + using the walker on rainy days for the extra stability on slippery ground

[Dralyr]

Why are you writing this already? you could write when you had surgery. Your goal is to win posts. We know you will never have surgery. Also, what is african british? you are just african