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Starting original height is somewhere between 166 and 169 cm, won't say

Paley limits tibias to 5 cm (if you do it one go without a rebreak later), and I think Dr. Nemer in Ukraine limits it to 4 cm tibias recommended --so this is weighing on my mind

But sometimes in Athens you'l have someone to do a bit more, like 5.5 or 6 cm on tibias

I'm not sure how much the following matters, but presumably if someone hasn't fully consolidated yet, it should be possible to go back from 5.5 to 5 cm using precise's reverse ability if anything goes wrong-- so that is comforting, like assuming someone does this in time before its too late

Current plan is to wait one year after I finish my femurs (doing femurs now in Athens) to do tibias later, then try to get to 4 cm tibias, then I'll ask the doctor what factors to look for to figure out when to stop, then possibly do 5 cm, then I'll ask the doctor again for factors to look for to figure out when to stop, etc same thing at 5.5 cm and then not go beyond 5.5 cm unless somehow my range of motion is still great at 5.5 cm 

I'm a bit afraid of a situation where I'll do like 5.5 cm and then use ice / stretching /doctor saying its OK/etc to convince myself its OK when in fact I should reverse and go back down to 5 cm

So I guess the question is aside from pain, what other specific signs are there to look for to figure when to stop? "when the ballerina gets too bad" I guess but I'm not sure when that is

"when there's too much pain" right ->but like there are different kinds of pain

"Kinds of pain:-> so uh what do I mean.. so there is muscle stretching pain, nerve pain, achilles tendon pain, knee pain, they all feel a bit different
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Re: Precise 2.2 Tibias - 5 cm vs 5.5 cm, what are the best ways to decide?
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2022, 09:01:24 PM »

I had the same problems after 5 as I did before 5.  So I don't believe there's a guaranteed way to know if you're doing too much.
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Re: Precise 2.2 Tibias - 5 cm vs 5.5 cm, what are the best ways to decide?
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2022, 08:39:11 AM »

I had the same problems after 5 as I did before 5.  So I don't believe there's a guaranteed way to know if you're doing too much.

What problems did you bump into?

If you went back in time to when you were doing your tibias, would you go with 5 or 5.5 cm?
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Re: Precise 2.2 Tibias - 5 cm vs 5.5 cm, what are the best ways to decide?
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2022, 08:44:27 AM »

I mean I guess there is the option to do like 5cm tibias and then wait 1 year and then rebreak and do 0.5-1.5cm later but that seems kinda frustrating

And Dr. Paley (not my doctor) has the option to do 4cm tibias, rebreak and then do another 4cm and like if he is OK with it maybe its alright but I am still wary of more than 6ish cm on tibias total, not sure how it works out in practice

But there is kind this fear of "even if Precise can reverse, you may not realize the problem in time before consolidation" and "if you go above the recommended limit for a segment, even in two sessions with a rebreak (ex: with the 4cm + 4cm scheme), its really not clear what's going to happen is it?"

There are sort of questions like "do I want to find out what will happen if I go beyond X cm, or do I not want to find out what will happen?"
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Re: Precise 2.2 Tibias - 5 cm vs 5.5 cm, what are the best ways to decide?
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2022, 07:48:34 PM »

What problems did you bump into?

If you went back in time to when you were doing your tibias, would you go with 5 or 5.5 cm?

Pain and stiffness.

Look at 5 millimeters on a ruler.  It's negligible.  That's why my signature is in inches.

There is no valid recommended limit.  It can vary greatly from person to person.
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Re: Precise 2.2 Tibias - 5 cm vs 5.5 cm, what are the best ways to decide?
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2022, 11:05:43 PM »

Yeah hm.. I sort of wonder if it is worth it for most people to just sacrifice that last potential 0.5 cm of the 5.5 cm total for most people to have an easier recovery at 5cm
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