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[digital-insurance]

I am from 3rd world country. I work very hard last few year and live very discipline and save money to go to america with paley.

But my visa application rejected. I tried europe also before but visa rejected because the 3month is too long to visit according to them. I am losing hope.

now my only option is going to india or vietnam or such country but I dont want to go there.

count your blessing. If you are in first world you are much ahead in the game. Just work hard save money and do it with paley or like that. For me saving money not enough because I am not even allowed to america or europe. Privilege matters..

If I knew this before I would imigrate to other country much before and work hard and earn citizen ship. But now time lost.

[Ozzi6557]

Where are you from?

[Medium Drink Of Water]

Hey, I'm from a 1st world country and went to a 3rd world country to get it done.  Dr. Parihar in India will take good care of you.

[ReadRothbard]

You have the money to go with an absolute giant like Dr. Paley, but you're losing hope??

I plan on going to Russia or Italy, but I was also considering Dr. Suhas Shah in India. I'd look into him.

[digital-insurance]

This surgery is very dangerous. I am from 3rd world country I know how bad is it here.

Bad facility

No dignity for patient. I meet one patient here. He told me just before surgery anesthesia doctor was scolding him with anger for doing this surgery. Think about it. You want to consolation before surgery not scolding. During doctor consult he did not get privacy His photo and contact was share with other future patient with out permission

Only external method. External method is full of scar. How will you explain before wedding why you have scar?

They do this surgery very rarely here.Max 1 or 2 surgery per year by doctor.

My dream was to do in america or europe. I work very hard.I save 150k american dollar. I apply for visa its denied. They think I will not come back home. Humiliating experience to explain all this to the visa officer.

[Exxon]

Have you tried Turkey?

[Masteryourlife]

This surgery is very dangerous. I am from 3rd world country I know how bad is it here.

Bad facility

No dignity for patient. I meet one patient here. He told me just before surgery anesthesia doctor was scolding him with anger for doing this surgery. Think about it. You want to consolation before surgery not scolding. During doctor consult he did not get privacy His photo and contact was share with other future patient with out permission

Only external method. External method is full of scar. How will you explain before wedding why you have scar?

They do this surgery very rarely here.Max 1 or 2 surgery per year by doctor.

My dream was to do in america or europe. I work very hard.I save 150k american dollar. I apply for visa its denied. They think I will not come back home. Humiliating experience to explain all this to the visa officer.

Why they perform it if they are against it ?
I believe that a good surgeon should never "push" or market it but if they know they capable of good results and their skills are top notch then no reason to not do this surgery within ethical/safe limits.
In Asia there is dr.Lee btw and visa might be easier for Korea.

Anyway , not to be rude or something but living in a 3rd world country , making 150k and not having a work position that allows you to have the requirements for a tourist/medical Visa ,  it's close to impossible .
I don't even know how you can save 150k in a 3rd world country with regular or even good jobs and NO WAY your Visa could be denied if u are a good surgeon,lawyer ,engeeneer etc.which are the only jobs that MAYBE after MANY years of saving could give you those money..but big MAYBE given the economy's of 2nd world countries ...let alone the 3rd world ones !!

I'm sorry but this story does not seem realistic,  you are lying somewhere or not telling the full story ; Nonetheless good luck with ur future surgery either in Asia ,Europe or USA.

[digital-insurance]

very ignorant comment by you Masteryourlife You must be from a first world country and never applied visa in your life

I did not earn 150k in one year. It took several year and discipline. My peers are buying houses with their money but I am still living cheap. I am considered a bit "rich" in my country.

Doctors engineers can get visa to america and europe. But that is for short travel.Have you heard of any one from 3rd world getting a visa to travel in america and europe for 3month?

One more thing you might not know because you are privileged in passport. They want visa applicants to have job in there own country first. How can you keep job if you are going away for 3month? When they found out I was going to quit my job they became negative toward my application

Even for tourism purpose they give visa only after strict checks (family job income previous travel everything) and that is for 1-2week.

Some doctor even mislead me to apply for a tourist visa for 1-2week and then get surgery. then what happens? Who will take care of me after?

Korea and Turkey are no different. There is a strict boundary between first world and third world countrys. First world citizen can travel where ever he wants for months. Third world countrys are not allowed to.

but anyway I would not go to Turkey for this. In there guesthouse in Turkey they will put dozen patients in the same place. There your privacy goes to 0.

[Masteryourlife]

very ignorant comment by you Masteryourlife You must be from a first world country and never applied visa in your life

I did not earn 150k in one year. It took several year and discipline. My peers are buying houses with their money but I am still living cheap. I am considered a bit "rich" in my country.

Doctors engineers can get visa to america and europe. But that is for short travel.Have you heard of any one from 3rd world getting a visa to travel in america and europe for 3month?

One more thing you might not know because you are privileged in passport. They want visa applicants to have job in there own country first. How can you keep job if you are going away for 3month? When they found out I was going to quit my job they became negative toward my application

Even for tourism purpose they give visa only after strict checks (family job income previous travel everything) and that is for 1-2week.

Some doctor even mislead me to apply for a tourist visa for 1-2week and then get surgery. then what happens? Who will take care of me after?

Korea and Turkey are no different. There is a strict boundary between first world and third world countrys. First world citizen can travel where ever he wants for months. Third world countrys are not allowed to.

but anyway I would not go to Turkey for this. In there guesthouse in Turkey they will put dozen patients in the same place. There your privacy goes to 0.

Lol u are delusional .
I have 2 Visas and I have the one for US for SIMPLE TRAVEL/TOURISM for 3 years and I renew it every 3 years and I'm not someone special ,I just never broke the rules.
I have the other one for Japan and My passport is not from a 1st world country WHATSOEVER ,its not even en european country so you are just talking and makin ZERO sense ,ZERO thinking that others do not know how visa works !

You talking to have some compassion when in reality no visa is just for 2 weeks but they give it for months and then you can stay within those months .
NO visa its "oh you have 1 week or 2 week" .
ALSO you can have you '2 weeks Visa' go in that country , get the surgery and after 3 months leave and "brake the law" . You will simply get "deported" but since you just want to get the surgery and not live there ,why would you bother ?

People who look for compassion are the ones I hate the most ,especially when they are lying.
That said , say whatever you want I don't believe to you , you are just one out of ton of other people here who just want to talk so the ignorant here is you !
Goodluck with this drama , this is the last from my own because it's pointless arguing further , just wanted to let u know that we are not all stupid !

[digital-insurance]

ignore above member.

for anyone else from 3rd world country plan properly. money is not alone enough. What I state are facts. I have applied with full medical documentation and met with visa rejection. They wanted to know so many things about me: marrital status, previous job history, whether currently employed, how I will manage job during 3month travel, will I resign from job, family ties, home ownership

Dont do my mistake. do not assume you will get a 3month visa on a plate and you can travel.

remember:

You will get asked about your JOB. JOB. JOB. JOB.

You will get ask about how you will continue working from different country. It is illegal to go america and work remotely as tourist. You cannot say that.

You will Get ask if you will resign your job

They usually do not give visa if you dont have job and single marrital status.

if I knew I would have imigrate to a different country years ago and earn citizen ship.

Do some research on how easy it is get america or europe visa from YOUR country. if you live in low imigration risk country you will get visa more easy and for 3month or more duration. But its not true for many countrys.

[HateLAPELoveSTEM]

Do you come from China?

[Masteryourlife]

Do you come from China?

China its not 3rd world lol

[Medium Drink Of Water]

By most standards of measurement it is.

[HateLAPELoveSTEM]

By most standards of measurement it is.

Depends on what regions of China you are discussing about if you are talking about metrocities like Shanghai, Beijing and Guangzhou, China really 'is' a 1st world country but if you are discussing about the rest regions then for sure China is 2nd, 3rd, or even worse country thereof.

[digital-insurance]

not from china

I dont want to reveal exact country but its in asia.

my intention to warn others in my situation

look at the colors in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B_visa#Adjusted_visa_refusal_rate

Check where YOUR country is. If rejection rate is high then you will also be like this situation

I was very serious about this. I did a online consult many year ago and was getting prepared. Saving,investing,earning passive income. Becoming fit. Everything. Finally I ready to start my journey. I apply for visa to 2 country with 100% honesty, all letters  required including medical I attached to my application. But staying for 3month+ by a third world country resident in america/europe is suspicious I think. For that long duration visa is hard. You can travel for 2 week quite easy but 3month+, no.

I want to repeat. For getting visa they want to see your job. job. job. job. job. job. job. job. job. job. job. job. job. job in home country

But to do this how can you keep your job in home country? no company will give you 3month+ vacation.

You can think "I will do remote work on laptop from america/europe". But that is illegal to do as tourist visa. So not possible. So you have to admit that you will be unemployed before starting this journey.


Just sharing my experience for other 3rd world country friends.

[OnceADay]

I had the surgery with Doctor Betz and I stayed for 4 weeks (1 week surgery and 3 weeks after) but I think many of the patients have no problem going home 2 weeks after surgery. You shouldn't stay for 3 months because it is very expensive. You can recover back at home.

[ilovescience]

I had the surgery with Doctor Betz and I stayed for 4 weeks (1 week surgery and 3 weeks after) but I think many of the patients have no problem going home 2 weeks after surgery. You shouldn't stay for 3 months because it is very expensive. You can recover back at home.

They stayed home during consolidation phase?

[Medium Drink Of Water]

Hard for me to feel sorry because of this sob story when the reason you're losing hope is that you're acting like a snob.

[zaozari]

This surgery is very dangerous. I am from 3rd world country I know how bad is it here.

Bad facility

No dignity for patient. I meet one patient here. He told me just before surgery anesthesia doctor was scolding him with anger for doing this surgery. Think about it. You want to consolation before surgery not scolding. During doctor consult he did not get privacy His photo and contact was share with other future patient with out permission

Only external method. External method is full of scar. How will you explain before wedding why you have scar?

They do this surgery very rarely here.Max 1 or 2 surgery per year by doctor.

My dream was to do in america or europe. I work very hard.I save 150k american dollar. I apply for visa its denied. They think I will not come back home. Humiliating experience to explain all this to the visa officer.

If you do tibias (probably best for proportions and attraction silhouette) with externals (still the best method for tibias and saffer for more than 5 cm) with modern frames and proper wires, done by a good surgeon, scars won't be big and you can treat them with laser. Also, how would a few points of scars impeach you from getting married?
Second, just do your research. There are good surgeons in Asia with affordable prices.

[digital-insurance]

Zaozari

my tibia femur almost same size so doing tibia is bad idea for proportion. Knee is too much visible while walking and in jeans. hips is not so much visible so femur is better.

scars is not the only problem but if you have change in appearance and proportion and scars then it is suspicious. I seen external scar it is brutal.

and there is less privacy in developing country. I dont know if I already shared this news. One patients photo was posted on face book without his permission. He asked doctor to remove it many times and it was removed. but no punishment for doctor. Face was a bit blur but still how can he post without patient permission?

During consultations many patients cases was discuss in waiting room itself in front of every one. every one in the room knew he was doing this and every one was staring at him.

in early 2000 everything was written on paper so privacy no big concern. But now every thing stored on computer and internet.

I think for best successfull outcome we should do internals in america/europe. Medical safety, dignity of patient, privacy all very important

[zaozari]

Yeah, I understand some of those concerns which I didn't know about.
Just let me add,  I think you must be sure of the lenght and ratio of your bones with Rx. Manual measurements are generally useless and generally short people have relatively also short tibias. Then check if tibias really don't suit you better. Many surgeons agree that they are aesthetically better, long calves are generally elegant. You won't like to be in shorts, on the beach, doing sports, or nked with your girlfriend with the knees too "pushed" towards the ground. Do a good mockup.
Good luck!

[canterk]

for your information. when applying for visa do not say 3 months. you simply go as a tourist, short-term, and then extend your visa once you are there if needed. perhaps the office of your doctor can even help with visa extension.

[digital-insurance]

Canterk

May be that will work but for that you should say lie. You will need to get 2week vacation from your job because during visa application they will ask for this type letter. Apply for visa saying you go for tourism and come back in 2week and show with return ticket hotel booking every thing just for 2week. Then before leaving you will resign your job because you know will not be coming back in 2week. Then  you go get op done and get visa extend. may be you will have to say during visa extension application that you have had accident or something.

So many lies and finally what happen if visa extension rejected?

[zaozari]

Why don't you check in the US embassy if there are exceptions for medical treatments? Many countries grant them. You would need an adequate declaration of the surgeon, of course, and maybe proof of financial resources to maintain yourself and accommodation during the time needed.

[OnceADay]

Yes, everyone that had the surgery around the same time as me all went back to lengthen to their final height and then consolidate