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Canon

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Why is ll so expensive?
« on: April 21, 2021, 11:55:33 PM »

Hi! Stupid question, why is putting 2 nails into a bone so expensive? Except the additional costs for Accommodation or food, I can't under why this surgery should cost 60k for a few hours of operation and a few visits from the dr!?
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Re: Why is ll so expensive?
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2021, 05:01:51 AM »

One of the reasons is how long it takes and how invasive it is.  Lots of work for lots of support staff, plus operating room time.
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Re: Why is ll so expensive?
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2021, 06:21:02 AM »

It's the US healthcare system. These surgeries were meant to be for people who had discrepancies and could use insurance to cover a significant portion of the cost.
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Re: Why is ll so expensive?
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2021, 06:25:21 AM »

It’s not much cheaper in Germany, UK or South Korea though, is it?
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Re: Why is ll so expensive?
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2021, 06:39:16 AM »

Hi! Stupid question, why is putting 2 nails into a bone so expensive? Except the additional costs for Accommodation or food, I can't under why this surgery should cost 60k for a few hours of operation and a few visits from the dr!?

The nails are a monopoly and cost like 20-30 grand

Also Because it’s orthopedic and orthopedic surgery is extremely expensive in the us and other countries relative to other surgery fields

The main reason it’s expensive in the USA is because the hospital fees
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Re: Why is ll so expensive?
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2021, 08:12:51 AM »

Simply doesn't justify the cost of 60k.
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Re: Why is ll so expensive?
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2021, 02:58:07 PM »

OK.  Tell the hospital to pay its nurses less so poor people can get cosmetic surgery.
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Re: Why is ll so expensive?
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2021, 04:03:26 PM »

orthopedic surgeons go to school/training for like a decade to do this. you can actually get LL for cheap, it's by going to a 3rd world country to do it and risk your legs
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Re: Why is ll so expensive?
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2021, 04:17:06 PM »

orthopedic surgeons go to school/training for like a decade to do this. you can actually get LL for cheap, it's by going to a 3rd world country to do it and risk your legs

In the case of Paley it's also that after graduating from one of the best unis, he was a professor for 10 years, on a state wide board of physicians, (co-)authered books, met the legend that is Illizarov, got interviewed by Oprah, published countless of papers, invented literally over a hundred surgical procedures, contributed to the development of the most widely acclaimed nails, saved thousands of legs and also somehow managed to learn six languages along the way.

I know it's expensive, but I am happy to pay the man :D
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Re: Why is ll so expensive?
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2021, 04:42:23 PM »

In the case of Paley it's also that after graduating from one of the best unis, he was a professor for 10 years, on a state wide board of physicians, (co-)authered books, met the legend that is Illizarov, got interviewed by Oprah, published countless of papers, invented literally over a hundred surgical procedures, contributed to the development of the most widely acclaimed nails, saved thousands of legs and also somehow managed to learn six languages along the way.

I know it's expensive, but I am happy to pay the man :D

The work he does for little kids is nothing short of a miracle. There's disabilities that normal surgeons would almost always recommend amputation + prosthetics for kids with messed up legs, but Paley somehow manages to get these kids to a normal functionality with their entire limbs saved as if there was no deformity to begin with. Like you said he invented like 100s of procedures to turn deformities into normal legs. It's nothing short of amazing. Humanitarian-wise, Paley deserves to make millions off his work and he is absolutely justified to charge a premium for his miracle work and caliber of skills.
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Re: Why is ll so expensive?
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2021, 05:22:50 PM »

Paley doesn't even charge all that much more than other U.S. doctors.  The surgeons only personally get a few thousand dollars out of all that.
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