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[Usernam3]

Hello,

I am new to the world of limb lengthening and actually know very little of it. I am a 180cm male that is considering LL due to feeling short. I live in the Netherlands and the average height here is 182cm. I am 19 years old and most of the guys my age are 185cm-190cm. I'd like to gain about 10 centimeters. My stats are:

wingspan: 192cm
Height: 180cm
I don't know how to measure inseam but my legs are relativly long compared to my torso.

I am in doubt between doing LL or a spinal stabilization threatment, since I'd rather boost my torso. I've read about it on a forum dedicated on male atheastics which I will link below if thats allowed.

My main concern is wether or not the doctor would accept me since I am considered tall or well above average in other countries. Also Is my wingspan long enough for 190cm? I've read that your wingspan should ideally be 2 inches longer then your height.

If everything goes as planned I'd do the following sugeries: spinal stabilization threatment for 5 cm and 5 cm in tibia since my femur is already pretty long.

I don't know if race and parental height are also a factor but I will list them incase it is.

Father: 172cm
Mother: 160cm
Race: Mediteranne (turkish and italian).

I'd love to hear what people with greater knowledge then I have to say, but please don't try telling me I am tall enough because I am not.

[permanentlybanned]

Incel site remove thanks

To answer your question, you will not get shït out of that spine thing. LL is the only way for you to get even close to 5cm or 10cm

[Usernam3]

What does incel site means? And can you elaborate why the spinal stabilization threatment wont be effective? Have you read the paper that I linked? I am openminded to doing LL alone, but I doubt 10 cm would be realistic then.

[permanentlybanned]

What does incel site means? And can you elaborate why the spinal stabilization threatment wont be effective? Have you read the paper that I linked? I am openminded to doing LL alone, but I doubt 10 cm would be realistic then.

Please remove that link. modify post

I will read it and return here in a bit

[Usernam3]

Please remove that link. modify post

I will read it and return here in a bit

Okay I have removed it, thank you!

[permanentlybanned]

So there is something called morning height. You are taller in the morning than at evening or afternoon. It is lack of gravity due to laying down by sleeping which decompresses cartilage in the spine. This surgery essentially is done in the very morning right after laying down for a long time then fixing it. This will at most give you the difference between your morning height and evening. With yoga and shît you can make it 4-5cm then do the surgery. This is not a smart thing. This is something along the likes of spinal fusion it seems, aka scoliosis surgery. You are limited in many ways after, physically. Things like bending and tying shoe become risky.

Important part is that you will not "gain" height. You will maintain your maximum morning height. This is 2cm, and 4-5cm at most with extreme yoga assuming proper posture already. Point is- do some yoga and stretch back the max. Then wake up after sleeping long time. That will be your max height after doing this surgery. Yes it's something though.

This surgery essentially maintains morning height. That's all.

LL is real height gain, as bone in the legs and you get much much more.

[Usernam3]

Thank you for your insight! I appreciate it. I agree with you, the reason this surgery apealed so much to me is that the recovery time is so much shorter, also the price is considerably cheap compared to LL. I haven't researched it enough though, I don't know if it will bring complications after and wether or not your mobility will be compromised. I just want to avoid lenghtening my legs as much as possible since I am concerned that after 5cm I will look disporpotional and lose a great deal of my mobility. This surgery seemed perfect, but you've made me realize I should be more critical and research futher. If its indeed the case and I will be limited in many ways after I will have to make peace with doing solely LL.

[permanentlybanned]

No problem

You can honestly achieve something very similar to this by doing yoga daily and inversion table and glucosamine+ chondroitin.

[Unknown]

If you are 180cm and you are feeling short its probably in your head. At that height you are 6 INCHES taller than the average woman in the West, possibly 8 inches taller than any in other parts of the world. There's minimal to no positives in height advantage for you doing this. You are crippling yourself for no reason. Wear a 2 inches lift and u wont ever have an issue with dating caused by your height.

[Usernam3]

If you are 180cm and you are feeling short its probably in your head. At that height you are 6 INCHES taller than the average woman in the West, possibly 8 inches taller than any in other parts of the world. There's minimal to no positives in height advantage for you doing this. You are crippling yourself for no reason. Wear a 2 inches lift and u wont ever have an issue with dating caused by your height.

Thank you for your imput, still gonna go for 190cm 

And sure 6cm femur and 3.5cm tibia with stryder method will cripple myself, if anything males that are taller are better canidates and are less of a risk.

[Zion]

Jesus 180cm wanting to do LL. I guess I cant really judge, problem I see is that you want 10cm and your femurs are already too long. Perhaps your best shot is 4-6cm tibias and call it quit. Your wingspan is very very good even if you achieve 190cm somehow.

[VeteranLL]

You have already got a great initial height. do only 1 segment 5-6 cm max. and thats it.
Do better research. Youre wasting your time doing 1cm. In my opinion its stupid.
You will los so much athletic ability.

[tallmen]

You already have long tibia and femurs so you can easily go 8 cm on femurs and maybe 6-7 cm on tibia. I'd suggest start with femur 8 cm and then if you feel you want more you can go for tibia. 195 cm is a good goal for that wingspan.

[Sibirskiy]

I read your post and understand your predicament. My suggestion to you is lengthen 1 segment at a time meaning please dont do cross lengthening...tibias probably better for you since you mention ur femurs are longer.

Wingspan 192 cm is excellent. You may be pleased with your proportions. I was 176 cm, wingspan 185 cm, now im 184 cm in height and am very pleased with wingspan height ratio.

Most Western doctors should accept you, I think some Russian doctors may accept you too at that height though I cant be sure

I think you may be pleased with tibias if you add more than +5.0 cm. Understand, your tibia is longer than most people considering LL hence if you use the "+10% = low risk, 10-20% = medium risk, >20% = high risk" rule (which my doctor used) , then you should still be in low-medium risk if u add more than 5 cm. If u already happy after tibias, u may not even want femurs done

[Vibes]

Go for it man. Lots of crabs in a bucket mentality here. Just make sure you split it among both segments and don't do anything foolish aka pick a good doc and don't distract too fast.

IMO you are the perfect demographic from this. Young, already a solid height (more preexisting bone means less overall ratio of bone lengthened), and good wingspan to match that amount of lengthening.

Be safe. But go for it.