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 Hello guys, how do you do?
I am a 20 year old male 167 cm (5'5.7 ) and I have been interested in LL for quite a while, but since I don't plan to undergo a surgery anytime soon I never actually considered being part of a forum. Well not until I got this question in my head.

We all know that it is believed that short people live longer. The reason for this has to be a gene that protects us from the effects of ageing, according to a quick Google search. But I was wondering about the heart. The fact that it pumps blood through the veins nonstop 24 hours during the whole life should cause heart tiredness. So by increasing the height, by stretching the muscles, aren't we increasing the amount of work the heart has to do during our lifetime? This should lead to heart problems, shouldn't it?
Don't get me wrong, I would gladly sacrifice a couple of years from my life in order to be 10 cm taller, with a condition that those years are in the old age 

Pardon me if it is a naive question : Not a doctor.
Pardon me if I made any grammar mistakes: Not my first language.

[Overdozer]

You won't live longer. LL is a huge stress for your body. In fact, you may die right on the operating table, when undergoing the surgery. Who cares anyways? Living 50+ is not living. Living in regret isn't too.

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Hmmm I don't know of any patient who died during LL. But yeah, it's a huge stress and its theoretically possible to die . Anyway I never said I would do it in the old age, that was mostly a joke!

[Medium Drink Of Water]

Nobody knows for sure.

[Greek-Semidget]

exclude you freaked out this guy, no-death has been caused from LL so far. its another major surgery. I think you may live longer if two identical guys in lifestyle, genes, nutrition
..had just height difference. But thatd impossible, in fact a healthy lifestyle can expand your living period, but why thinking of death when you are still alive?

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Well of course i'm gonna think about death when I'm alive, I cant think about it when I'm dead  My question actually was if by performing LL we are reducing our lifespan? But probably this should be the least of worries...

[endomorphisme]

i wondered the same question op, i hope LL does not increase the risks of heart diseases 

[Taller]

LL might reduce life expectancy, but future medical advancements might still increase it. And you might get hit by a truck or asteroid, or die due to some other non-LL related factor right after recovering. There are so many variables involved that we don't know about that it's impossible to answer your question. Medium Drink of Water is correct.

[Uppland]

How might LL reduce life expectancy, is there any proof that say it might?
Because if that's a risk I think potential patient deserve to know about it.

[Taller]

The stress the body endures in building new bone and making its soft tissue adapt to it after puberty may have an effect on life expectancy. No studies have been done in this area and anything you hear regarding the effects of LL on life expectancy is speculation at best. The long term effects of bilateral cosmetic lengthening have not been extensively researched in a meticulously scientific fashion. In many cases, case studies, theories from doctors and patients, and general educated guesses are the best sources of information we have to go on. 

As Medium Drink of Water simply but wisely put it, nobody knows for sure. But that applies to a lot of medical knowledge outside of LL too. I am in a medically-related discipline myself and would like to say that you'd be surprised by how much people think they "know" in this field when in fact this knowledge is on the brink of being altered by new studies, experiments, and discoveries.

[LittleWhiteMan]

I guess it does not affect our life expectancy, depending on how much stress you actually applied to your body. Let's have it like this, I have met this tall mexican guy who played basketball in my school, during his development he managed to break his knee in some way. It was so bad that it stopped growing and they had to limb lengthen his legs in order to make them be paired. He was growing excessively! He might be like 6'5" right now idk. My point is, we are not the first persons doing LL, and LL is also done in dwarf persons, kids who get their knees plates broken, or any person in general who breaks their legs. However, I guess it depends more on how much STRESS you applyz If you go from 5'8" to 5'11", if much 6'0" probably there wasn't much stress done. But in my case, if I am willing to go from 5'1" to 6'0" them my body won't even support it and I might die right away after the treatment is done. Probably I am exaggerating but it does depends on how much you are forcing your body to grow is what I mean. If yo uchoose to grow 3-4 inches then probably you aren't harming that much your body. Also, the younger you are, the best. Why? You produce more HGH during your youth years, even if you are done growing like me, you keep producing a lot of HGH. It will start to decrease during your mid-late 30s though so just be sure to do LL as soon as possible that is why I want to do it now that my plates have been right away closed... but I am still hoping for a miracle (yeah sure...)

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Uppland, there is not proof, its just common sense. Breaking your bones, creating new tissue and torturing yourself for months will definitely change the way body works. Let alone complications that might rise..

[Greek-Semidget]

I think that all this thing about stress to body from LL is just bull . I think the main factors are :a ) blood circulation may be diminished from extreme amounts of lengthening b) too much pills with lead to poor immune system c) phycological stress can have adverse effects to the body

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This topic's worth further discussion.

[MakeMeTallAF]

I think it may decrease life expectancy. Hear me out, when you lengthen your limbs, your heart has to work harder because now you have more vascular tissue. So perhaps this can lead to CVD in the future.

Not 100% sure though, can someone ask one of the doctors in a consultation what effect limb lengthening would have on life expectancy?

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I think it may decrease life expectancy. Hear me out, when you lengthen your limbs, your heart has to work harder because now you have more vascular tissue. So perhaps this can lead to CVD in the future.

Not 100% sure though, can someone ask one of the doctors in a consultation what effect limb lengthening would have on life expectancy?

No need. They most likely won't admit it even if it's true.

[Polvorón]

I think it may decrease life expectancy. Hear me out, when you lengthen your limbs, your heart has to work harder because now you have more vascular tissue. So perhaps this can lead to CVD in the future.

Not 100% sure though, can someone ask one of the doctors in a consultation what effect limb lengthening would have on life expectancy?

Most of the work of heart is to feed our internal organs, brain takes a lot of blood, so if you use it too much... are you shortening your life? Bowl takes a lot of energy in generating new cells, bone is creating new bone continuously...

I think that CLL doesn't affect life expectancy, it is a old procedure and people sometimes break their bones.

[MakeMeTallAF]

That's true, I actually have no clue if it actually affects life expectancy.

I think if we asked a doctor like Franz who no longer does CLL, then we might get an actual answer. He has no reason to lie because he has no skin in the game anymore.

But to be honest it's possible not even the doctors know because there aren't really many long term studies on CLL.

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Something to think about, it's gonna damage our body one way or another. Without the surgery, our prolonged depression will shorter life expectancy too.

[TruthBomber]

Hello guys, how do you do?
I am a 20 year old male 167 cm (5'5.7 ) and I have been interested in LL for quite a while, but since I don't plan to undergo a surgery anytime soon I never actually considered being part of a forum. Well not until I got this question in my head.

We all know that it is believed that short people live longer. The reason for this has to be a gene that protects us from the effects of ageing, according to a quick Google search. But I was wondering about the heart. The fact that it pumps blood through the veins nonstop 24 hours during the whole life should cause heart tiredness. So by increasing the height, by stretching the muscles, aren't we increasing the amount of work the heart has to do during our lifetime? This should lead to heart problems, shouldn't it?
Don't get me wrong, I would gladly sacrifice a couple of years from my life in order to be 10 cm taller, with a condition that those years are in the old age 

Pardon me if it is a naive question : Not a doctor.
Pardon me if I made any grammar mistakes: Not my first language.

You will live shorter, because being a short male adds unnecessary cortisol and stress which shortens lifespan and increases suicide risk.

[Polvorón]

So if you do CLL, learn to relax first and problem solved.

People sometimes break their bones, and there are no studies about lifespan shortneing.

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So if you do CLL, learn to relax first and problem solved.

People sometimes break their bones, and there are no studies about lifespan shortneing.

People break their bones, but they don't lengthen their bones artificially and stretch the soft tissues unnaturally.

[Polvorón]

But bones are regenerating all the time, they are not static, and stretching is a part of being healthy.

If CLL shortens the lifespan, it would be already known, because it has been done since a lot of decades. It's an old procedure, it wasn't developed yesterday. People had accidents before CLL, and bones had to be fused carefully.

I don't feel CLL as "unnatural", I think that is a feature of our bones.

[MakeMeTallAF]

That's true, I agree with Polvoron here.

Thinking about it CLL doesn't really change that much in your body except your soft tissue is stretched a bit more and you have more bone. That itself shouldn't change life expectancy significantly.

The leading causes of death are cancer, heart disease, alzheimers etc. CLL doesn't really affect any of these. The only thing I can think of is the amount of X-rays you take may give you an increased risk of getting cancer. After the LL process it would probably be smart to go get a full body scan done to check for any potential life-threatening damage done to your body.

The other thing I can think of is inactivity due to stress on joints, that can lead to a shorter lifespan. But I think if you lengthen within the safe limits this shouldn't be an issue. Another might be arthritis which can lead to inactivity, but I feel by the time we are older arthritis will be cured. Duke has already created synthetic cartilege which can work in the knees, so it's only a matter of time really.