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[bobythebrave]

Hi, I have tried to find the good informations before resolving myself to post there, the reason is that there is a lot of conflicting infos given and I would like to be sure on this as this is a very serious intervention.

So I am a 25 years old guy at 172cm, and I would like to go over 180cm+ by doing 2 interventions (femur and tibia).
I heard that external procedures might be less estheticly pleasing because there are some scars (tbh it's not a big deal for me) but they are mostly safer because they prevent some pain complications you could have later on in your life (because of the less intrusive method) and also they are more flexible depending on when you want to stop etc. Is this correct ? Thanks

I also heard by doing external tibia you don't want to go over 5cm or you could face multiplied risks of complications. Also I heard that for external femur you don't want to go over 6cm as well for same reasons. Is this correct ? Thanks

Considering this and depending on your answers, do you think going for a 5cm external operation on tibia and a 6cm external operation on femur is a relatively "safe" LL procedure ? That would be put me at 183cm which is plenty enough for me, I could settle myself for even less if it's actually still not in the safe 'area'.

Thanks, hope you can help me sort it out !

[Bander72]

Both are safe amounts but you have to do internal femur. External will be too painful.

[bobythebrave]

Ah okay didn't know internal femur method evolved, it seems better than it used to be ! Does that mean that I can also safely pull 8 cm for femur using the 'new' internal method instead of external as I was planning ? Thx

[Bander72]

8 is a lot but 6 is definetly doable. Perhaps with the new precise coming out it will be easier to do 8.

[bobythebrave]

Alright I will stick to 6 then, you seem experienced, do you know by any chance some fitting doctors for the kind of operation I am asking  ? Just a little list of the bests for what I am looking for (double operation with internal femur/external tibia). I will then study the list and see precisely who is the most interesting for me.

[Bander72]

For external catgni in italy is good 20k only you have to be in frames for close to a year. You could do the hybrid method of lengthening with frame then having nail inserted in russia for about the same price. For femur depends on your budget. Rozburch and paley the best in the world are close to 100k while dr pili in italy will charge 50k. All these mentioned are good doctors top tier.

[bobythebrave]

Thx for the precious informations, so there is no good doctor doing both in the same hospital? It's a bit scary to have to go to two different places :-/
Also is Russia safe for thoses kind of operations ? I mean I know there might be some good doctors over there but Russia is a hard country, I am afraid to be scammed if I don't speak russian.

[Bander72]

Pili trained with catgni so you would be in more familar settings there. You bring a good point on russia. Which is why I like dr barinov becuase he will allow you to stay in his.clinic that is well secured during your stay. There are many diarys in the forum and Ive been in contact with them throguh email.

[bobythebrave]

Okay that's cool you can stay on the secured clinic, that makes it less scary for a total stranger to Russia 
Anyway for a guy coming from Belgium like me, I guess the most logic call would still be to go to Italy and do the operations with doctor Pili/Catgni. I guess it's not possible to do both operations at the same time right ? That would mean I have to stay ~1,5 years consecutively in Italy to do both operations, that's a bit tough, I better be prepared ...

[Knik]

Wow, two new guys from Belgium. What happened ?

[bander72.]

I think is safe:
7,5 cm femurs
6 cm tibias

[The Dreamer]

All things that you have written arise from the lecture of forum's posts and empirical results of operations.They should be right but notice that there aren't safe limits:it seems that genetics establish which ammount our tendons and soft tissue can hold up.
However doing 2 LL is too risky in my opinion,also 1 LL is basically a gamble