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Mtall

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Consultation with Dr. Parihar
« on: October 22, 2016, 05:06:27 PM »

Hey guys.
I'm a male, currently 5'5" in the morning and around 5'4.80" in the evening. I'm in my 20s.
I'm going in for a consultation with Dr. Parihar next week. I'm interested in doing 5-7 cms on the femurs with the Precice 2, later sometime next year in 2017.

I'm currently quite satisfied with most aspects of my life; I don't think I've ever been disrespected because of my height and since I'm anyway quite a docile guy who never gets into arguments or fights, I've never thought my height to be the cause of a problem in my inter-personal relations.

However, women are very important to me. I have had a lot of hook ups and a couple of good girlfriends too, but what I notice is that all the girls I've been with are 'good', but none of them have been those 'elite', 'top rung' ones.
Another thing I'm concerned about is, I will most definitely not have a very large dating pool if I move to the West. I'm okay with being short, but not so short that girls in most countries are taller than me.
My facial looks are good, my personality is good, finances are very good and everything else about me is pretty set.
Height is my Achilles heel, and I'm not going to do nothing about it when something like LL exists.
I've never been told by a girl in my country that I'm too short for her, but I've been rejected by a few really hot ones, and height is possibly the only reason I can think of as being responsible for that, because as I said earlier, pretty much everything about me is above average.

I've also been told by a few relatives who live abroad that my height could be a disadvantage career-wise. As sick as it sounds, it might actually be true.

That apart, I also don't want to spend the rest of my life thinking "what if I had done LL, would I have been better off, would I have had this or would i have got that".

Anyway, I work full time and I'm going to quit my job before the surgery. When and where I start working after my recovery is complete will be decided at that time. I'll leave it to fate.

Anyway,  getting past the introduction.... I'm going in for a consultation with Dr. Parihar next week. If you guys have any specific questions that you might think will benefit the forum, post it now.

I will keep the forum updated with my consultation and when I start my LL journey, I will also keep a diary.
That's my way of paying back the forum for all the knowledge and support I've got to help me finally come to the decision to fix this problem in my life.

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Re: Consultation with Dr. Parihar
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2016, 05:23:56 PM »

If you could ask him what is his experience or thought about the notion that came up here a few times that at a taller starting height (and thus longer legs) the lengthening is easier for the soft tissue because the % of bone lengthened is less with taller people.
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Re: Consultation with Dr. Parihar
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2016, 05:35:33 PM »

I'll be very interested in your diary since you're doing the same as I did. You'll be fine :) I think you should at least aim for, if not go for 3".

Oh, and glad you haven't felt awfully short at 5'5 in India cause that's where I'm headed lol.
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Re: Consultation with Dr. Parihar
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2016, 05:45:00 AM »

I'll be very interested in your diary since you're doing the same as I did. You'll be fine :) I think you should at least aim for, if not go for 3".

Oh, and glad you haven't felt awfully short at 5'5 in India cause that's where I'm headed lol.

Yes, I'm not going to exaggerate the problem just because I'm doing LL.
At 5.5 in India, height will not be a primary concern in your life, and you probably won't think of it everyday like you did when you were 5.2.
I have a high probability of living the better part of my life in the West, that's one of the main reasons I'm doing this. If I was set on India for the rest of my life, I wouldn't have had considered this surgery.
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Re: Consultation with Dr. Parihar
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2016, 05:53:00 AM »

I would love living in the East, I am bored of West culture.
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Re: Consultation with Dr. Parihar
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2016, 04:48:16 AM »

Notes from Consultation

So my consultation is done. After months of reading about him, it was a good thing to finally be sitting across the table and talking to Dr. Parihar.

Points I noticed about Dr. Parihar:
1.   Straightforward and no-nonsense type, he won't bs about anything to you
2.   May come across as aloof in the start, but warms up once the conversation progresses
3.   He doesn't try to "sell" the surgery to you. In fact, he continuously questioned my beliefs about how life will be after I become taller, asked me what if my expectations are wrong, etc etc.
4.   He really knows his stuff, he came across as pretty confident and knowledgeable.

I landed up at the clinic at around 5 PM, and was taken to Dr. Divya's room first. I had to introduce to him what I was there for, and he asked me how I came to know about the surgery, what research I've done, and basically wanted to see whether I know what I'm getting myself into. We talked about how height affects success with women (Dr. Divya pointed out some celebrities who were my height, and asked me if I'm sure height was really causing a problem or it was just my imagination).

Dr. Parihar and I also had an extensive debate on whether I'm right in worrying about my height affecting my success in women. But I told him my other concerns as well (moving to the West, career aspects, etc). In the end, I think we did finally reach a middle ground on the impact my height is or could have in the future.

I was clear to both Dr. Divya and Dr. Parihar that I only wanted 5-6 cms.
I also assured them that my parents will be in on this, because they both said that it is required for them to know.

Both Dr. Divya and Dr. Parihar did not have any specific comments on the forum, but cautioned me against taking medical advice from anyone here, saying people either overstate problems or understate them.

I asked a whole lot of questions, which are listed below with the answers I got from Dr. Parihar. I think he was slightly amused that I was asking so many questions, because he asked whether I'm really a college student, or a PhD researcher. Lol :D  I don't blame him, because I just went on and on, from one question to another.

Here's the Q&A:
1.   Since I have a slight case of bowlegs, I asked if femural lengthening would worsen the condition. He said it won't, especially considering I'm doing only 5-6 cms, and even if it did, it can be simulated on a computer and preventions can be done. Nothing to worry about.

2.   I asked about lingering and permanent pains like screw pains and rod pains, and he said I shouldn't worry about it if I'm doing only 5-6 cms. These problems usually come with insane amounts of lengthening.

3.   Permanent pains should not happen, if you keep to safe lengthening limits.
Once the lengthening phase is over, the pains & aches reduce drastically; they may come & go here and there, but after full recovery you shouldn't feel anything. You could expect come-and-go aches & pains for upto a year post-op.

4.   Dr. Parihar inserts the nail from the hip. He said he could do it from the knee also, but prefers not to.

5.   The main painkillers they prescribe immediately after the surgery are Ibuprofen and Nimesulide.
After that, Paracetamol or Ultracet is prescribed. He hasn't come across a patient till now that has needed stronger than this.
About pain, he said that there's a line to draw between "no-pain" and "tolerable pain", but anyway, he said not to worry so much about the pain, and not to try and micro-manage it. We'll take it as it goes, he said.
None of his patients have ever gotten so bad with pain that they said "I wish I never did this".

6.   I asked him about how to determine whether your bones are strong enough for LL, and he said that through the blood tests, they will know how your general health is; and if your general health is good, your bones should be good too.

7.   With the Precice nail, he doesn't see a chance of losing height already gained.

8.   My worst fears were confirmed when he said that the catheter, in most cases, is required and non negotiable :( He said that this a serious surgery and they need to monitor you so they need the catheter in.

9.   IT Band Release: He said that he will make an on the spot decision towards the end of the surgery as to whether to release the IT band or not, but will most likely do it.
He said that if he has a doubt on whether to do it or not, he would go ahead and do it, so he would err on the side of release.

10.   Rate of lengthening: 1 mm per day, could come down to 0.75 mm depending on how my body reacts.
The lengthening from start to finish is more or less continuous, but some lengthening holidays could be granted here and there, if there was excessive pain.

11.   If the lengthening had to stop on any one leg, for any reason, they would rebreak my femur at a slightly different location and restart the lengthening.

12.   Costs: 9,00,000 INR from the hospital's end plus the cost of the Precice 2 nails (which is subject to the exchange rate)

13.   I also asked him what I could do to make it easier for me, and since I have at least 6 months to go, he said I should start stretching and working on my flexibility.
Flexibility is always a good thing for LL, he said.

I hope this contributes to the knowledge of this forum. When I start my LL journey, I will definitely write a diary too.
Special thanks to KiloKahn and Penguinn for introducing this doctor to us.
I feel this consultation was a watershed moment; now I know that I'm 100% doing it, and I'm already on the way. Some lose ends in life need to be fixed first, but I'm reasonably sure about doing this sometime next year. Exactly when, I can't say, but this is a given now: MTall needs those 5 cms. Period.
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Re: Consultation with Dr. Parihar
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2016, 05:43:45 AM »

Awesome that your consultation went well. My experience was similar, my initial consultation confirmed that I was indeed doing LL.

I'm confused about the IT band answer, "towards the end of the surgery" meaning the entire experience or surgery? Far as I can remember, he said usually IT band releases are not necessary.

I know you're worried about the catheter because I was too when he said it had to go in, but you don't even feel it. They put it when you're fast asleep and when you wake up there's zero pain there. You just awkwardly see your urine pass without your full control. When it comes out, it's unpleasant but doesn't really hurt.

If I may ask, why are you doing only 5cms? That seems like such a waste with Precice. Of course 2" are better for proportions and recovery than 3", but since you're already getting into it, why not get the extra inch you can gain safely?
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Re: Consultation with Dr. Parihar
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2016, 05:50:06 AM »

1. Towards the end of the operation

2. I only need 2 inches more. Moreover, Dr. Parihar himself said it's a reasonable goal which will ensure full recovery and a life without persisting pains.

I also wanted to ask you, since I forgot to ask this: do you pay Precice directly or through Dr. Parihar ? How much including the deposit did you finally end up paying? In dollars, not rupees.
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Re: Consultation with Dr. Parihar
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2016, 06:01:18 AM »

Separately. Total was 35-36 lakhs but minus the deposit around 32, that's $47K.
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Re: Consultation with Dr. Parihar
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2016, 09:03:32 AM »

Separately. Total was 35-36 lakhs but minus the deposit around 32, that's $47K.

No, no. I meant in dollars terms, how much did you have to separately pay the Precice manufacturers?
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