Limb Lengthening Forum
Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Discussions => Topic started by: LittleWhiteMan on August 29, 2014, 05:50:43 AM
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I am 155 cm right now, I always wanted to be 180 at least but we never get what we wish. I was thinking if it was possible to get to at least 175 cm through LL? Is it? And if so, how many time should I expect to get out of the treatment? 8 to 12 months? Is it possible in 9 months?
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:o, its possible but don't expect a healthy life after
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If you want to look like a spider and most likely be hurting and maybe not even walking properly for the rest of your life because of this radical medical experiment then sure, maybe it's possible. That's assuming everything goes well throughout the process. It will also take YEARS. Apotheosis lengthened that amount at a taller starting height and is still not fully recovered after four years.
Leechlet started at around 160 and lengthened 10 cm, in my opinion he already looks disproportionate because of his low starting height and small frame.
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It's possible. Just expect a very long recovery time with intensive physiotherapy.
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It's possible. Just expect a very long recovery time with intensive physiotherapy.
and to walk like an amputated giraffe, also 9 months? It will take 2 years of lengthening, twice as much of consolidation, and u won't be able to run till 6-8 years POst Operation
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As much as I'd like to see this just out of curiosity it would look terrible. The most natural looking lengthening I've seen has been 10cm all up in tibs and femurs and they didn't go more than 5 cm
past their wingspan.
The irony of LL is the taller your starting height and wingspan the more you can lengthen which is why
the 170cm and up crowd tend to look better after LL.
Leechlet would look better if he would have split the 10cm but now he can't really do his tibs as its way
too much. He had a skinny build to start with so LL was going to look more obvious.
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Can't compare LittleWhiteMan to Apo, as he's just 16 years old. He can expect to consildate and recover much faster. 30cm lengthenings are done constantly on short stature patients, adults and they recover fully. I really hate how everyone likes to talk out of nothing here.
Leechlet would look better if he would have split the 10cm but now he can't really do his tibs as its way
too much. He had a skinny build to start with so LL was going to look more obvious.
Have you even seen him? Shyshy* has done 9cm and only proportion-obsessed maniacs would notice and call him disproportionate. Why would he split it into two surgeries, if he can get the same amount in one, with less money and time and no need to trauma the other leg segment?
*I meant Andrewshizzles, Shyshy has done 7.5cm.
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The thing about congenital short stature (dwarfism and the like) is that these people often have disproportionately short appendages to their torsos. For the general population, there is definitely reason to stay within a reasonable amount. I agree many femur patients here look really good, but if you were to see them either nked or in person doing stretches with the shin behind the thigh or bends that involve a lot of movement in the legs, you might be more inclined to realize something a bit off. Having the extra length in the femur definitely looks stealthier though.
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Of course it is possible but it will take you a very long time and a lot of money.
But just think how you would look like with that amount of LL, with such a short torso and 100lb at 175cm? I don't think you will look like normal person or maybe I'm wrong. Post a picture of yourself so we can help more.
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Watch out for proportions! Body frame, head size, wingspan and sitting height should be considered when lengthening more than 10cm.
20 cm is possible but requires tremendous amount of time and energy. Such extent maybe be detrimental to your health in the long term. Maybe you can try and aim for 170cm or less. Then with shoes you would be around 5'8. You can also add lifts in your shoes. The added height will definitely give you a confidence boost. Remember that lower lengthening = higher chances of safe recovery and may lower the chances of developing complications in the long term. This is the reason why most doctors recommend lower lengthening limits. But unfortunately there are not much studies (if any) that shows the long term effects of LL.
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Do 7.5 cm then after look into if you want another one. You are gonna have to go that route wether you like it or not.
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I won't spend such amount of money in dumb surgeries just to be taller, I actually think height is a dumb thing to worry about but everyone on earth cares about it for some fking reasn, especially women. Anyway, my sitting height is 79 cm while the rest of my height is 76 cm. My head circumference is around 22 inches I am guessing. Swingspan is around 5'2"-5'4". Shoe size 6 1/2, hand length 6.7. My lower body is pretty unproportionate. Btw weight has nothing to do with it, I could get taller and gain weight afterwards, anyhow there is nothing wrong with 102 lbs. I know someone who is 5'11" and weights 105 lbs. I also have a friend whose sitting height is like 82 and he is like 182 cm tall; he doesn't seem unproportionate actually lol but he is actually pretty sturdy perhaps thats why.
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Maybe your target should be something between 5'7 and 5'9 this way you won't put too much pressure on you and probably increase your chance to make the good decisions while lengthening. Like you said it's just a stupid number.
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Yes thats what I mean 20 cm, to be around 170-175 cm, I don't wanna be 180 (I wish but I would stick with 173 cm). My father is actually 168 cm so if I was just a little bit taller than him would be alright
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Yes thats what I mean 20 cm, to be around 170-175 cm, I don't wanna be 180 (I wish but I would stick with 173 cm). My father is actually 168 cm so if I was just a little bit taller than him would be alright
Exactly. 173 is doable. I think 171-173 is pretty much the same.
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May I ask how old are you? and where are you from?
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I think 20cm for most people is not possible. I think with a starting height of 5'1" you'll be lucky to hit 5'6" or 5'7" and look normal. But I think that a couple inches makes a big difference so I'd be very happy to end up at 5'7"
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Apotheosis of old forum did it. I don't k-now how it turned out completely since his face was concealed but he looks normal from what I can see.
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May I ask how old are you? and where are you from?
I am 16 years old, I am from Mexico but my genetic compose isn't that of a "mexican", I actually have French background and my family is quite tall. My leg bones, however, are done growing so if I ever grow the only growth I may expect would be from my back (but I doubt it).
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I don't think you're done growing yet. Men typically grow until they're 18-21 years old (For women typically it's between 16-18 years old. That's why they hit puberty earlier than boys do, and thus causes the height discrepancy between the genders that leads to teenage boys who begins having feelings of inadequacy as the get older). I myself was shocked to see I had grown when I went to the doctor at 21 years old and saw that I was nearly an inch taller than what I was at 19 years old. And I'm positive that at 19 years old I was taller than I was 16 years old.
You've got time. Wait until you're 20-21 years old before going forward with this. Though I wouldn't rule out saving up as early as possible. This way you're ready sooner than later if you decide to go through with it.
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To OP have you had an x-ray to confirm that your plates have fused?
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I don't think you're done growing yet. Men typically grow until they're 18-21 years old (For women typically it's between 16-18 years old. That's why they hit puberty earlier than boys do, and thus causes the height discrepancy between the genders that leads to teenage boys who begins having feelings of inadequacy as the get older). I myself was shocked to see I had grown when I went to the doctor at 21 years old and saw that I was nearly an inch taller than what I was at 19 years old. And I'm positive that at 19 years old I was taller than I was 16 years old.
You've got time. Wait until you're 20-21 years old before going forward with this. Though I wouldn't rule out saving up as early as possible. This way you're ready sooner than later if you decide to go through with it.
There's a good chance he is. It's very common for boys to finish growing at 16. Generally speaking, you'll finish growing when your 15-18 and if your not, you'll almost always have a good idea of your final height will be.
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I am 16 years old, I am from Mexico but my genetic compose isn't that of a "mexican", I actually have French background and my family is quite tall. My leg bones, however, are done growing so if I ever grow the only growth I may expect would be from my back (but I doubt it).
beg you man fix your spine issue you may get 4 inches taller just from fixing your severe scoliosis!! :D
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I am 155 cm right now, I always wanted to be 180 at least but we never get what we wish. I was thinking if it was possible to get to at least 175 cm through LL? Is it? And if so, how many time should I expect to get out of the treatment? 8 to 12 months? Is it possible in 9 months?
It is totally possible, but prepare for rocky balboa-level training to get back to normal! With Dr. Guichet, Betz, or Rozbruch, you could probably achieve about 10 cm of bilateral lengthening per segment in about 7-8 months before getting back to normal. You'll have to return after recovery for the next 10 cm on you other leg segments. All in all, it'll be about 14-16 months before you are fully-recovered.
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I won't spend such amount of money in dumb surgeries just to be taller, I actually think height is a dumb thing to worry about but everyone on earth cares about it for some f**king reasn, especially women. Anyway, my sitting height is 79 cm while the rest of my height is 76 cm. My head circumference is around 22 inches I am guessing. Swingspan is around 5'2"-5'4". Shoe size 6 1/2, hand length 6.7. My lower body is pretty unproportionate. Btw weight has nothing to do with it, I could get taller and gain weight afterwards, anyhow there is nothing wrong with 102 lbs. I know someone who is 5'11" and weights 105 lbs. I also have a friend whose sitting height is like 82 and he is like 182 cm tall; he doesn't seem unproportionate actually lol but he is actually pretty sturdy perhaps thats why.
Amen to this, my brother! I love my height of 5'7; I think 5'8 is the perfect height. But, I want to be a respected physicist and lady-killer, so I've gotta break my bones and get growing.
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to me recovery is when you can walk unaided thru the mall normal speed.
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Are people mostly doing the surgery where it takes 9 months and they put rings around your legs?
Or are people doing the one where they shove a pencil-sized cylinder in the bones and it expands from within your legs?
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GTFO of here.
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20 cm? Seriously?
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I mean, it is ambitious, but it's not impossible. He's going to need an iron will to achieve it, though. But, he'll be a new, well-respected man at 5'9 when he's done!
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Man, if you "don't care" about your height then why are you even on these forums?
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Hey, if your not going to help why bother commenting mate? I realise this was an old thread but my god are people judgemental, the man asks for help and some of you just take the piss, 20 cm is clearly achieveable, is it gonna be difficult? Yes, even remotely close to impossible? No. Its going to take alot of effort and patients along with a good doctor and money but you will be able to, it might be too late but keep your head up high and just have hope man.
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It is achievable but you'll end up a cripple or someone with very limited functionality.
If someone does not want to walk again he could lengthen even 25 cm.
There is nothing to do with effort or good doctors and all these bs.
A good doctor won't let you lengthen even close to that amount (15 cm max and even that is much) and no matter what effort you put the harm in soft tissue and the destruction of biomechanics would be enough to never walk normally again or even not walk at all. I am not even saying about sports abilities which would be a joke.
So don't speak about things you don't know and have normal expectations or you'll end up a cripple.
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Hey, if your not going to help why bother commenting mate? I realise this was an old thread but my god are people judgemental, the man asks for help and some of you just take the piss, 20 cm is clearly achieveable, is it gonna be difficult? Yes, even remotely close to impossible? No. Its going to take alot of effort and patients along with a good doctor and money but you will be able to, it might be too late but keep your head up high and just have hope man.
Feasible yes, sensible no. The worst complications of LL has been seen after lengthening big amounts such as 20 cm. Think how many people you've heard of surviving well a 20 cm increment. Also, you will definitely mess up your proportions.
This is your health and mobility you are talking about, you have only seen the positive side in such a dangerous procedure. That might some day cost you all.
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Fair enough, but what about 15cm? Because my legs are short and my wingspan is 175cm even though im only 165cm
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You can lengthen 20 cm without crippling yourself, see Apo case. It's just that you have to go slow with the lengthening. In fact you can lengthen more like many dwarfs do, like 30+ cm over several surgeries (for example, lengthen femurs by 7.5 cm, then in a year lengthen tibias by 7.5, then again do femurs 7.5 and finally tibs 7.5). You obviously don't want to lengthen that much because of body proportions.
15 cm is max I'd recommend, but again proportions. Unless you have noticeably very short legs to torso, limit to 10-12 cm divided 4-6/5-7 tib-fem to be safe. Again, not everyone can take even 10 cm of lengthening as we all start out with different proportions (SH/H, ape index). Taller patients most definitely shouldn't go over 10 cm, as they statistically have lower Sitting Height/Height ratio (relatively longer legs to height/torso)*.
* http://adc.bmj.com/content/90/8/807
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Yep, I agree with Overdozer, though instead of doing 7.5 / 7.5, maybe it would be better to do 8 / 7 as femurs tolerate better the lengthening. However, 15 cm is on the border of safe limits + proportions limits. 12 cm - 13 cm, 7/6 would better for recovery. I don't see too much of a difference between being 177 and 180. However, the difference in recovery of every cm is very big.
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Well I have a 175 cm wingspan considering my height is 165cm but my legs look short so proportions dont scare me, in fact it will make me look better than I am now. Any idea how long recovery takes for 15cm - 18cm if I were to do both in the same year?
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proportions dont scare me, in fact it will make me look better than I am now.
They might not scare you now and the second part could be wishful thinking and rationalization. You should listen to my advice.
Recovery is individual. And there's also difference between full consolidation and recovery. You may consolidate 15 cm in 1.5 years, 2 or 3 or potentially never (in case of nonunion). For recovery just multiply your consolidation time by 2 or 3.
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what is your pant inseam?
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what is your pant inseam?
32"
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32"
i was asking giorgi lol
my bad
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:D 32"
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:D 32"
You have a 32 inseam at 165cm? Sorry man but it means you are long legged short torso. You can forget about 15cm
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:D 32"
yeah dude you have very long legs for your height.
I am 179 cm and wear only a 30 inseam
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my bad, here its a little different meassurment. My pants are EURO 76cm.
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Whats a 179cm guy doing on this forum considering you have perfect height?
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Nobody is happy with what they've got :(
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Whats a 179cm guy doing on this forum considering you have perfect height?
Its the same with rich people wanting more money. others may say they got a perfect amount of money but some rich people want more.
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I know what you mean but when your a guy and under 170cm it is really difficult, even more since I live in Ireland and the average is 178- 180cm. If I was average height I would have never found out about limb lenghthening.
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I know what you mean but when your a guy and under 170cm it is really difficult, even more since I live in Ireland and the average is 178- 180cm. If I was average height I would have never found out about limb lenghthening.
I agree with you and so do many others. If I was average height I probably wouldn't be here.
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The problem is that we less than average say "if only we were average". Then the average height guys say "I want to be tall to have the benefits of being tall". Then the tall guys say "My family are taller than me" "The people I am with are taller than me", etc etc.
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The problem is that we less than average say "if only we were average". Then the average height guys say "I want to be tall to have the benefits of being tall". Then the tall guys say "My family are taller than me" "The people I am with are taller than me", etc etc.
I know what you mean, but people who consider leg lengthening are a minority. Especially those near average height. short people just want to be normal so it makes sense why they would consider it but average height people or above considering this surgery doesn't make sense to me. Even if their family is taller than them, they are still within normal height range so going out in public they should feel normal.
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Too much spare time in their lives, I mean like if I did not have issues with everyone towering over me I would not waste my time here. And 179cm is considered tall enough in many places.
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LOL Sure there are these idiots in one of the threads here who want to be 200cm! and their starting height is 190cm,
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Whats a 179cm guy doing on this forum considering you have perfect height?
if its so perfect, why are you risking more to reach 183+? Why is your goal not 179 cm??
I am doing this surgery for 3-3.5 cm external tibias with Dr. Salameh
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4 cm internal femur with Dr Paley
to reach 182.5-183cm. Yes the very same height that you also want to be.
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