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Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Discussions => Topic started by: Limd on April 27, 2024, 12:40:03 PM

Title: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: Limd on April 27, 2024, 12:40:03 PM
I underwent bone lengthening in Vietnam.

I listened to their instructions and extended my treatment, but I am still suffering from complications.

Currently negotiating with Tao to use the 10 year warranty.

But when this topic became more concrete, he started ignoring me.


It's been 4 days now. (A friend of mine said that when he sent it, he got it back within seconds.)


I will keep track of whether they honor the 10-year warranty contract.
Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: lucindaris on April 27, 2024, 07:03:54 PM
Which doctor and how many years past the surgery? I was thinking of Dr Doan.
Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: Hldrive on April 28, 2024, 12:39:47 PM
Hello, may you please share more details.

What exactly happened, what complications did you suffer from?
Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: Limd on April 29, 2024, 08:13:42 AM
Hi

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=6558
I took it at the same time as him.
Dr Doan has a good reputation.
Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: Limd on April 29, 2024, 08:17:40 AM
Hello, may you please share more details.

What exactly happened, what complications did you suffer from?


Yes, I will write details about whether they will properly apply the 10-year warranty.


However, it is currently quite underrated.

They ignore me when it comes to specific dates.
Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: lucindaris on April 29, 2024, 09:21:54 AM
But this guy is a Japanese who did surgery in Korea not Vietnam.
Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: Limd on April 29, 2024, 11:20:56 AM
But this guy is a Japanese who did surgery in Korea not Vietnam.

This person underwent femoral surgery in South Korea.


He had surgery on his tibia in Vietnam and has been in a wheelchair for two years due to a nonunion.

For a year, the Vietnamese side did not admit that he had nonunion.


his x
https://twitter.com/meichanpokemon
Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: lucindaris on April 29, 2024, 05:17:42 PM
Oh wow. Thank you for clarification man. But it's different clinic than dr doan?
Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: Limd on April 29, 2024, 05:26:31 PM
Oh wow. Thank you for clarification man. But it's different clinic than dr doan?

The doctor you are talking about is a doctor from Hanoi, Vietnam.

Not Ho Chi Minh


Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: Hldrive on April 29, 2024, 08:28:37 PM
This person underwent femoral surgery in South Korea.


He had surgery on his tibia in Vietnam and has been in a wheelchair for two years due to a nonunion.

For a year, the Vietnamese side did not admit that he had nonunion.
What?

I'm confused. So he had surgery in Vietnam and had nonunion. And than he went so SK to get femur lengthening without fixing tibia??
Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: Beemer m3 on April 29, 2024, 11:48:41 PM
I think the Dr lengthen too much n he has complications now and is from ho chi Minh city. Now he wants more pt for the time he has messed up.
Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: Limd on April 30, 2024, 06:32:23 AM
What?

I'm confused. So he had surgery in Vietnam and had nonunion. And than he went so SK to get femur lengthening without fixing tibia??


I think the flow of how he was able to treat the tibia is also written in X.

Maybe he doesn't write to LL Forum either?

Or just ask him directly
Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: Limd on April 30, 2024, 07:50:45 AM
I think the Dr lengthen too much n he has complications now and is from ho chi Minh city. Now he wants more pt for the time he has messed up.

I think the Dr lengthen too much n he has complications now and is from ho chi Minh city. Now he wants more pt for the time he has messed up.

Yes, that's right.

I've been troubled by this issue for several years now, and dealing with them has been mentally exhausting.

This is not a surgery that should be taken lightly due to the low price.

Since it is a difficult surgery, it may be difficult to ask them to use Korean technology.

I wish they would at least be honest about their 10-year warranty and the promises they made.
Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: Beemer m3 on May 01, 2024, 08:26:07 AM
im not sure if getting a warranty from your doctor would be the answer if hes ducking u. maybe go to dr doan in ha noi and ask him what he thinks. i hear he can cut ur tendon on the ballerina foot to make ur feet more stable or cut the knees tendon so u can bend the knee better.
Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: Limd on May 01, 2024, 10:56:45 AM
im not sure if getting a warranty from your doctor would be the answer if hes ducking u. maybe go to dr doan in ha noi and ask him what he thinks. i hear he can cut ur tendon on the ballerina foot to make ur feet more stable or cut the knees tendon so u can bend the knee better.

Thank you for your advice.


When they continue to ignore my agreement (I have set a deadline)


I will consider your opinion as one of the options.


I feel like they only respond quickly when it's convenient for them, and they procrastinate when it's bad. (Previously, I was told to wait two weeks for a reply.)

Eventually one week


I should have taken it when the doctor's name came up first when explaining...
Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: Limd on May 04, 2024, 05:12:06 PM
It's been over two weeks since I sent my question.

However, he didn't even look inside, let alone reply.


I originally told them last year that I was going in June, and they asked me to contact them a month in advance.

Then, two weeks ago, I sent a text requesting that they cancel their schedule for a moment, and I received a reply right away.

They are quick to respond when it comes to their convenience.


After that, I thought I was going to Vietnam, so I sent him a LINE message to that effect, and he just read the message and ignored my messages from then on.

 
I sent you a message again, so I'll write if there's anything else.




http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=21905
He is posted like this by a patient who had a previous problem, but there is no action at all.

What the previous patient did may have been true (ignoring the interaction)
Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: Limd on May 05, 2024, 07:18:20 AM
I got a LINE message with just one sentence.

As I thought, they told me about my weight (the part that was convenient for them).


Finally they have started ignoring me again.


For now, I'll send a message to her to clear her schedule in August.


Isn't his method of leaving only one sentence and acting as if he's taken care of it very malicious? >:(

I wonder if I'll get another message in a few weeks... :'(


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P.S. Marked as read
Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: Limd on May 05, 2024, 07:46:48 PM
For now, I have decided to set a deadline of the end of August.

Because I also have to work to make a living.


It was originally scheduled for June, but when it came to specific dates, they ignored it.

If they treat patients like this, it's natural for them to go to another hospital.

It's the same as abandoning
Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: Limd on May 06, 2024, 06:22:29 AM
Mr. Tao contacted me.

Last time I sent him a message, he responded and took it seriously.

During my conversation with him, I realized that since I communicate in English using a translator, there were some parts that I couldn't convey properly.


However, when I complained that the response was too slow, I feel like they took it seriously.


He also suggested the best course of action for me.


This time, I'm in a situation where I can't go unless I reply to him.  :o


After I informed them properly, they took care of it, so I feel at ease now. :-*


I will also report on the progress.
Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: Beemer m3 on May 06, 2024, 07:36:42 AM
i kind of have a hard time reading your post too. alot of this and that that doesnt make sense sometimes. good luck on what u need to get fix.
Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: Limd on May 06, 2024, 10:43:38 AM
i kind of have a hard time reading your post too. alot of this and that that doesnt make sense sometimes. good luck on what u need to get fix.

Next time, I will review it properly and post it. :'(

Thank you for letting me know. I appreciate your kindness. :D
Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: shortking on May 06, 2024, 02:04:33 PM
lol @ warranty. Humans aren't cars
Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: Limd on July 31, 2024, 03:32:50 PM
It's been a while since I posted

It was said that Tao would respond in July, but this promise was broken one day before I left for Vietnam.

Tao is not feeling well, so it seems that he won't be able to take care of it until next year.

Three days ago, they said they would prepare visas and tickets, but this is why they are unable to do so.

I quit my job because of this.

I told them the month I was going a year in advance and let them decide on the date, but they broke their promise one day before.

As expected


He proved that everything I had written about him was correct.

By the way, they saw LL Forum's post and were told that if they did it again, they would remove the compensation because it violated the terms of the contract.

Therefore, my 10-year warranty will be invalidated.

I don't care if a contract is invalidated because it is not followed...


It was just a report.
Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: Limd on August 25, 2024, 05:47:23 AM
I contacted another hospital and asked them to tell me the type of nail because they were going to remove the intramedullary nail in my foot (because I needed to confirm the driver).

But they haven't heard from me in over a month.

Also, although we explain to patients that the nail material is 100% titanium, it actually looks like stainless steel rather than 100% titanium.

This is thought to be one of the reasons why it is not taught.

They don't care about the patients and end up running away from responsibility for the after-effects.

Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: Bagga on August 28, 2024, 01:14:55 AM
I contacted another hospital and asked them to tell me the type of nail because they were going to remove the intramedullary nail in my foot (because I needed to confirm the driver).

But they haven't heard from me in over a month.

Also, although we explain to patients that the nail material is 100% titanium, it actually looks like stainless steel rather than 100% titanium.

This is thought to be one of the reasons why it is not taught.

They don't care about the patients and end up running away from responsibility for the after-effects.
why so persistence?
move on and search for other LL doctors.
Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: Limd on August 28, 2024, 06:13:32 AM
persistence?

Personally, I am already moving on to the next step after this incident.

They don't contact me (from the other side)

However, after I started suffering from the after-effects, I believed them and waited for nearly four years. Four years were wasted. 

Naturally, my anger is not going to subside any time soon, and I am reporting my interactions with them as they are so that more people don't get fooled like I did.

Isn't this the kind of place?
Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: Limd on August 28, 2024, 06:25:24 AM
I have a Vietnamese intramedullary nail in my foot.


To remove a nail, you will also need a special screwdriver suitable for that nail.

Which do you think is less likely to cause an infection: opening the legs with a scalpel and examining the screwdriver from scratch, or knowing in advance and preparing for it?


I won't allow them to operate on my leg anymore, but I would like them to at least give me information about nail care and try to ensure patient safety.


I think this will also be helpful for those considering surgery in Vietnam.

and

So I think I won't be posting about them as often anymore.


They have given up communicating with patients and will no longer interact with them.

If you are interested in this information, please contact us.

I will answer where I can.

After that, I will write if there is any information I can share with you in order to fix it.

I wish you all success.
Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: Limd on September 06, 2024, 10:22:06 AM
I went to a famous Korean clinic for counseling. Test results.

There was a 1cm difference in leg length.

Before bone lengthening, there was a leg length difference of approximately 0.2 to 0.3 between the femur and lower leg.

The length of the lower leg was made uniform by surgery.

Therefore, the leg length difference at this point should be 0.3 to 0.4 of the femoral leg length difference.

However, in reality, a leg length difference of 1 cm is more than 0.3 larger than the leg length difference before extension.

In other words, the stretched side has shrunk by nearly 0.6 cm. When they saw me walking, they immediately said, ``That's strange,'' and ``Maybe my legs are different lengths,'' but I was surprised to find that the difference was only about 1 centimeter.

A friend of mine who underwent bone lengthening in Vietnam also had his bone lengthened in one leg, and his bone shrunk by nearly 2 centimeters.

However, his bone formation was abnormally poor, and at the time I thought that was the reason for his shrinkage.

As expected, there was a problem with Vietnam's technology.
Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: Limd on September 06, 2024, 10:22:38 AM
Also, I was told that the intramedullary nail was pretty bad. Normally, I use a 9mm to 14mm intramedullary nail depending on the patient, but it would be nonsense if I used the same nail for my body type.

i will report if i am able to confirm this through excision surgery.
Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: ekero on November 18, 2024, 09:36:48 AM
Hey man, i hope your doing well. I have a question, your friend who also had surgery in Vietnam, what clinic did he perform it at?
Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: GrowGrow123 on November 18, 2024, 11:23:02 PM
Lol never heard of a surgeon offering a "10 year warranty".
Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: Limd on November 19, 2024, 05:46:07 AM
I don't know much about my friend's case, but the hospital where I had the surgery is linked below.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/ferj5W1owPRF8bv99

According to a Taiwanese friend of mine, this hospital does not have a doctor who performs bone lengthening procedures.

I think they are just renting space.
Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: Limd on November 19, 2024, 06:02:47 AM
Lol never heard of a surgeon offering a "10 year warranty".

It is a company that provides bone lengthening as a service that tells patients it has a 10-year guarantee.

Surgeons are only employees and are not involved in management.


Apparently there are other branches, but the one I took was in Ho Chi Minh (I asked Tao about the branch. I don't know if it actually exists)

Doctors are employed, but the company can only provide one doctor, and if the doctor quits, the service ends.


I had a revision surgery done elsewhere, but the moment the surgery was successful, they lied to me, the patient, to cover up their mistake.

Information will be released at that time


If the information is not disclosed by next year, please consider my revision surgery a failure lol
Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: Mordans on November 21, 2024, 11:22:23 AM
Your feedback scares me a little.
I’m supposed to have the operation in December in HCM.
Should I cancel and go to another clinic?

By the way, which surgeon do tao work with?

Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: Limd on November 22, 2024, 08:47:47 AM
Your feedback scares me a little.
I’m supposed to have the operation in December in HCM.
Should I cancel and go to another clinic?

By the way, which surgeon do tao work with?



It's all true

My leg has not healed for four years.

This condition is due to the surgery I had in Ho Chi Minh City.

And they did not know the cause of this complication, and in the end did not fulfill the guarantee written in the contract.

I was planning to quit my job and go to Vietnam this year to have the revision surgery, which was the guarantee for the complication.

I am writing a record of that time in real time.

Three days before the date of my departure, Tao said he would get a visa for me, but he did not contact me until the day before, so when I asked him what was going on, he said he could not help me.

I even quit my job to have this revision surgery.

He does not care about the patient's life at all.


Check out their homepage for the doctor

There is only one person
Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: lucindaris on November 22, 2024, 10:50:54 AM
Work for a few years more and get it done with a reputable good doctor in 1st world country.
Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: href on November 24, 2024, 03:45:01 AM
It's concerning to me that the doctors have done an abysmal job of communicating with you since I was planning on going to Dr. Quynh/Tao for my surgery.
Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: Limd on November 24, 2024, 08:24:37 AM
It's concerning to me that the doctors have done an abysmal job of communicating with you since I was planning on going to Dr. Quynh/Tao for my surgery.

The reason I chose Vietnam was because of the 10-year guarantee that other hospitals do not have.

However, we know from this incident that they will not comply.

The left leg is shortened even though the length should have been the same.

The reason is not clear, but it may be because the nails you are using are dull.

They said it was made in Finland and is 100% titanium when I received it, but no matter how I look at it, it just looks like stainless steel.

It is better to have someone show you the actual product and see what will be used on your feet.

However, a Taiwanese acquaintance who had previously gone on a tour did not want to see it (because it was a trade secret :o).

In this case, I was appalled at their dishonest response.

I will undergo revision surgery at another hospital in December, but I will have to remove the inner nail first.

So I sent a message asking them to at least tell me the shape of the nail bolts, etc., but they didn't even reply.

To find out, the doctor has to check the driver while performing the surgery.

The risk of getting an infection increases.

I'm disappointed in them.
Title: Re: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh/Tao/Quinn/10 years warranty
Post by: wantingtobetaller on November 24, 2024, 10:42:52 PM
Lol never heard of a surgeon offering a "10 year warranty".

Ikr 10 year warranty what the heck...