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Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Discussions => Topic started by: shortisnotfun on April 18, 2024, 02:42:04 AM
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As you guys might know, I completed 5cm on my tibias with a monolateral method.
During surgery, the doctor woke me up (yes, he woke me up when I was under anesthesia) and informed me that my bone canal was too narrow and a nail wouldn't fit, so I would be lengthening without one. (I later learned from another doctor this was most likely a lie, and Dr. Yuksel probably didn't measure my bone canal properly, or he didn't have the correct size intramedullary nail to put in) (What type of doctor is he?!).
You can see it with the x-ray attached here, there is a hole where he drilled into my bones, put in a nail, realized it didn't fit, and took it out.
https://ibb.co/7bqBLHv
During lengthening, I noticed both of my legs becoming more crooked as the lengthening progress went on. I constantly told Dr. Yurttas about my issue worried it was going to lead to x-legs, and he told me not to worry, it would be solved after the removal, when the tension from the fixator goes away. (I believed them, worst mistake ever.)
Notice how my leg is bending:
https://ibb.co/Ps2G3Yp
After removal of the fixator I had, I woke up with the worst pain I ever experienced, but I managed. Over the days after the fixator removal, I noticed I still had bent legs and knock knees. Every time, I asked the doctor, he would say it's normal and will go away with physical therapy.
I believed him, as it looked straight from the x-ray they take just of my tibia. (You need to get a standing x-ray from your hips to your ankle to actually check if your entire leg is straight).
My knock knees wasn't getting any better so, I went to go get a standing x-ray in the hospital that Yuksel Yurttas operates in. After that, I went to see Yurttas in his office, who was extremely busy. He was constantly on his phone while speaking to me and barely spoke to me. I asked him if my standing x-ray was straight, and he basically LIED and said it was. I took a picture of my standing x-ray.
You tell me if it's straight or not:
https://postimg.cc/xN3jgBc7
After seeing my standing x-ray, I emailed multiple doctors from the US, to Greece, to South Africa, to even doctors in Istanbul. They all informed me that I had Genu Valgum (x-legs) from a bone deformity caused by incorrect nail placement during surgery.
I then asked to see Dr Yuksel Yurttas again. I wanted to see what he would do to fix it, or if I would even allow this man to touch my legs again after he gave me crooked bones.
I waited an hour outside his office in the hospital until he got out of surgery. He came and didn't even look at me. He basically wanted to go home and didn't want to speak to me and I got a very rude vibe from him.
I went inside his office after that and spoke to him about my issue. I informed him I don't trust him anymore to touch my legs and I wanted him to pay for a correction surgery for my legs. He informed me that I didn't do enough physiotherapy because my ankles were stiff (what does that have to do with my knock knees?!). He was yelling at me, in a very harsh tone, and acting very disrespectful. He kept moving in circles and then getting in my face constantly. He treated me like I was a child.
He then told me how he would fix it. He would REUSE the same nails and put it back in my bone and align it again. First of all, I know this is not how you correct a deformity, you need an Ilizarov frame during surgery to correct malalignment, not just a nail placement and "good enough". On top of that, he wanted to REUSE the same materials. I'm not getting a bone infection because I let him touch my legs again with the same equipment, hell no.
I told him I'm not doing any surgery with him anymore, and he didn't account for my mechanical axis during surgery, causing me my bent legs.
He stormed out of his office suddenly and left.
I walk now, but my knees bend inwards constantly. My thighs touch each other and it messes up my walking not to mention looks absolutely terrible. What's the point of doing LL if you have crooked legs?
Conclusion:
Stay away from Dr. Yuksel Yurttas, he is not qualified to be a limb lengthening doctor. He left me and another friend with bent legs, nerve problems and multiple issues, and REFUSES to take any acknowledgment.
Basically,
I did a LON Tibia surgery, I got x-legs, because the Dr Yurttas didn't properly plan the surgery out. He lied to me saying my bones were straight, and now I need another surgery to fix a problem I should have never got.
X rays of procurvatum:
https://postimg.cc/WFr1qdjs
https://postimg.cc/rRkF1qFx
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Another patient that Yuksel Yurttas has crippled:
https://youtu.be/31t8CafApwc?si=k0WDE4W7esUk8PPH
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if u used ilizarov circular frames they straighten ur legs . im not sure about monorail frames but yeh ilizarov frames are good at times.
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if u used ilizarov circular frames they straighten ur legs . im not sure about monorail frames but yeh ilizarov frames are good at times.
It was monorail. Yuksel Yurttas doesn’t have the skill nor the experience to put on circular frames. And even if he did, he’d still f’u’ck it up as he’s crippled 20+ patients.
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Another patient that Yuksel Yurttas has crippled:
https://youtu.be/31t8CafApwc?si=k0WDE4W7esUk8PPH
This guy is a moron who keeps getting botched whereever he goes. He should have stayed well away from orthopaedic surgeries and focused instead on fixing his subhuman looking face.
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This guy is a moron who keeps getting botched whereever he goes. He should have stayed well away from orthopaedic surgeries and focused instead on fixing his subhuman looking face.
Yes, he needs to pick his doctors properly! Not Yuksel Yurttas!
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He did a jaw surgery in India
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Every time I watch that footage brings shivers down to my spine. Looks brutal AF.
Which segment he did and what method? What was the reason for his terrible outcome? Looks like nerve damage or even worse.
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Every time I watch that footage brings shivers down to my spine. Looks brutal AF.
Which segment he did and what method? What was the reason for his terrible outcome? Looks like nerve damage or even worse.
He did LON Tibia but Yuksel Yurttas cheap equipment broke and he got disabled and got nerve damage.
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It was monorail isn't it? Ilizarov on tibia is by far superior next to TSF frames for external tibia lengthening. Why do they use monorail on tibia in Turkey IDK.
So, if the device didn't malfunction, he would be fine then?
I hope that pure external tibia with decent frames won't be an issue as that's what I'm going to do in about a year.
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It was monorail isn't it? Ilizarov on tibia is by far superior next to TSF frames for external tibia lengthening. Why do they use monorail on tibia in Turkey IDK.
So, if the device didn't malfunction, he would be fine then?
I hope that pure external tibia with decent frames won't be an issue as that's what I'm going to do in about a year.
Well tbh it’s not really about the monorail it’s that Yuksel Yurttas doesn’t know how to properly insert a nail. Starting point is too low on the tibia and there are no blocking screws which is a mistake even a juvenile doctor wouldn’t make. Be very careful of going to these Turkish butchers! They are criminals!
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So the problem was doing LON in the first place then. Of course it requires much higher precision and expertise to insert internal nails and that's why it's better to do pure external for tibia and somehow endure being in frames for about a year.
Regarding Turkey, what do you think about doing PRECICE femur there with a doc who has a proven track record of performing it?
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So the problem was doing LON in the first place then. Of course it requires much higher precision and expertise to insert internal nails and that's why it's better to do pure external for tibia and somehow endure being in frames for about a year.
Regarding Turkey, what do you think about doing PRECICE femur there with a doc who has a proven track record of performing it?
Exactly. You need a skilled doctor to do LON, not a hack like Yuksel Yurttas and the other Turkish butchers. I regret going to Turkey, as Yuksel Yurttas and the other butchers are garbage conmen.
Precice Femur is an better choice than tibia, but if you do it, don’t do it with Yuksel Yurttas, or any of the other Turkish butchers!
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Well, I'm going to go with a doc who does external tibia for decades. He is specialized in corrections and deformities so I guess I will be fine doing pure external tibia with him and if I get misalignment during the distraction phase, he will be able to correct it before my bones fuse.
Turkey is a mixed bag when it comes to surgeries. There are many clinics and they advertise like crazy. It gives the country the bad rep for doing LL there, although, I believe that not all LL docs are bad there though. One needs to research a lot before pulling the trigger.
In terms of safety, pure external tibia with sturdy frames (not monorails) with the ability for corrections is the best bang for the buck with an experienced surgeon. 2.5-3 inches can be done if one is really short and after that, it's better to grind the money like crazy and save for internal femurs with decent doc rather than cheap out and do LON femurs in Turkey and play Russian roulette.
After all, 3 inches from tibia is not a joke as it adds significant height and makes one appear even taller than he is. For guys between 5'5-5'8, that additional 2.5-3 inch boost from tibia is life changing and they can always wear 2 inch elevators after that to stand even taller until they get enough money for internal femur.
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Well, I'm going to go with a doc who does external tibia for decades. He is specialized in corrections and deformities so I guess I will be fine doing pure external tibia with him and if I get misalignment during the distraction phase, he will be able to correct it before my bones fuse.
Turkey is a mixed bag when it comes to surgeries. There are many clinics and they advertise like crazy. It gives the country the bad rep for doing LL there, although, I believe that not all LL docs are bad there though. One needs to research a lot before pulling the trigger.
In terms of safety, pure external tibia with sturdy frames (not monorails) with the ability for corrections is the best bang for the buck with an experienced surgeon. 2.5-3 inches can be done if one is really short and after that, it's better to grind the money like crazy and save for internal femurs with decent doc rather than cheap out and do LON femurs in Turkey and play Russian roulette.
After all, 3 inches from tibia is not a joke as it adds significant height and makes one appear even taller than he is. For guys between 5'5-5'8, that additional 2.5-3 inch boost from tibia is life changing and they can always wear 2 inch elevators after that to stand even taller until they get enough money for internal femur.
Yes, you need to choose a good doctor who is specialized in deformity correction. Not a butcher like Yuksel Yurttas who gives multiple patients chronic pain, deformities, and nerve damage! Yuksel Yurttas is a butcher, and the worst surgeon in Turkey! He needs to be in prison!
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You can’t trust these Turkish surgeons! They are born liars and are super arrogant! They need to be in prison for crippling more than 20+ patients! Yuksel Yurttas is a professor in Turkey which just shows you how bad the education system in in Turkey if this butcher is teaching classes!
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You shouldn't have done monorail tibia at all cost. It causes misalignment of bones and is not appropriate for corrections. That's why they only use it for humerus and femur. For tibia, only viable choice is TSF or Ilizarov frames because with the use of them, doctors are capable to correct any misalignment during and after the distraction phase.
You have to fix your misaligned bones before you move on with life. Contact doctors in Russia or other place where they routinely perform corrections and get it done to avoid further complications.
Tibia lengthening requires extensive experience in deformity corrections so if a doctor is incapable of correcting deformed tibia bones, you should avoid him at all cost. I guess that Yuksel guy is incapable of that, otherwise he wouldn't be performing tibia lengthening using monorail device in the first place.
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You shouldn't have done monorail tibia at all cost. It causes misalignment of bones and is not appropriate for corrections. That's why they only use it for humerus and femur. For tibia, only viable choice is TSF or Ilizarov frames because with the use of them, doctors are capable to correct any misalignment during and after the distraction phase.
You have to fix your misaligned bones before you move on with life. Contact doctors in Russia or other place where they routinely perform corrections and get it done to avoid further complications.
Tibia lengthening requires extensive experience in deformity corrections so if a doctor is incapable of correcting deformed tibia bones, you should avoid him at all cost. I guess that Yuksel guy is incapable of that, otherwise he wouldn't be performing tibia lengthening using monorail device in the first place.
Yes, it will be fixed with doctors in America. I regret going to Yuksel Yurttas, the butcher. Who butchered multiple patients because he is money hungry and doesn’t know how to properly insert a nail in. Of which I am still suffering to this day!
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I have been following your experience and sorry that things have not gone well, I am hoping that your legs get sorted.
Please can I just ask - you said on a previous post that Giotikas could/would be correcting your legs, here you say you are going to the US to get them corrected. Did you decide not to go with Dr Giotikas and if so why not?
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I have been following your experience and sorry that things have not gone well, I am hoping that your legs get sorted.
Please can I just ask - you said on a previous post that Giotikas could/would be correcting your legs, here you say you are going to the US to get them corrected. Did you decide not to go with Dr Giotikas and if so why not?
Giotikas claimed he could, but not much changed with his approach. Meaning whatever he did was unsuccessful. The only way to properly correct a bony deformity is a TSF frame, which Giotikas claimed he didn’t need.
This is why you need to be very careful of the orthopedic doctors you choose. A junior doctor studying orthopedics in the US wouldn’t make the same mistakes Giotikas and Yuksel Yurttas made!
Although the bony deformity was created by the butcher Yuksel Yurttas, Giotiaks claimed he could fix it without a TSF frame, which turned out to not be true. Even a junior doctor studying at ICLL would know that! Why does a patient know more than a surgeon??
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For anyone reading this thread if you have been crippled by the butcher Yuksel Yurttas:
Dr. Assayag is the doctor you need to see. Dr Assayag is one of the greatest LL specialist doctors, and will properly fix you up.
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How did Dr. Giotikas explain correcting your Genu Valgum and procurvatum deformity without using TSF?
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How did Dr. Giotikas explain correcting your Genu Valgum and procurvatum deformity without using TSF?
He said he would take the nail out, put blocking screws, and correct it from there! It was unsuccessful and he also claimed my right leg didn’t have an issue! (Which I later found it does as well)
As you can see from my x-rays he only tried correcting my left leg because of that! (And charged me for both!!!) (Only my left leg has blocking screws)
https://postimg.cc/xN3jgBc7
Although my main issue is with the butcher Yuksel Yurttas, I don’t think that even Dr Giotikas has a clue about deformity principles, because even a junior doctor wouldn’t make those mistakes!
Another patient on this forum had the same issue with procurvatum and tried to get it fixed with Dr Giotikas, and it was unsuccessful. I wish I had seen his post before I went to Giotikas!
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He said he would take the nail out, put blocking screws, and correct it from there! It was unsuccessful and he also claimed my right leg didn’t have an issue! (Which I later found it does as well)
As you can see from my x-rays he only tried correcting my left leg because of that! (And charged me for both!!!) (Only my left leg has blocking screws)
https://postimg.cc/xN3jgBc7
Although my main issue is with the butcher Yuksel Yurttas, I don’t think that even Dr Giotikas has a clue about deformity principles, because even a junior doctor wouldn’t make those mistakes!
Another patient on this forum had the same issue with procurvatum and tried to get it fixed with Dr Giotikas, and it was unsuccessful. I wish I had seen his post before I went to Giotikas!
I was wondering why blocking screws are only used for the left tibia, and your explanation made it clear.
In my opinion, I think it should be possible for a skilled surgeon to perform deformity correction using nail changes and blocking screws, but it seems that Giotikas had difficulty with this.
Please take care.
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...Another patient on this forum had the same issue with procurvatum and tried to get it fixed with Dr Giotikas, and it was unsuccessful. I wish I had seen his post before I went to Giotikas!
Do you have a link to this other patient post?
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Do you have a link to this other patient post?
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=64280.msg164727#msg164727
Sure, it’s the third and seventh reply:
suddenurge:
“Doctor Giotikas said that TSF frames were not necessary, he would fix it with corrective surgery. It turns out that this was not true. If Doctor Giotikas had delivered what he promised, I would be satisfied. But he didn't.“
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Skilled surgeons can correct procurvatum deformity (of course depends on how much procurvatum you have) with internal nails (very well known surgeons told me this).
Good luck, hope you'll find the right surgeon who can help you.
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Skilled surgeons can correct procurvatum deformity (of course depends on how much procurvatum you have) with internal nails (very well known surgeons told me this).
Good luck, hope you'll find the right surgeon who can help you.
Procurvatum can only be corrected (when the bone is healed) with a TSF frame gradually. The reason is because of the nerves around the tibia.
You can lose the sensation of your feet (nerve damage) if you do an acute correction with a nail or a plate! This is due to where the nerves are around your tibia. If it is corrected acutely, then the nerves around the tibia are pinched. There is no guarantee that there won’t be nerve damage!
This is what the butcher Yuksel Yurttas has done to me. I will get this fixed with an American doctor but it’s so sickening how these Turkish butchers lie, cheat, and scam their way out of situations.
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Yuksel Yurttas is a criminal doctor, constantly crippling patients, giving them bone infections, and refuses to take responsibility. Do not trust your legs with these Turkish butchers. Yuksel Yurttas is probably the worst doctor in Turkey!
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Another patient that Yuksel Yurttas has crippled:
https://youtu.be/31t8CafApwc?si=k0WDE4W7esUk8PPH
Wow...this video gives me chills..
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That guy in the video is a joke TBH. Dude was 5'11 morning height and instead of fixing his hair or physique, decided to lengthen his tibia with the worst method possible (monolateral fixators) to gain 2 inches of height.
He was also fked up getting clavicle lengthening surgery with Eppley. Said in one of his videos that the left clavicle simply popped out of alignment and now suffers with shoulder mobility issues.
Also did facial reconstructive surgery with some Indian surgeon and got fked up with that too. Didn't get the result he anticipated.
IMO he should have focused all his money and effort fixing his hair and face and not bother with limb lengthening and clavicle lengthening.
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That guy in the video is a joke TBH. Dude was 5'11 morning height and instead of fixing his hair or physique, decided to lengthen his tibia with the worst method possible (monolateral fixators) to gain 2 inches of height.
He was also fked up getting clavicle lengthening surgery with Eppley. Said in one of his videos that the left clavicle simply popped out of alignment and now suffers with shoulder mobility issues.
Also did facial reconstructive surgery with some Indian surgeon and got fked up with that too. Didn't get the result he anticipated.
IMO he should have focused all his money and effort fixing his hair and face and not bother with limb lengthening and clavicle lengthening.
lmao nailed it
we knew about the bimax and the failed LL but when he made the video about his clavicle lengthening was just the cherry on top
greed focked him up, at 5'11 he couldve passportbromaxx in asia and mog the local ricers unfortunately he is too low iq to get a remote programmerfag job as he is just a basic construction worker
just a series of terrible decisions
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That guy in the video is a joke TBH. Dude was 5'11 morning height and instead of fixing his hair or physique, decided to lengthen his tibia with the worst method possible (monolateral fixators) to gain 2 inches of height.
He was also fked up getting clavicle lengthening surgery with Eppley. Said in one of his videos that the left clavicle simply popped out of alignment and now suffers with shoulder mobility issues.
Also did facial reconstructive surgery with some Indian surgeon and got fked up with that too. Didn't get the result he anticipated.
IMO he should have focused all his money and effort fixing his hair and face and not bother with limb lengthening and clavicle lengthening.
Totally agreed.
i do not know why i do not feel sympathy for him..so sorry to say that!
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haha I'm pretty sure he's autistic too tbh, the way he talks on his YouTube channel, he's definitely not all there.
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mirneeelnumber1ooye > fking incel beta that you are, does it seem ok to be a passebortbro?
You're so needy and frustrated
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mirneeelnumber1ooye > fking incel beta that you are, does it seem ok to be a passebortbro?
You're so needy and frustrated
lol at this illiterate albanian faggot
are you following me around the forum or something?
can you even read english? I said that the dude from the youtube channel who looks like this:
(https://s8d6.turboimg.net/t1/101346841_Capture.jpg) (https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/101346841/Capture.jpg.html)
should have gone passportbro the moment he realized it was over for him in the west
instead he did buccal fat removal(retarded), bimax in india(retarded), clavicle lengthening(giga retarded), hair transplant(failed), LL in turkey while being 180(failed)
so for buddy boyos like him for whom it was over before it even started in the USA, they should obviously studymaxx, get a remote job they can do online, and get their ass to Asia to run justbeamerican game, justbewhite game and justdanglethepossibilityofagreencard game on the local brown peasant girls with the dark pussy lips
you understand now, albanian faggot?
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It's better to stay alone with your honor, to do what you please, than to go make the passportbro like a pussy-hungry beta
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It's better to stay alone with your honor, to do what you please, than to go around playing around like a pussy-hungry beta
what are you even talking about, albanian faggot?
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Nice beta seeking approval from women and society
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Castrated man, I feel like I'm seeing my grandmother on a forum talking about life and the choices of people who take action
No one here wants to read your pussy-hungry Beta advice
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A garbage, butcher Yuksel Yurttas and the rest of the Turkish butchers are. They constantly cripple people, disable people, and then act like they have no clue what you’re talking about. They are born liars. Stay away from Turkey and the butcher Yuksel Yurttas if you value your legs.
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A garbage, butcher Yuksel Yurttas and the rest of the Turkish butchers are. They constantly cripple people, disable people, and then act like they have no clue what you’re talking about. They are born liars. Stay away from Turkey and the butcher Yuksel Yurttas if you value your legs.
doing a good job spreading the word buddy boyo
did you manage to recover by now? what's the situation
are the precice femurs still in the cards for you or youre done with playing with your ability to walk?
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doing a good job spreading the word buddy boyo
did you manage to recover by now? what's the situation
are the precice femurs still in the cards for you or youre done with playing with your ability to walk?
Walking wise I’m fully recovered, however I have slight balance issues due to the procurvstum that the butcher Yuksel Yurttas caused. You wouldn’t be able to tell by looking, I can sense it however myself. I will have to get my issue fixed with TSF frames.
Stay away from these Turkish butchers like Yuksel Yurttas if you value your legs!
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The butcher Yuksel Yurttas also caused this patient to have osteomyelitis aka bone infection. It has been noted that the butcher Yuksel Yurttas’ operating room is not sterile, meaning that virus and bacteria can get into open wounds!
If you do surgery with Yuksel Yurttas or any of the Turkish butchers, you are risking your legs and your life!
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=79700.0
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Castrated man, I feel like I'm seeing my grandmother on a forum talking about life and the choices of people who take action
No one here wants to read your pussy-hungry Beta advice
An incel who 'passportbromaxes' might be seen as a loser, sure. But you, sitting in your western office cubicle, are both an incel and a loser, at least the first guy managed to overcome one of those things, so he'd still be doing better than you.
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That guy in the video is a joke TBH. Dude was 5'11 morning height and instead of fixing his hair or physique, decided to lengthen his tibia with the worst method possible (monolateral fixators) to gain 2 inches of height.
He was also fked up getting clavicle lengthening surgery with Eppley. Said in one of his videos that the left clavicle simply popped out of alignment and now suffers with shoulder mobility issues.
Also did facial reconstructive surgery with some Indian surgeon and got fked up with that too. Didn't get the result he anticipated.
IMO he should have focused all his money and effort fixing his hair and face and not bother with limb lengthening and clavicle lengthening.
He did get all those surgeries just to look like Erdogan LOL
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I've seen that guy's pic before he did all those facial plastic surgeries and he was overweight at the time. If he reduced his body fat percentage down to a reasonable levels, put on some muscles, did some skincare routine, grew dark beard and brows and either shave his head or got hair transplant and then proper haircut, he would have been much better in terms of functionality and looks.
Basically, him going with some shady Indian doc for jaw surgery and then to another shady Turkish doc for LL at 5 fukin' 11 inches were the most irrational and dumb thing he could do in his life.
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I've seen that guy's pic before he did all those facial plastic surgeries and he was overweight at the time. If he reduced his body fat percentage down to a reasonable levels, put on some muscles, did some skincare routine, grew dark beard and brows and either shave his head or got hair transplant and then proper haircut, he would have been much better in terms of functionality and looks.
Basically, him going with some shady Indian doc for jaw surgery and then to another shady Turkish doc for LL at 5 fukin' 11 inches were the most irrational and dumb thing he could do in his life.
The worst decision of my life was going to the Turkish butcher Yuksel Yurttas! The butchers in Turkey have no medical standards, will lie to your face, and are greedy as hell. Stay away from butcher Yuksel if you value your legs!
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Yuksel Yurttas the criminal is continuing to do LL surgeries, and constantly destroying people’s lives and futures with his mistakes. He is a criminal doctor who needs to be in jail. Do not do surgery with these Turkish butchers if you value your legs.
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Yuksel Yurttas the criminal is continuing to do LL surgeries, and constantly destroying people’s lives and futures with his mistakes. He is a criminal doctor who needs to be in jail. Do not do surgery with these Turkish butchers if you value your legs.
Do you think it's safe to do gnail with giotikas? There are several successful diaries and not that much of a scope to fk things up? My other option is precice/fitbone with Birkholtz but I'd prefer wait bearing nail. This is for tibias I've already got my femurs done with precice 2.2 and that went really well.
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Do you think it's safe to do gnail with giotikas? There are several successful diaries and not that much of a scope to fk things up? My other option is precice/fitbone with Birkholtz but I'd prefer wait bearing nail. This is for tibias I've already got my femurs done with precice 2.2 and that went really well.
There’s no point for weightbearing nail. You’re not gonna be doing much walking either way, I had a weightbearing nail and the only walking I could tolerate was to the restroom.
Either way stay away from Giotikas. Cyborg4life doesn’t recommend him and I definitely don’t recommend him, Giotikas is on the same level as the Turkish butchers. I was both their patients and I regret it everyday, every time I bend my knee and get pain I curse Giotikas.
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You don’t want a surgeon who’s either too incompetent or too arrogant to accept his mistakes. And both Yuksel and Giotikas are on the same level of incompetence. Don’t make the same mistake I and others did my friend.
I just got a DM from someone else a week ago saying he had the same issue I did with Giotikas. He’s not a good surgeon. You risk your life and your legs.
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why everyone is now talking bs about Giotikas, before it was considerated one of the best economic doctors you could found in this page. Also if i remember there were users and one of them called "Dani Viking" who had a good member rank and his surgery was very successful
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why everyone is now talking bs about Giotikas, before it was considerated one of the best economic doctors you could found in this page. Also if i remember there were users and one of them called "Dani Viking" who had a good member rank and his surgery was very successful
You get what you pay for! Dr Giotikas may be a trauma doctor which any Joe Schmoe in Turkey is also. However if you have a complication can Dr Giotikas correctly diagnose you and correct it? Definitely not!
That’s the difference between orthopedic trauma doctors (Giotikas, Yurttas, and Turkish butchers)
and orthopedic limb lengthening specialists (Assayag, Paley, Conway, etc)!
Any joe shmoe orthopedic trauma doctor can put a nail in your bone!
However an orthopedic limb lengthening specialist is going to make sure that nail is PROPERLY put in and also correctly know how to diagnose complications!
Is that a risk you’re willing to take by going to the Turkish butchers or Giotikas? You decide!
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I’ve been offline from this site for a long period of time and definitely I need to update myself in here,can you or someone share more content (links) about Giotikas and a failed procedure? The truth is I considered him as my doctor for my 2nd LL and hearing pple mentioning negative thoughts gave me goosebumps asf
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I’ve been offline from this site for a long period of time and definitely I need to update myself in here,can you or someone share more content (links) about Giotikas and a failed procedure? The truth is I considered him as my doctor for my 2nd LL and hearing pple mentioning negative thoughts gave me goosebumps asf
i think it's just this guy shortisnotfun who is shaming giotikas in every post he makes copypasting the same sentences
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I’ve been offline from this site for a long period of time and definitely I need to update myself in here,can you or someone share more content (links) about Giotikas and a failed procedure? The truth is I considered him as my doctor for my 2nd LL and hearing pple mentioning negative thoughts gave me goosebumps asf
i think it's just this guy shortisnotfun who is shaming giotikas in every post he makes copypasting the same sentences
Sure man:
Here are some examples of complications/failed surgeries Dr Giotikas has given patients:
FIRST case :
Patient DMs me and says he had the same issue. Dr Giotikas claimed to fix valgus and apex anterior deformity, but it’s clear from visual and x ray, he hasn’t:
https://ibb.co/CKj7FPv
SECOND case (ME) :
I went to Dr Giotikas to fix my own valgus/procurvatum deformity, Dr Giotikas claimed he did, but Dr Assayag showed me on x-ray that absolutely nothing was corrected:
Dr Giotikas claims this is perfectly normal and straight and no deformity present and trash talked American surgeons when I showed him I still had an issue! LOL:
https://ibb.co/2jJK89X
THIRD case :
Another user goes to Giotikas to fix procurvatum deformity, says its clear from standing and from x-ray that the deformity wasn’t corrected.
https://ibb.co/L5yHq0h
https://ibb.co/8K77F3r
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=64280.msg164727#msg164727
FOURTH case :
User gets fibula non union due to Giotikas not properly fixating ankle bone, risk of osteoarthritis, and needs multiple correction surgeries:
https://ibb.co/1sn8hVw
https://ibb.co/31PkPvB
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=9073.msg221515#msg221515
FIFTH case :
Giotikas patient has non union on femur due to bone cut and where the nail was inserted. 15:46
https://ibb.co/LhFHJZ2
https://ibb.co/HzJQ9w9
https://youtu.be/YRHHFanq178
SIXTH case :
Giotikas patient dies from LL:
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=83193.0
32:45
https://youtu.be/QODiRKN3lFs
SEVENTH case:
Protruding screw from G-Nail hurts patient in hip (I had the same problem, with a protruding screw in my tibia from Giotikas. Extremely painful) (search up Cyborg4life and Paley interview) 01:31:10:
https://ibb.co/FK1PsnW
It’s not just me, Cyborg4life doesn’t recommend Giotikas! He hid all the interviews with him! I can only warn you by giving my and others examples! Your choice is your own, whether you want to risk your legs to save money!
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I share this information so the people here can be informed! I was once also under the impression that Giotikas was a good choice, but after my own experience and reading about others experiences, I cannot recommend him! I’ll make a full post on Giotikas soon!
Giotikas is an orthopedic trauma surgeon, NOT an orthopedic limb lengthening specialist! There is a huge distinction and skill/knowledge gap between the two!
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The criminal Yuksel Yurttas continues advertising this procedure and continues to cripple and maim patients. This criminal doctor should be in jail! What type of medical standards are there in Turkey for this butcher Yuksel Yurttas to continue to operate? There should be something done against this butcher Yuksel! Do not go to Turkey and do not do surgery with butcher Yuksel if you value your legs! He has crippled more than 20+ people!
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Butcher Yuksel Yurttas claims he's the best in Turkey and even the world. LOL. He is a butcher doing this surgery unchecked and without any consequences for crippling people as he has done his entire career. Do not do this surgery in Turkey and definitely do not do it with Yuksel Yurttas if you value your legs. He will leave you crippled and then walk off as he did to me.
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Yuksel Yurttas is a butcher and a doctor that cripples his patients. I am so upset at how he treats his patients. If he is not qualified to do this surgery properly, then he should never have done it. I am upset at having to get another surgery to fix his mistakes. Yuksel Yurttas is a criminal and terrible doctor
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Don’t go to this doctor. It’s better to jump off a cliff if you want your legs broken then to go this doctor. He is a butcher.
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which doctor u recommend bro ?
please tell
i just need some advice
i have been following your diary since starting and i also want to have this surgery from a experienced doctor not from that butcher
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Go to cyborg4life youtub channel and see the doctors he recommended