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Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Discussions => Topic started by: Atlas on December 05, 2022, 08:06:50 AM
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Is there a people who give up mid LL because it’s too painful?
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I know of a guy who stopped at 1.5 cm. He yelled and pounded the hospital wall.
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Yes sadly I also know someone. You don‘t want to give up you will 100% regret it big time.
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when I did tibias, on the first day after surgery I regretted it. On the 5th day, that loneliness hit the impression of being crippled when I used to be fine. I say that I suffered more psychologically than physically. I managed to reach 4cm and I regret not going further. Now I'm here wanting to do a femur. The pain Passes the height stays, nothing good is easy. You pay with money and with pain be it mentally or physically.
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External or Internal?
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LON
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Turkey or India?
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I wouldn't be surprised. People use to think that getting all that money for paying the operation and schedule this one are most of the work.
Now i understand when i read some comments saying "this operation is not done for everybody". They were not speaking about money. It's a moderate pain over a long time. But it will stop you to have your nomal life... No more walking your dog, very very complicate to continue your work...
For me is one year lost in my life even if i am happy i finally did it. On the other hand, if i knew all what i am suffering before getting this operation, i would have probabily cancelled it.
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I wouldn't be surprised. People use to think that getting all that money for paying the operation and schedule this one are most of the work.
Now i understand when i read some comments saying "this operation is not done for everybody". They were not speaking about money. It's a moderate pain over a long time. But it will stop you to have your nomal life... No more walking your dog, very very complicate to continue your work...
For me is one year lost in my life even if i am happy i finally did it. On the other hand, if i knew all what i am suffering before getting this operation, i would have probabily cancelled it.
Is it difficult to continue a desk job?
How many cm did you get per leg? Was it hard towards the end or always hard?
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I wouldn't be surprised. People use to think that getting all that money for paying the operation and schedule this one are most of the work.
Now i understand when i read some comments saying "this operation is not done for everybody". They were not speaking about money. It's a moderate pain over a long time. But it will stop you to have your nomal life... No more walking your dog, very very complicate to continue your work...
For me is one year lost in my life even if i am happy i finally did it. On the other hand, if i knew all what i am suffering before getting this operation, i would have probabily cancelled it.
What lengething technique did you do? Because some methods of LL are significantly painful than others
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What lengething technique did you do? Because some methods of LL are significantly painful than others
Fitbone
Is it difficult to continue a desk job?
How many cm did you get per leg? Was it hard towards the end or always hard?
Im actually engineer so most of the time in an office. The problem is that is gonna be hard to go by your own at work, if you have tasks that ask you to move or asked to see other departments, if you have tasks that ask you to drive your company car. In europe a doctor must authorize you to work if you have any pathology. 5 weeks ago, the doctor concluded that I am temporarily unfit for my job (something could happen to me when i am walking with crutches by the company or in the car when i am going to work). So my company are really angry to see me like this, and ask me every 2 weeks when it's gonna end... And even if you are sitted all the time, a lot of time you will be unproductive because of the pain...
It's near 1 year im with crutches and i am very tired of not doing a normal life... Just want it finish fast :'(
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Fitbone
Im actually engineer so most of the time in an office. The problem is that is gonna be hard to go by your own at work, if you have tasks that ask you to move or asked to see other departments, if you have tasks that ask you to drive your company car. In europe a doctor must authorize you to work if you have any pathology. 5 weeks ago, the doctor concluded that I am temporarily unfit for my job (something could happen to me when i am walking with crutches by the company or in the car when i am going to work). So my company are really angry to see me like this, and ask me every 2 weeks when it's gonna end... And even if you are sitted all the time, a lot of time you will be unproductive because of the pain...
It's near 1 year im with crutches and i am very tired of not doing a normal life... Just want it finish fast :'(
Your company FORCED you to get doctor authorization because you looked disabled? Is that not discrimination? Or were you unable to do certain activities because of which you were forced to get doctor authorization?
Did the company find out you did cosmetic surgery?
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10 days ago I talked to a patient who was going to have LON on Femurs in a few days. A week later he had surgery to remove the device.
Let me tell you LON on Femurs is not that painfull in first weeks though. But your muscles becomes so weak after the surgery and there is some discomfort. You always either lie down or sit on your ass and it becomes annoying after some time. I couldn't sit on the toilet for four days after the surgery. I grew 1.2cm so far and my average pain level is like 3/10 , I would give a typical headache 6/10. I don't even take pain killers right now. Pain might start kick in later when I pass like 3cm or something.
So like Dr. Paley says this CLL is an 4th dimensional surgery. There is also time aspect of it. I think this surgery is for people who are really really obsessed with their height.
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Well, its for people who suffer from height dysphoria. Other people can live with being short.
No person would go through all this for a couple cm more height. The risks are crazy.
The longterm effects uncertain. If your leg stays misaligned, you think it wont impact your knee joint and ankles?
Its like with gender dysphoria where people become transgender. Its hard to understand it unless you suffer from dysphoria...
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Well, its for people who suffer from height dysphoria. Other people can live with being short.
No person would go through all this for a couple cm more height. The risks are crazy.
The longterm effects uncertain. If your leg stays misaligned, you think it wont impact your knee joint and ankles?
Its like with gender dysphoria where people become transgender. Its hard to understand it unless you suffer from dysphoria...
This is cope, there is a 5’10 guy who did LL even 5’11 to just improve there SMV
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What is SMV? I’m new to the LL world 🤣
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What is SMV? I’m new to the LL world 🤣
That's not LL speak, it's dating world slang for Sexual Market Value
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What is SMV? I’m new to the LL world 🤣
i think it means saxuel market value. so it means how attractive you are in hookup culture :P
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LOL!!!!! If I was 5”11 I wouldn’t bother at all to do LL. To each their own I guess. There is this guy that’s 182.5 trying for 15cm. He is crazy to go to this clinic with all their backlash.
https://youtu.be/hn5VBgEloao
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But the they had a lot of success stories in the other hand.they hada full package all included,the problem is the surgeon or what?because dr Buldu seems very good,where is the point against this agency?because the 3 stories that got bad?really confusing to choose
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Man...if that guy raises his center of gravity 15 cm after a quadrilateral lengthening...Strongman competitions are out of the question. Even just normal squats and lunges will be out of the question. Hope he realizes this. Body mechanics absolutely change. That clinic is good at marketing and of course they'll tell you what you want to hear...but there is a very good reason that every other clinic he visited told him he would not perform as before, because it's the truth.
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LOL!!!!! If I was 5”11 I wouldn’t bother at all to do LL. To each their own I guess. There is this guy that’s 182.5 trying for 15cm. He is crazy to go to this clinic with all their backlash.
https://youtu.be/hn5VBgEloao
I would say each to their own regarding height. A person in India probably would call someone in the Netherlands that's 175 crazy for getting the surgery to become average. Maybe this guy hates his height and if he has the means and will to do it more power to him.
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Can you play sport and work out now? Or nah?
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I would say each to their own regarding height. A person in India probably would call someone in the Netherlands that's 175 crazy for getting the surgery to become average. Maybe this guy hates his height and if he has the means and will to do it more power to him.
He explained that he had reached his potential and got too big for his height (he was bigger before, lost weight for the surgery). So he didnt have motivation anymore and prob decided to get taller cause he thinks it will help him but idk some people just want to be perfect but dont seem to be in touch with reality. I've seen few more 6' people who want to get this surgery but I dont think they get how serious this is. If it was easy I wouldnt even wait.
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LOL!!!!! If I was 5”11 I wouldn’t bother at all to do LL. To each their own I guess. There is this guy that’s 182.5 trying for 15cm. He is crazy to go to this clinic with all their backlash.
https://youtu.be/hn5VBgEloao
Lmfao, I hope he didn’t do externals because they would cripple him. Someone should try to message him to try to post on this site, 100% chance it’s not going well so he will stay quiet to try to get live life taller/crippled to fix his issue
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Fitbone
Im actually engineer so most of the time in an office. The problem is that is gonna be hard to go by your own at work, if you have tasks that ask you to move or asked to see other departments, if you have tasks that ask you to drive your company car. In europe a doctor must authorize you to work if you have any pathology. 5 weeks ago, the doctor concluded that I am temporarily unfit for my job (something could happen to me when i am walking with crutches by the company or in the car when i am going to work). So my company are really angry to see me like this, and ask me every 2 weeks when it's gonna end... And even if you are sitted all the time, a lot of time you will be unproductive because of the pain...
It's near 1 year im with crutches and i am very tired of not doing a normal life... Just want it finish fast :'(
You are still in crutches after 1 year ? How is that possible ? Complications ?
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You are still in crutches after 1 year ? How is that possible ? Complications ?
I am not in crunches, just can’t run or jog and can’t walk properly. 1/4 of my bone didn’t grow back and my IT band is torn
Go read my story on halil, I tried to summarize it but he butchered me so much I couldn’t condense it
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I know of a guy who stopped at 1.5 cm. He yelled and pounded the hospital wall.
what a wimp
muh legsies be hurtin eh
give that guy some tramadol already
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One guy @ Paley gave up in one month and only grew less than couple of centimeters. He couldn't handle the pain and flew back home.
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You are still in crutches after 1 year ? How is that possible ? Complications ?
No, i decided to do 8 cm and one leg after the other. So with fitbone it takes a little more than 3 months to do all the LL. But after the LL you still need 1 or 2 months to recover. I needed 2 monthes, and even that it was very hard... i would have needed like 3 months to be fully recovered from the first leg...
At the middle of November i finished LL with the second leg. So if nothing happens, i will be OK by the end of January... so yes... 12 months... So long :'(
In Europe, it is mandatory to see a doctor to evaluate your health. I was very lucky as i was operated by a doctor in another country they never tried to contrast the information my LL doctor give them. I am thankful that the "lied" on the medical repport. So no, it is no discriminatory. Indeed, everybody must see a doctor every year to evaluate you.
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In Europe, it is mandatory to see a doctor to evaluate your health. I was very lucky as i was operated by a doctor in another country they never tried to contrast the information my LL doctor give them. I am thankful that the "lied" on the medical repport. So no, it is no discriminatory. Indeed, everybody must see a doctor every year to evaluate you.
Even for an office/desk job? I have never heard of this. It sounds like a major breach of privacy. So each employee submits to a medical exam every year and the company HR gets to see it?
Do you mind sending me a link to this process please?
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Even for an office/desk job? I have never heard of this. It sounds like a major breach of privacy. So each employee submits to a medical exam every year and the company HR gets to see it?
Do you mind sending me a link to this process please?
Every type of job. But you keep your privacity. If it is your wish, your job cannot be informed of any medical record of its employees.
That's how it works: the doctor establishes a document that determines if you are fit to work, or not after examining you. In my case, I saw the doctor a few weeks ago and determined that I was temporarily unfit to work. He determined that I had to work from home for a few weeks. So the job is obliged to accept the conditions set by the doctor. If the doctor had determined that I am permanently unfit, my job would have had the obligation to adapt my job, or to find me new functions that I am capable of performing given my disability.
When the doctor examined me, I gave him the report that my surgeon had written. In it the surgeon had indicated that he had performed an operation to correct the femur. Without more great detail. As a doctor, he did not attempt to establish whether this was true or not. The doctor simply saw that I was not able to walk without crutches and chose what was the best situation for me. In my case, working from home until I can walk again without crutches. The doctor did not ask me X-ray or any medical exam. Of course, my company only knows my version. I told them I had an accident. It's a medical secret.
Actually, if you think about it, this is done to protect the worker.
Here you have some information for france. But it is more or less the same for each country of europe.
https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F34061
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damn I had no idea these rules existed
thanks for sharing!
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LittleMember if your local doc had found out you did cosmetic LL would you have been fired for not being able to work?
Or does it not matter whether you are unfit to work because you did cosmetic LL or had a fracture
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One guy @ Paley gave up in one month and only grew less than couple of centimeters. He couldn't handle the pain and flew back home.
Are these people soft or are they regular who just had a bad experience?
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LL is very hard and painful and for many, if they don't technically abandon, they stop short of their objective (usually 8cm with Precise nails... people will go to 7 or whatnot)
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Mmmm i don't think so. Legally the fonctions of such doctor are very framed by the law. He or She has not the right to give for example an advice to a medical recovery. For example, he/she cannot say u must do that to recover from your leg. Just he/she can say u can or cannot do your functions at your job. Nothing more. For sure i am not gonna be the one who is gonna be honest and say that it was not a deformation, and that indeed was a cosmetic operation, but i am pretty sure the doctor cannot say any information to your job.
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Are these people soft or are they regular who just had a bad experience?
Once you go through the process of LL you'll understand even completing 1cm is extremely difficult and can be considered a gargantuan task. Truly, only go through this process if you really really really want it and are pretty much okay with being disabled for 4-5 months.
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Once you go through the process of LL you'll understand even completing 1cm is extremely difficult and can be considered a gargantuan task. Truly, only go through this process if you really really really want it and are pretty much okay with being disabled for 4-5 months.
Totally agree... The first cms are ok, from 4cm ahead i had the feeling it was really really hard.
Omg 4-5 months diseable... Im depressed when i see i am just 2 months from being disabled during a full year... :'( And still i cannot walk without crutches... With which kind of nail you are just disabled for just 5-6 months? I suppose this people are not lengthening 8.5cm like me...
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Once you go through the process of LL you'll understand even completing 1cm is extremely difficult and can be considered a gargantuan task. Truly, only go through this process if you really really really want it and are pretty much okay with being disabled for 4-5 months.
Agree with this, although as someone going through LL right now, the pain of the process and the temporary inconvenience of disability is nothing compared to the profound emotional pain and shame of height neurosis.
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Agree with this, although as someone going through LL right now, the pain of the process and the temporary inconvenience of disability is nothing compared to the profound emotional pain and shame of height neurosis.
I agree about your comparaison, but it is really a different kind of pain ;D
As a woman, I imagine the emotional pain was less harder than a man... But for me, working in a mostly men work, it was too hard to ignore it.
Personally, without Tramadol i could not have done all this process... Even more if you have to continue to work...
But still 1 year is f*cking long... Can someone tell me if he/she has been in the same situation than me?
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Hi there- happy to discuss in more depth off line. LL rehab doesn't necessarily have to be painful. Most of my clients do very well pain wise. There are a number of "levers" to pull to help manage the pain during lengthening.
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Is there a people who give up mid LL because it’s too painful?
There were couple of instances during lengthening when I thought of giving up. I'm glad I had support from my dad who pushed me to reach my goal. Now I regret not doing full 8cm !!
Pain, tightness, bent knee, duckass etc. etc. does go away! If anyone is in lot of pain, take those damn painkillers. You can get off meds easily during consolidation.
Recently gained 6.9cm on femurs with precise. I'm at 5th month post op.
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There were couple of instances during lengthening when I thought of giving up. I'm glad I had support from my dad who pushed me to reach my goal. Now I regret not doing full 8cm !!
Pain, tightness, bent knee, duckass etc. etc. does go away! If anyone is in lot of pain, take those damn painkillers. You can get off meds easily during consolidation.
Recently gained 6.9cm on femurs with precise. I'm at 5th month post op.
Have you done both legs at the same time? How long was the lenghten process? 2.5 months?
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Have you done both legs at the same time? How long was the lenghten process? 2.5 months?
for me , 8 CM , 3 months .
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Have you done both legs at the same time? How long was the lenghten process? 2.5 months?
Yes, both legs at same time. My lengthening period was about 75 days for 6.9cm (I missed some distractions due to nerve pain and travel).
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Yes, a lot of people unfortunately has to stop due to the pain.
a guy who did it with me stopped at 3 CM LON femurs essentially due to the pain.
The pain is really not predictable, hit everyone differently, at the same time people have different pain thresholds of course.
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There were couple of instances during lengthening when I thought of giving up. I'm glad I had support from my dad who pushed me to reach my goal. Now I regret not doing full 8cm !!
Pain, tightness, bent knee, duckass etc. etc. does go away! If anyone is in lot of pain, take those damn painkillers. You can get off meds easily during consolidation.
Recently gained 6.9cm on femurs with precise. I'm at 5th month post op.
do not regret not doing full 8 cm... i've done 8.5 cm and i wish ive stopped before... Faster recovery and more proportional... i understand why doctors always say max 8 cm... 8 cm is already too much... i wish i have stopped at 7 cm
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One guy @ Paley gave up in one month and only grew less than couple of centimeters. He couldn't handle the pain and flew back home.
That's pretty beta...and a very expensive mistake, he clearly didn't have real height dysphoria.
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do not regret not doing full 8 cm... i've done 8.5 cm and i wish ive stopped before... Faster recovery and more proportional... i understand why doctors always say max 8 cm... 8 cm is already too much... i wish i have stopped at 7 cm
Dr Franz said around 6.5cm is the point before problems start increasing exponentially with femur lengthening and permanent tightness seems to be a feature with patients who have done 8cm plus so your probably onto something.
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Dr Franz said around 6.5cm is the point before problems start increasing exponentially with femur lengthening and permanent tightness seems to be a feature with patients who have done 8cm plus so your probably onto something.
Ok this is exactly what i feel... tightness... mmmm please say to me that is gonna disappear at some point...???