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Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Patients Experiences => Topic started by: Taller90 on August 06, 2022, 11:48:21 AM
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Hello everyone,
I am almost done but I wanted to share my experiences about my LL with you. First my personal key facts:
Age: 32, Male
Starting height: 162,5 cm
Wingspan: 161 cm
Weight: 79kg before surgery (afterwards I came up to 75 kg)
no health issues and I am in a normal sport shape with regard to flexibility
Goal: 10-10 cm in femur
I had my surgery end of April 2022 and got a 11 Betzbone nail. It was my first surgery at all but I was positively surprised from the pain level. The clicking was painful at the beginning but I was able to handle it, if I have taken the painkillers 1-2 hours before. Overall I was on a normal painkiller level, Dr. Betz said. I used Novalgin (3xday), Tramadol (2xday) and Pregabalin (2xday) as I have got some nerve pains quite early. This might was my fault as I have speed-up the clicking rate very fast to 22 (4th day) and this might have triggered my nerve to much. However, I was two weeks in the hospital before I went back at home in Germany. I have done 18-20 clicks the first 3 cm and reduced afterwards the clicking rate to 15 till today. Overall, I had a kind of break even point after 3-4 cm where the clicking turned out very smoothly and more and more painless.
I am now at day 100 :D lengthened 8,7 cm and reduced my painkillers to a minimum (Novalgin only). I did get a bad duck ass in the meantime but I was able to improve it, so that I would say I have a slight duck ass right now. So far I am not suffering from any wide legs. As already mentioned by others Dr. Betz is doing the surgery together with Dr. Becker who is likely to become his successor. Both were/are great and were always available for me during the hospital time and afterwards. I was personally flashed by the engagement of Dr. Betz as during my surgery week Daniela (his assistant) got sick and as I have been in St. Ingbert, he had to handle everything alone but however he came and visited me every day. Afterwards I got in closer contact with Dr. Becker who is also absolutely responsive via WhatsApp and usually provides you a prompt answers (on Sunday, too!). They mean that I should get recovered fully from my slight duck ass as soon as the bone hailing has been completed (of course under the premise of intensive stretching). I personally didn't get done the IT release.
That's how it looks like now: https://imgur.com/a/7JpJD3n
If everything went well, I should receive 10 cm in two weeks. Up from there I will re-evaluate, if I should go further or not due to the proportions but I assume that this might gonna be ok as I had quite short legs before. Of course the femur/tibia ratio will not be good but I still look good in short pants, so I hope this additional 2,7 cm will not screw up everything...
I would be interested, if anyone suffered a similiar duck ass and got fully recovered out of it?
Let me know, if you have any questions.
Cheers,
Taller90
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congratulations.
If I would have enough money, I would also choose Dr. Betz.
Can you drive a car by the moment?
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congratulations man your legs look very masculine and massive now
bet you will be very happy when all is said and done
how much did you pay for the surgery?
does your family know?
who has been helping you out with daily stuff or after you left the hospital you were on your own all this time in order to hide the surgery?
also, is it going to be too much of a trouble if you shoot a quick video of how you do a click?
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it is transparent. I already know it long time ago:
https://www.betzinstitute.com/patienten-info/16-kosten.html
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congratulations.
If I would have enough money, I would also choose Dr. Betz.
Can you drive a car by the moment?
Thanks!
I have sold my car two weeks before surgery and honestly I am regretting it right now because yes I would be able to drive a car at the moment.
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congratulations man your legs look very masculine and massive now
bet you will be very happy when all is said and done
how much did you pay for the surgery?
does your family know?
who has been helping you out with daily stuff or after you left the hospital you were on your own all this time in order to hide the surgery?
also, is it going to be too much of a trouble if you shoot a quick video of how you do a click?
Thanks! I told my parents directly after I have done the surgery but only because they would have been worrying much more than me about it. Now they are my biggest supporter and visit me once a week always checking how much size I have achieved :) I have only informed my best friend about the surgery before and he was also the one who picked me up at the hospital after the two weeks. I live alone and had to handle my daily stuff at home alone which was indeed a bit difficult but feasible, if you have time and are fully motivated into it.
Luckily, I was able to take a paid leave from my work so that I had the time to focus on my recovery and organizing my daily life around it. I also live in a bigger city in Germany, so that I do my weekly grocery shopping online or go with the metro and a small bag to the next super market for smaller stuff. I took the bus and metro also for the way to the gym which I am visiting 5-6 times per week. As we have already started with muscle training in the hospital - I think it was from the 4th day - and Dr. Betz told us to continue with the gym (5-6x week) and physiotherapy (4-5x week) in addition to his stretching exercises, I think this might was the reason why my muscles came back in the meantime. I have lost a lot of muscles due to the surgery, in particular when it comes to the muscles around the hip (gluteal muscles). At the beginning, I was not able to raise my leg when I was on my side. Now this is working again very well.
I can strongly recommend everyone to take as much physiotherapy as possible in the first weeks. You might not need it strongly but it will help your recovery very much and help you to handle the remaining swelling, muscles hardening and pain. I have noticed that sauna, aqua walking and Jacuzzi were very good for me as well. Luckily, I was already a member of a good gym which already had this facilities too, so that I have linked it to my training 2-3 times per week. In particular the mix of warm and cold from a good sauna session were very good for me (but you need to know, that I have already visited the the sauna on a regular basis before).
I will try to get this video done in the upcoming days.
The costs of the surgery are listed transparently on the homepage of Dr. Betz https://www.betzinstitute.com. Just have a quick look there.
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Thanks! I told my parents directly after I have done the surgery but only because they would have been worrying much more than me about it. Now they are my biggest supporter and visit me once a week always checking how much size I have achieved :) I have only informed my best friend about the surgery before and he was also the one who picked me up at the hospital after the two weeks. I live alone and had to handle my daily stuff at home alone which was indeed a bit difficult but feasible, if you have time and are fully motivated into it.
Luckily, I was able to take a paid leave from my work so that I had the time to focus on my recovery and organizing my daily life around it. I also live in a bigger city in Germany, so that I do my weekly grocery shopping online or go with the metro and a small bag to the next super market for smaller stuff. I took the bus and metro also for the way to the gym which I am visiting 5-6 times per week. As we have already started with muscle training in the hospital - I think it was from the 4th day - and Dr. Betz told us to continue with the gym (5-6x week) and physiotherapy (4-5x week) in addition to his stretching exercises, I think this might was the reason why my muscles came back in the meantime. I have lost a lot of muscles due to the surgery, in particular when it comes to the muscles around the hip (gluteal muscles). At the beginning, I was not able to raise my leg when I was on my side. Now this is working again very well.
I can strongly recommend everyone to take as much physiotherapy as possible in the first weeks. You might not need it strongly but it will help your recovery very much and help you to handle the remaining swelling, muscles hardening and pain. I have noticed that sauna, aqua walking and Jacuzzi were very good for me as well. Luckily, I was already a member of a good gym which already had this facilities too, so that I have linked it to my training 2-3 times per week. In particular the mix of warm and cold from a good sauna session were very good for me (but you need to know, that I have already visited the the sauna on a regular basis before).
I will try to get this video done in the upcoming days.
The costs of the surgery are listed transparently on the homepage of Dr. Betz https://www.betzinstitute.com. Just have a quick look there.
I am also living alone in Germany, but in a very small village. Maybe for my second surgery I wil have enough money to choose Dr. Betz.
Can't you make homeoffice?
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Congrats, Taller90! Keep strong!
Who performed the surgery? Betz, Becker or both?
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I am also living alone in Germany, but in a very small village. Maybe for my second surgery I wil have enough money to choose Dr. Betz.
Can't you make homeoffice?
Now, I would be able to do homeoffice but at the beginning it would have been very difficult to work 8 Hours even at home, if you want to do all of Dr. betzs instructions. One hour PT, one hour gym, 3-5 times stretching (which usually Takes 1 hour as well) will keep you busy the most of your day. At the beginning I have needed about 1 hour for 18-20 klicks on both legs. Now, I am done in five minutes :D
So if you want to work you will need to do less and this will probably effect your recovery time
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Congrats, Taller90! Keep strong!
Who performed the surgery? Betz, Becker or both?
Both
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Both
What's ur impression on Dr. Becker?
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How was the experience so far?
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What's ur impression on Dr. Becker?
He is excellent from a service perspective, that means he is nearly always available via WhatsApp and provides you easy going but detailed answers. So far, I also didnt had any point to doubt the quality of his medical advice. Of course he does not have the same experience like Dr. Betz but first he is a qualified Plastic and Trauma surgeon, secound he is assisting Dr. Betz since three years at every surgery which means that he might have already done more than 300 CLL under the supervision of Dr. Betz and this is by far a lot. Finally Dr. Betz is always there as well, so this all together put me as Patient in a good feeling.
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congratulations man your legs look very masculine and massive now
bet you will be very happy when all is said and done
how much did you pay for the surgery?
does your family know?
who has been helping you out with daily stuff or after you left the hospital you were on your own all this time in order to hide the surgery?
also, is it going to be too much of a trouble if you shoot a quick video of how you do a click?
I have remembered that there is also a video of the clicking on Dr. Betz homepage (Part of his Promotion clip on the website). However there is also another one in youtube from another patient.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Uame5znQ_sI
The clicking is starting at 1,20 minutes of the video and I am doing it right now exactly like the guy is doing it in the video.
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Thank you for your answer. Do you think how long after the operation, it would be possible to work homeoffice totally 8 hours per day.
I mean not 8 hours in one part.
For example, working totally 1+1+1+1+0.5...=8 hours per day
Ich meine zwischendurch mach ich Pause wegen der OP.
Hope you could understand what I mean :D
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Thank you for your answer. Do you think how long after the operation, it would be possible to work homeoffice totally 8 hours per day.
I mean not 8 hours in one part.
For example, working totally 1+1+1+1+0.5...=8 hours per day
Ich meine zwischendurch mach ich Pause wegen der OP.
Hope you could understand what I mean :D
Probably from day 1, if you split your working time flexible Cross the day and you dont go to a gym or have a real close one and have some help for your home stuff. At the beginning, I have needed 1 hour for the clicking, and 3-4 x 1hour stretching. That's the minimum you should do. The remaining time/work is up to you.
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Day 103 / 1620 Klicks / 9,024 cm
Today I have reached the 9 cm :D :D The final goal of 10-11 cm isn't far anymore.
Here is an update how my current proportions look like and I would be happy to get your opinion about continuing with lengthening on:
a) +1cm = 10cm in total
b) +2cm = 11cm in total
https://imgur.com/a/uQONPSs
Thanks for any view on this.
I have done xRays last week and they still look good with a good performing callus. I am nearly painless - only some tightness in the right gluteus and IT Band which could be hopefully fixed by stretching after the clicking phase. My walking on crutches looks good and I can also walk without crutches a couple of meter but with the respective duck ass. I am so looking forward to the end of the clicking, when I can start with the real rehabilitation and stretching/working on my gait....
Finally I wanted to let you know, that I have done some very well experiences with an old Chinese technique calling "cupping" or in German: Schröpfen https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schröpfen. My PT hast tried it against my IT band pain which I had sometimes during the lengthening and he has used it also for my back and it has worked very well for me.
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Proportions look good :)
Do you have a "before" picture?
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Hey man, you look great. I say stop at this height or get the 1cm to make it a total of 10cm. I think stopping with this height is the best but if getting the 1 or 2cm will give you mental satisfaction than go for it. Good luck!!
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Now, I would be able to do homeoffice but at the beginning it would have been very difficult to work 8 Hours even at home, if you want to do all of Dr. betzs instructions. One hour PT, one hour gym, 3-5 times stretching (which usually Takes 1 hour as well) will keep you busy the most of your day. At the beginning I have needed about 1 hour for 18-20 klicks on both legs. Now, I am done in five minutes :D
So if you want to work you will need to do less and this will probably effect your recovery time
how many days did you use till you could do 18-20 klicks in 5 minutes?
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how many days did you use till you could do 18-20 klicks in 5 minutes?
It took a while… I think it was 4 weeks but Betz told me also before that after 3 or 4 weeks everything will go more smoothly (sleeping, clicking) and he was right.
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:D Thank you for your info, that is good. I can use 4 weeks vacation for the beginning
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Hey, Taller90! Thank you for the diary. It's great that you reached 9 cm so far. Do you have also X-ray photos?
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Hey, Taller90! Thank you for the diary. It's great that you reached 9 cm so far. Do you have also X-ray photos?
no problem. here you go. Those x-rays has been made at 9,0 cm and Dr. Becker as well es my orthopedist at home were satisfied with the bone hailing.
https://imgur.com/a/wC6L8uH
I will have another check-up with Dr. Betz at 10,00 cm and then we will decide together, if I can go/should go further ahead to hit the 11 or not.
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Good diary. I did femurs with Betz and Becker last month. My experience in short is this. Surgery went as smooth as possible, anesthesia, you wake up a few hours later a bit dizzy then 5 minutes later you're alright in your hospital room. Hospital is nice and clean but still a hospital (=depressing place). After a week they take you to the rehab center. My GOD. That place is SO GOOD. You feel like you're on a vacation. It's some place in the outskirts of Freiburg that's like a hotel and a clinic altogether and it's just incredible with restaurants, fountains, fresh air and trees. My room was incredible. For the important parts though. I only met Betz twice but I'm kinda glad I got 'sent' to Becker because he's super fast to respond all the time and overall a super cool guy. I heard it's a pain getting answers from Betz after surgery. Dr Becker, his successor, came like every two days and always responded super fast to my messages, something that continues now, 4 weeks after surgery. In the hospital, there was zero pain at all. Worst part was having to go to the toilet. First few days, you're unsure in your capabilities to walk and you get rushed by impatient nurses to sit in a tight MEGA UNCOMFORTABLE toilet seat and take a while having constipation from all the painkillers. That was honestly a terrible experience. Most of the nurses were bad, as if they don't understand you've just had both of your legs broken, a few were very nice. Clicking, for the first few days was a breeze. Sod's law of course, as I went home after 2 weeks, it became my nightmare. I couldn't get the right technique and angle and it was super tedious, painful and slow reducing me to the point of wanting to scream. It's really important to find your position and technique, something I am unable to do even now although better. Everyday I was waking up with horror on my face knowing I have to click again. Terrible position, I bend my knee to the point of pain and it doesn't click. Depression. Then I called Dr Becker on facetime and he sorted it out in 3 minutes. Still it kinda hurts but at least it clicks. Then I found out I was going very slow and the right way is to grind your teeth and push as fast as you can but my left leg for some reason is still hard to find a position with. I am super desperate for clicking to get better and for me to finally be able to click like a normal man. I really hate stretching too. 3-4 hours a day of this, I hate waking up knowing I have to do it. It's a part of the game though, what can you do. Very used to life on crutches now. My initial gap was 0.6mm. I should have lengthened about 1.4cm so far so I should be 2cm taller. Afraid to measure though lol. It's been a very tough first few weeks for me, praying it gets better. As I said before, this is an experience for animals. None of us here is normal wanting to do this. I blame it all on society driving us to such insane lengths just so we could 'fit in'.
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Thanks for the update, you seem to be making great progress.
Goal: 10-10 cm in femur
What do you mean by this? Do you intend to do 10cm in tibia and 10cm in femur?
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Thanks for the update, you seem to be making great progress.
What do you mean by this? Do you intend to do 10cm in tibia and 10cm in femur?
I am sorry that was a mistake, it should be 10-11 cm in femur. I will not think about tibia yet as long as I am not fully recovered.
In general, I will achieve 10cm tomorrow and have also my catch-up with Dr. Betz/Becker to decide, if I should continue or not. At the moment, have no pain at all, just stiffness I the morning and I was able to keep my duck ass in the level I have posted above. Honestly I worry a bit about, if I will be really able to stretch my muscles to such an extend to remove my duck ass completely . But, if I have read it correctly there are already other people in this forum who are improving their duck ass after the lengthening phase, so this provides me a bit of hope at least.
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I am sorry that was a mistake, it should be 10-11 cm in femur. I will not think about tibia yet as long as I am not fully recovered.
In general, I will achieve 10cm tomorrow and have also my catch-up with Dr. Betz/Becker to decide, if I should continue or not. At the moment, have no pain at all, just stiffness I the morning and I was able to keep my duck ass in the level I have posted above. Honestly I worry a bit about, if I will be really able to stretch my muscles to such an extend to remove my duck ass completely . But, if I have read it correctly there are already other people in this forum who are improving their duck ass after the lengthening phase, so this provides me a bit of hope at least.
Wow, you finish lengthening tomorrow. So, so lucky. I'm also a Dr Betz patient, kind of in the struggle atm. Do you mind shooting your whatsapp/telegram in DMs for a little talk?
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Final end - Day 125
I owe you guys a feedback. Dr. Betz provided me his „go“ to continue the lengtheninng up to 11cm last week. He was very happy about my gait and my bone consolidation but he also said that it will take me another 3 months to walk on crutches :(
However, I put a lot of thoughts into it and have decided to stop today at 10,76 cm.
Reason 1:
I should have reached at least my initial goal of 173cm. In the morning I was already at 172 although my back is still not straight. My PT guess that I should gain about 2-3 cm through a straight back. So I should be fine at this department.
Reason 2:
My femur should be now about 52,1cm long which is quite long for my current height and I dont want that i looks More strange than it could already looks for some people.
Reason 3:
If I am really gonna miss this 0,3 cm I can do the tibias and add them rather to them instead of the femurs. My tibias are 33,5cm so I can easy add 5-6,5 cm in a secound LL to them.
This is a current picture of my proportions right know.
https://imgur.com/a/FSVQmcO
Keep you updated
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PS: what do you guys think? Looking forward to your opinions!
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Congrats. A side picture with underwear would be more accurate to judge proportions as you surely have duckass and a front pic with your torso tilting forward makes your legs appear shorter compared to torso.
Again, congrats
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I don't see anything weird about your legs, however your arms are shorts.
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I don't see anything weird about your legs, however your arms are shorts.
youre right, but lets not implant unnecessary insecurities in OP's mind after this entire femur ordeal
OP, you need to get that body composition under control. now that youre taller you need to get serious about physical exercise
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youre right, but lets not implant unnecessary insecurities in OP's mind after this entire femur ordeal
OP, you need to get that body composition under control. now that youre taller you need to get serious about physical exercise
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Thanks for the advice and indeed I still do my leg exercise Program in the gym but only 3 times per week now. The same applies for PT which I have reduced to 3 times per week as well. Nevertheless, I am progressing very well so far.
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Day 17 post-clicking
Its now almost 2,5 weeks after I have stopped to click and I am doing very well. I have stopped with all medical drugs 3 days ago. I still take the vitamine. However, I dont have any pain at all and no stiffness anymore!! I am very suprised how quick my body has started to recover :) lets hope that this will continue.
I am walking without cruntches at home and my PT is starting to do some agility exercises. My duck ass has improved as well. It is still there but I am more and more optimistic that I will get competly rid of it….
My focus is on improving my gait further (i can already walk proper for a couple of meters) and stretching to reduce the duck ass. I will upload a new pic in the next days.
I am still so happy that things are turning to become more and more easy and finally everything what the docs have predicted has come true :)
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Congrats on your progress! Glad to hear it's gone well.
Can we get updated pictures now that you've finished lengthening (only if you're comfortable)?
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Congrats on your progress! Glad to hear it's gone well.
Can we get updated pictures now that you've finished lengthening (only if you're comfortable)?
as promised
https://imgur.com/a/2qCU6sT
still a little duck ass but no wide legs at all..
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Good diary. I did femurs with Betz and Becker last month. My experience in short is this. Surgery went as smooth as possible, anesthesia, you wake up a few hours later a bit dizzy then 5 minutes later you're alright in your hospital room. Hospital is nice and clean but still a hospital (=depressing place). After a week they take you to the rehab center. My GOD. That place is SO GOOD. You feel like you're on a vacation. It's some place in the outskirts of Freiburg that's like a hotel and a clinic altogether and it's just incredible with restaurants, fountains, fresh air and trees. My room was incredible. For the important parts though. I only met Betz twice but I'm kinda glad I got 'sent' to Becker because he's super fast to respond all the time and overall a super cool guy. I heard it's a pain getting answers from Betz after surgery. Dr Becker, his successor, came like every two days and always responded super fast to my messages, something that continues now, 4 weeks after surgery. In the hospital, there was zero pain at all. Worst part was having to go to the toilet. First few days, you're unsure in your capabilities to walk and you get rushed by impatient nurses to sit in a tight MEGA UNCOMFORTABLE toilet seat and take a while having constipation from all the painkillers. That was honestly a terrible experience. Most of the nurses were bad, as if they don't understand you've just had both of your legs broken, a few were very nice. Clicking, for the first few days was a breeze. Sod's law of course, as I went home after 2 weeks, it became my nightmare. I couldn't get the right technique and angle and it was super tedious, painful and slow reducing me to the point of wanting to scream. It's really important to find your position and technique, something I am unable to do even now although better. Everyday I was waking up with horror on my face knowing I have to click again. Terrible position, I bend my knee to the point of pain and it doesn't click. Depression. Then I called Dr Becker on facetime and he sorted it out in 3 minutes. Still it kinda hurts but at least it clicks. Then I found out I was going very slow and the right way is to grind your teeth and push as fast as you can but my left leg for some reason is still hard to find a position with. I am super desperate for clicking to get better and for me to finally be able to click like a normal man. I really hate stretching too. 3-4 hours a day of this, I hate waking up knowing I have to do it. It's a part of the game though, what can you do. Very used to life on crutches now. My initial gap was 0.6mm. I should have lengthened about 1.4cm so far so I should be 2cm taller. Afraid to measure though lol. It's been a very tough first few weeks for me, praying it gets better. As I said before, this is an experience for animals. None of us here is normal wanting to do this. I blame it all on society driving us to such insane lengths just so we could 'fit in'.
How is it going, 2 months on now?
I truly hope things are better
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as promised
https://imgur.com/a/2qCU6sT
still a little duck ass but no wide legs at all..
Nice! How is consolidation going?
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How is it going, 2 months on now?
I truly hope things are better
Thanks! Its about 6 weeks now, to be precise ;)
I am doing very very well! My duck ass has improved a lot and my gait is getting better and better. I have done some x-rays this week which show that my bone is consolidating as well. My local orthopedist was also very happy about the status quo. He agreed that my bone should consolidate and he also mentioned that I should be able to get rid of my duck ass completely but it will take further training and time. In the meantime I have reduced my gym time to 3-4 visits per week, starting to put the focus on muscles increase. Beside of that I take care to walk a lot (5 km per day). Betz/Becker allowed me to start walking more and more without crunches. So far I am doing it inside only, like at home, restaurants, gym etc. If it goes on like this, I am optimistic that I should be like before latest at Christmas time. I will keep you updated.
Here you go for my latest x-rays.
https://imgur.com/a/XF1dQC5
I can only recommend to be patient in particular in the last period of your lengthening. For me this was the hardest time apart of the first 2-3 weeks.
Wish you all the best with your personal lengthening.
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Congrats on all the progress, that's amazing!
Did you ever have any concerns going over the 8cm limit? Or you never felt it's an issue?
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Congrats on all the progress, that's amazing!
Did you ever have any concerns going over the 8cm limit? Or you never felt it's an issue?
Thanks!! No I didnt have any concerns going over 8cm as Dr. Betz had so many positive best practices which other patient that I have simply trust him.
My duck ass has already started with 5cm so that 8cm was just a number for me like 7 or 9 cm. So it was never an issue for me.
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Thanks!! No I didnt have any concerns going over 8cm as Dr. Betz had so many positive best practices which other patient that I have simply trust him.
My duck ass has already started with 5cm so that 8cm was just a number for me like 7 or 9 cm. So it was never an issue for me.
What is the "real" reason that betz bone allows over 8 and precice just cap it at 8cm? Seems really good but if a patient can't get beyond 8cm, then precice is cheaper i think?
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What is the "real" reason that betz bone allows over 8 and precice just cap it at 8cm? Seems really good but if a patient can't get beyond 8cm, then precice is cheaper i think?
No clue why they have designed precise with this Limit at 8cm. I think it is not a matter of the patient, everyone can go over 8cm. Its all about time and stretching.
In General I would never use a non-weight bearing nail regardless how much I want to lengthend. Beeing in a wheelchair for months kills your muscles and comes with other risks as well.
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No clue why they have designed precise with this Limit at 8cm. I think it is not a matter of the patient, everyone can go over 8cm. Its all about time and stretching.
In General I would never use a non-weight bearing nail regardless how much I want to lengthend. Beeing in a wheelchair for months kills your muscles and comes with other risks as well.
Did you feel really tight after 8cm? or slow down the lengthening after 8cm?
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In General I would never use a non-weight bearing nail regardless how much I want to lengthend. Beeing in a wheelchair for months kills your muscles and comes with other risks as well.
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Did you feel really tight after 8cm? or slow down the lengthening after 8cm?
I did not feel more or less tight after 8 cm as before. I have started to lengthen with 20 clicks which is about 1mm per day and reduced it down to 15 clicks after three weeks. I kept this until the end without skipping a day. Thats why I was quite fast lengthening almost 11cm in only 120 days. But this does not mean that it was easy. As mentioned in my diary I have worked a lot (stretching, walking, gym, sauna etc.) to handle the stiffness and muscles problems during the lentghening process.
Tomorrow it will be 60 days post-clickling and I am now almost fully recovered, maybe up to 90%. I am still swinging a bit with my hips but this will disappear as well with the time.
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Now, it has been almost three months post clicking, so I just want to share a new update with you guys.
I am now walking without crutches almost 4 weeks and I am able to do almost everything of my daily routines like before. My duck ass got improved very much and is only visible in front of the mirror for people who have the eyes for :D Since a couple of days I lost every pain in the lower back when walking, so that I can walk as much as I want. The only limited factor is my speedness as I still need to focus on my gait, to avoid swinging, I am walking a little bit slower than a normal person. Nevertheless, my PT told me that it is just a matter of time when I will get fully recovered in this regard as well.
I have uploaded a video of my gait (it is about 2 weeks old) and current status quo of my duck ass (last pic):
https://imgur.com/a/QF9Al4T
As mentioned, I am now focusing on my gait and to do that I need to strengthen my muscles, stability and agility in the legs. Therefore, I have integrate some stability and agility exercises for example with a balance pad. Here is a small video with one exercise (was quite bad on this day :) )
https://imgur.com/a/fcRXZjt
It is still a long journey ahead of me to get able to walk 100% normally and to do any sports but I am very surprised how quick the recovery comes after the lengthening.
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Wow what an amazing journey and progress! Think you might be inspiring more people to go for 10-11cm ;)
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Now, it has been almost three months post clicking, so I just want to share a new update with you guys.
I have uploaded a video of my gait (it is about 2 weeks old) and current status quo of my duck ass (last pic):
https://imgur.com/a/QF9Al4T
Congrats with your walking!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNFzfwLM72c
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Hey taller, whats the weight limit for the nail?, im 82kg so is normal or heavy? You loose wheight with the surgery?
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Hey taller, whats the weight limit for the nail?, im 82kg so is normal or heavy? You loose wheight with the surgery?
It would be better to reach out to the docs for this questions. I know that they have different nail sizes for every weight. I had 79kg and lost about 8 kg through the surgery.
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Hi guys,
I was visiting Dr. Becker beginning of this week, almost 4 months post-clicking to do some x-rays and a kind of "final" status-quo discussion with him. The xrays show a good bone consolidation which means that the gaps are fulfilled with new bone, so that now the bone is doing the majority of the weight bearing. This has also improved my gait further. I am still swinging very very slightly but this is only a question of time and further stretching / strengthening abdominal and gluteus muscles until I will get rid of this completely as well. My duck ass is also almost gone. A doctor would be able to see it but a normal person wouldn't. In public, gym, sauna etc. nobody notice that I had a surgery and I have now the same walking speed like before. Dr. Becker said that I should be able to start jogging in three months and playing soccer about this time as well. My nail removal should be able in autumn/winter 2023, if my bone consolidation continue on this level.
I personally don't notice anymore that I am restricted in my daily routines because I can do almost everything (grabbing something from the ground, tying shoes etc.). I am still stretching every day about 30-45 minutes and going to the gym 2-3 times per week doing some stability, agility exercises (standing on one leg, stair climbing etc.) and to swim and visiting the sauna.
Finally, I had a good discussion with Dr. Becker about the key for success of this surgery. He means that the most important thing is to lengthen along your personal balance which he has described as the following. On the one hand, you are lengthening the bone through the nail which is quite easy and a straight forward process. On the other hand you need to keep following the new bone length with your muscles through intensive stretching and this is starting from day 1 after surgery! Of course, you will not be able to lengthen your bones and muscles simultaneous which is understandable but you should not allow the bone length to outrun the muscle length. If you let this happen you will suffering and have a much longer recovery period. This is exactly what the most people are struggling because they simply did not keep disciplined through the whole process. Being disciplined will be different for everybody where the one person only need 3-4 hours stretching per day the other might need 5 hours.I personally now know how difficult it is and I also had this moments where I skipped the stretching for one day but honestly I always have regret it the day afterwards :( :( So I would fully agree to this view that finding your own balance is the key for a successful LL. This does not mean that you will avoid wide legs or duck ass at all but it will happen very late and not escalate in crippling you for months.
As I am now almost fully recovered, I will keep away from this forum more and more and invest more time in my new life :) I wish you folks all the best in realizing your personal dream and have only the following advice to you:
1. Choose a weight-bearing nail (it will be much more "comfortable" to lengthen larger amounts and I am sure that the recovery is easier as well as you avoid the time in a wheelchair)
2. Choose a reputable doctor with enough experience
3. Follow the instructions of your doc!
Saying this, I wish you all the best a merry christmas to whom is celebrating and to everyone a comfortable year-end.
Cheers,
Taller90
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How are you going to correct that duck ass position? Is it even possible to correct 100%?
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How are you going to correct that duck ass position? Is it even possible to correct 100%?
Did you read my entire diary ;)
Yes, it is possible by stretching the different muscles of your quadriceps and strengthening abdominal and gluteus muscles.
Its slowly but the only way.
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Congratulations Taller!
Can’t wait to begin my journey in May. I wish you all the best brother
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I have a few questions, So you lengthened around 11 cm right? How much did you pay for it. Did you stay in Germany the whole time? Also how much time did it take to return to the basic routine?
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A short update from my side 5,5 months post-lengthening:
https://imgur.com/CnCxCfW
As you can see my walk is almost 100% normal and I am able to do again a squad (so far without any weight :) ). I don't have any more pain, stiffness, duck ass or anything else. As already said, when it comes to the normal daily activities I am not restricted anymore and this although I have almost lengthened 11cm. As mentioned in my previous posts I am convinced that this is due to my rigorous stretching and gym exercises which I have done through the whole lengthening process without any break. However, my next challenge will be to do jogging but for that I will await the next x-ray which I am gonna do in April and hopefully get the "go" from Dr. Becker that the bone is fully consolidated. At my last x-ray in December the bone has already been almost consolidated. Nevertheless, I have already tried to do some short runs like to catch-up a bus or metro and I did not have break me anything ;D ;D It has worked but I felt - and I guess that's how it also has looked like - like running as 80 year old man, fluently but a slowly.
I am still very convinced that I should be able to play soccer and other sports like before. Let see how my progress will be in a couple of months.
Would I do the surgery again? Of course! Its a very hard exhaustive journey of half a year but after that you are able to live your life like before and can enjoy your new height :)
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Man, you look amazing. Doing the surgery on July, videos like this gives me hope!
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You look great man. Its clear you're going to recover 100%. Congrats on putting the work in and getting to a great end result.
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Size of them leg muscles too 8)
Great work bro!
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Size of them leg muscles too 8)
Great work bro!
Thanks to all of you. I had strong legs before the surgery as well but I lost about 7 kg due to the surgery which mostly were muscles.
Therefore, I am very happy to get at least some of them back but it was hard ongoing work!
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Just a short update, now almost 11 months post-surgery and 7 months post-lengthening
I don´t have any stiffness or other muscular problems anymore. I have been visiting Dr. Becker 2 weeks ago to do some new x-rays and the bone consolidation went also very well so far, so that I am now back to improve my jogging skills. Right now, I am at 6 km/h for 15 minutes, will see how far I can come back until summer. If everything went well, I should be able to do the removal this autumn. I am now also considering to do the tibias. In fact really nobody in the daily life noticed my new Tibia/Femur-ratio but it bothered me personal because someone who has the eyes for can see that me femur (51,5cm) is a bit to long for my tibia (33,5cm).
However, I will need to see, if I am really going to do another surgery as well but if so then I will only do 5 or 6 cm on tibia. This would boost my Tibia/Femur-ratio to around 76% which is at least close to ideal. I will keep you updated.
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Just a short update, now almost 11 months post-surgery and 7 months post-lengthening
I don´t have any stiffness or other muscular problems anymore. I have been visiting Dr. Becker 2 weeks ago to do some new x-rays and the bone consolidation went also very well so far, so that I am now back to improve my jogging skills. Right now, I am at 6 km/h for 15 minutes, will see how far I can come back until summer. If everything went well, I should be able to do the removal this autumn. I am now also considering to do the tibias. In fact really nobody in the daily life noticed my new Tibia/Femur-ratio but it bothered me personal because someone who has the eyes for can see that me femur (51,5cm) is a bit to long for my tibia (33,5cm).
However, I will need to see, if I am really going to do another surgery as well but if so then I will only do 5 or 6 cm on tibia. This would boost my Tibia/Femur-ratio to around 76% which is at least close to ideal. I will keep you updated.
The fact you did over 10cm and recovered is great. Well done brother
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It's really inspiring and your recovery gives me strength for doing this surgery. I'm really happy for you man! I hope one day I have enough courage to do LL
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wow 12 cm in a single segment is inspiring and unheard of, I have always known betzbone extension is 12 cm but achieving full nail extension is a sporadic occurrence. Please keep posting man
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If you have recent imaging data please put it at this thread. Redact any information that could be used to dox you.
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Hey Taller90 ! congrats on those 11cm, it looks like a hard but worth journey.
I am doing LL with Becker in January 2024, I am 163cm and looking for 10cm.
All of the photos you posted are not accessible anymore, the links send to 404 page. Would you mind to post again some of them ? to see the before-after and proportions ?
Thanks !!
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Update 1 year-post Clicking
Hey folks, it is already one year ago when I have been reaching my current new height of 173,5 cm. I am more then happy to have been doing this surgery. In my case everything went well and I am now fully recovered. My bones are fully consolidated, so that I can do the removal soon.
As some questions have been shown up regarding the ratio, of course this is (with 0,65) out of the normal range but I don´t have any problems walkin, jogging or doing other sport and more important when I am wearing clothes nobody is noticing it. Only when I am nked it looks a bit off but even then nobody asked me when I was in a wellness center going to a sauna etc.
I will try to upload some fresh photos when I am gonna have some time. Finally, I stick with my personal believe that weight-bearing nails are a game changer as it allows you to start with the recovery immediatly after the surgery and this enables you to reach long distances and a better recovery at all. There is a reason why professional Athletes are trying to start with their rehabilitation treatment as soon as possible after an injury. Weeks or months in a wheel chair is the worst you can do.
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The PT is included in the cost or is extra money?..
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Update 1 year-post Clicking
Hey folks, it is already one year ago when I have been reaching my current new height of 173,5 cm. I am more then happy to have been doing this surgery. In my case everything went well and I am now fully recovered. My bones are fully consolidated, so that I can do the removal soon.
As some questions have been shown up regarding the ratio, of course this is (with 0,65) out of the normal range but I don´t have any problems walkin, jogging or doing other sport and more important when I am wearing clothes nobody is noticing it. Only when I am nked it looks a bit off but even then nobody asked me when I was in a wellness center going to a sauna etc.
I will try to upload some fresh photos when I am gonna have some time. Finally, I stick with my personal believe that weight-bearing nails are a game changer as it allows you to start with the recovery immediatly after the surgery and this enables you to reach long distances and a better recovery at all. There is a reason why professional Athletes are trying to start with their rehabilitation treatment as soon as possible after an injury. Weeks or months in a wheel chair is the worst you can do.
why are you a bit off when nked? your hands and body is much shorter than your legs??
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hey ! I'm 163 doing 10cm with Becker in january so same situation.
-you say you are fully recovered : no more duck ass ? Walking looks/feels normal ?
- you say legs look off only when nked. How about arms ? is there sometimes a feeling of weird proportions, even if very small ? is that feeling less strong than with legs ? and appart from how it looks, do you ever "feel" that your arms are short ?
Thanks !!
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10 cm is a huge accomplishment. i can barely go through 8cm. i got less motivated day by day. just staying home all day. i was a delivery driver before this so maybe why im so bored just waiting.
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Glad to hear you are fully recovered! Looking forward to the pictures.
I'm going for femurs on 5 December.
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If the recovery is boring well is good..
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Now, I would be able to do homeoffice but at the beginning it would have been very difficult to work 8 Hours even at home, if you want to do all of Dr. betzs instructions. One hour PT, one hour gym, 3-5 times stretching (which usually Takes 1 hour as well) will keep you busy the most of your day. At the beginning I have needed about 1 hour for 18-20 klicks on both legs. Now, I am done in five minutes :D
So if you want to work you will need to do less and this will probably effect your recovery time
Awesome results you are an inspiration to me.
In this post you mention stretching 3-4times a day which took you 1 hour + gym and so on. Recently you said you did stretch 3-4hours each day. What is now true?
Was it possible to work in the homeoffice after the 2nd week in terms of pain?
I also want 10cm in Femurs. But wonder about the proportio s being off after.
I'm glad you made it :)
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why are you a bit off when nked? your hands and body is much shorter than your legs??
It is just because of the new femur/tibia ratio. Obviously everyone with a medicine background notice that this does not look normal. My arms are as my body was enough long before as well
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Awesome results you are an inspiration to me.
In this post you mention stretching 3-4times a day which took you 1 hour + gym and so on. Recently you said you did stretch 3-4hours each day. What is now true?
Was it possible to work in the homeoffice after the 2nd week in terms of pain?
I also want 10cm in Femurs. But wonder about the proportio s being off after.
I'm glad you made it :)
Thanks.
Yes, you can do Homeoffice the pain is feasible. The time is more the critical part. I had the luck focus on the lengthening and spent the whole day with stretching, physio, walking, gym etc but I lengthen a lot and that in a quite short time. So maybe if you do less and longer you would have more time to do other things like work but this might be different from person to person. You need to figure out how much you need. Nobody can give you the right blueprint for that…
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nice thread. ive always wonder how they do the clicking. ive only seen one video of it. it seems ok. just heard about the pain clicking and nail being infected. still this might be my next preferred choice. people seeing u with duck ass at the gym is ok to you?
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Hope you are doing well ! I've been following and interacting with your posts for some time now; I have my surgery in February with Becker and payed everything, so there is nothing stoping this except if I decide to.
With all those treads talking bad stuff about betzbone, a little anxiety builds up, but journals like yours help me keep confident.
How are you feeling now ? mobility, pain ? Have you any regrets up until this point ? Do you consider that your life has improved ?
Thanks again you are a great motivation !
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Hope you are doing well ! I've been following and interacting with your posts for some time now; I have my surgery in February with Becker and payed everything, so there is nothing stoping this except if I decide to.
With all those treads talking bad stuff about betzbone, a little anxiety builds up, but journals like yours help me keep confident.
How are you feeling now ? mobility, pain ? Have you any regrets up until this point ? Do you consider that your life has improved ?
Thanks again you are a great motivation !
In the meantime I had the removal as well and I am on a good way to get to the conditions I had before the removal surgery which was a more or less a fully recovery. Before the removal, I was able to do every sport, run, jump - well the only thing I was not able to do where squads due to my proportions I would have fallen back. Beside of that I felt like I never had done any surgery before. No muscle stiffness, pain or similar anymore.
I don´t know where this bull ting regarding betzbone is coming from. In fact it is currently the best nail in the market because it is weight bearing and already proven over a long time. Will see how the precise Max is going to be and if they got rid of the corrosion problems Stryde has, I would personally feel uncomfortable using it from the early beginning but that's just my personal 2 cents.
Every other nail might make sense if you go for "normaler" distances but, if you want to do longer lengthening you need to stick with a weight bearing nail. I don´t know how crippled I would get, if I would have been forced to be in a wheelchair the whole lengthening. Early and regular mobilization is the most important beside of stretching of course ;)
So good luck with your surgery!
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Thank you for your reply, this is very helpful ! I fell relieved.
I am kind of in your situation: 163, hoping for 10, with a little anxiety about proportions but prioritizing height since I consider myself to be on the "too short" spectrum.
In your diary, there are several links to photos you've post, but all of them are 404 pages. Would it be possible to ask for some photos of before/after, in regard to proportions? It would be incredibly helpful since I'm starting at the same point.
Best regards !
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Will you do anything to address your wingspan being 18 cm shorter than your height? Admire your dedication!
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Will you do anything to address your wingspan being 18 cm shorter than your height? Admire your dedication!
Indeed this was my only concern but right now I am at a difference of 14cm (I am at 175,5cm height at the moment) and so far I am totally fine. Will check it further and stop with the tibia lengthening before it start to look weird.
However, so far all people (doc, friends etc say that I could go for another couple of cm). One reason might be because i am not tiny :) and have a good torso length which fits to a height of someone who is 178-180.
But I will not go for arm lengthening. For sure!
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Guys I just wanted to let you know, I am done with tibia LL. I ended up at 5cm and although it is just a couple of cm my leg proportions look much better and are now back to the "normal" range. My LBR is excellent, too. It was not an easy decision as when the end was coming closer I was indeed thinking of doing 5,5 or 6 cm to improve the ratio even more and be closer to the 180 but then my arms would start to look short, so I have decided with the doc to stop at 5. It is a shame because my body would accept much more I guess - the lengthening was quite ok until 5 cm - but it is not worth to push it too much. So finally, I have push it to the maximum my body proportion allow it and I am really happy with the result. Overall I have lengthened about 15,70cm and ended up at a proper 5´10 (177,8-178,3 cm)
What is different to the femur LL is that I have the feeling that the recovery goes much faster. I am already able to walk without crutches and normally, if I walk slowly and concentrate myself. I do this just at home and in the gym but outside I am still strictly using crutches which looks weird to other people as they do not see why I am using them ;D ;D
Can´t wait until I can drop them off at all and live my life like before - just taller 8) 8) 8)
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So, you went from 162.5 to 178 (15.5 cm total lengthening) and end up with -18 cm armspan? Does it mean that your armspan is 160 cm long? If that's true, than you had -1 inch negative ape index at your original height, which is kinda rare for males.
Now, at -18 cm armspan, it's very interesting how do you look nked barefeet in boxers and in clothes with tucked in shirt with pants set at waist level and wearing 3 cm heeled shoes.
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So, you went from 162.5 to 178 (15.5 cm total lengthening) and end up with -18 cm armspan? Does it mean that your armspan is 160 cm long? If that's true, than you had -1 inch negative ape index at your original height, which is kinda rare for males.
Now, at -18 cm armspan, it's very interesting how do you look nked barefeet in boxers and in clothes with tucked in shirt with pants set at waist level and wearing 3 cm heeled shoes.
I look good my body length 88,5 fits perfect to my new leg length (89cm). Just my ape index ist weird from a number perspective. I was unsure before as well how this is going to look like but everyone who see me now gives me compliments. Maybe it does not look off because I am not the tiny guy who have some muscles. On the other hand there is some research around attractiveness and ratios and the arm is the most unimportant one. Of course I would be even better with 8cm longer arms but as said nobody notice anything negative re my arm length.
So I would do it again, if I would be 162 with mini legs and normal torso.
Proportions are important but should be taken too precise. The range of natural human looks is wide.
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So, you went from 162.5 to 178 (15.5 cm total lengthening) and end up with -18 cm armspan? Does it mean that your armspan is 160 cm long? If that's true, than you had -1 inch negative ape index at your original height, which is kinda rare for males.
Now, at -18 cm armspan, it's very interesting how do you look nked barefeet in boxers and in clothes with tucked in shirt with pants set at waist level and wearing 3 cm heeled shoes.
… with3-4 cm heels it is slowly starting to look unusual. So I am not wearing my airmax anymore but normal sneakers/shoes which have heels usually around 2-2,5cm are fine. Of course barfeet it looks the best.
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I understand that you had no room to match your wingspan post-lengthening as it was already an inch shorter compared to your starting height but 6 inches of lengthening is kinda too much anyways, disregarding the armspan factor.
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Taller 90, How much did you lengthen the femurs and the tibias?
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Taller 90, How much did you lengthen the femurs and the tibias?
Hey I am happy to share my experiences and answer questions but please read my diary first….
Don’t wanna to repeat everything.
Thanks
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Hi Taller90, can you talk more about how your femur recovery went versus what you are now experiencing with your Tibias. I am super interested as I had Femurs done with Becker in January 24, and want to do Tibias in January 25. I am recovering well ( 7.2cm on Femurs) but it has been slower than I had hoped for the stiffness to go away. No running yet! Any info comparing the two would be great. Ta
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@average hello how are you. Is the clicking painfull?
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Hi, the clicking initially takes time, especially the first 2cm, taking 14-20 mins a side. Then it got very easy, getting done in less than 5mins per side. It is not painful. The noise is freaky to others but I had no problem with it. It becomes a morning ritual….. wake up, shower, light stretch etc.
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Light stretch 5mins, then click!
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I meet another becker patient. It seems smooth with your journeys. Im not sure what i can do. Of Becker of Birkholtz.🤔
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I can only speak about Dr Becker. It took me a few years to decide, doing research online etc. No one really can make this decision for you…..it’s a long time commitment….. but I have to say, being 7 cm taller from 167.7cm to 174.9cm has being fantastic for my confidence and social enjoyment. Next is tibia to get close to 180cm.
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Hi Taller90, can you talk more about how your femur recovery went versus what you are now experiencing with your Tibias. I am super interested as I had Femurs done with Becker in January 24, and want to do Tibias in January 25. I am recovering well ( 7.2cm on Femurs) but it has been slower than I had hoped for the stiffness to go away. No running yet! Any info comparing the two would be great. Ta
Regarding my femur recovery I can’t add anything to my diary but I was finally recovered when I had my rod removal (1,5 year after lengthening). The tibia recovery is much easier for the muscles. The only issue is the pressure on the ankles so that I can not walk so much per day as I was hoping for. 2000-3000 steps is my limit at the moment, of course without crutches. I need to wait until the bone gap has fully consolidated before I can go ahead with more steps. Overall all in plan I guess as I have stopped lengthening three months ago, so hopefully in another 2-3 months I should be back to normal life. Obviously sports, jogging etc will still take a while I guess.
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photo you uploaded is deleted. can you upload new photos. also what was the cost?
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I'm sorry to have to say this.
I don't understand why you're insisting that you look good. I've met you in person, and several patients have pointed out, right to your face, that your arms didn’t look quite right—even before you did the tibia lengthening. It's risky to tell others that everything looks good when it really doesn't. You almost couldn't hold your crutches properly because your arms were too short compared to your leg length.
Now, with the tibia lengthening, it’s bound to look even more disproportionate, like a T-Rex.
It seems rather arrogant to keep saying, again and again, that you think you look good and that everyone else has said the same. That's simply not true.
I’d suggest you post a picture and be open to receiving genuine comments from people about how you look, rather than just ignoring the reality.
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Thank you for this diary, people are being way too over-analytical with the proportions, no one apart from this forum cares, in reality, no one gives a crap.
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Part of the reason why people lengthen is because their height insecurities, the disproportion between wingspan and height does come into effect at a certain point and can become an insecurity itself. I kept it at a 1:1 ration based on my wingspan and current height, and I'm glad i stopped where I did.
People are giving their honest opinion of someone they actually met and to others that are considering this procedure should see, good or bad feedback. People will notice this so called over analytical perception, if you're standing next to them at same height but you arms are 5-6 inches shorter than theirs and you have tiny hands.
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I'm sorry to have to say this.
I don't understand why you're insisting that you look good. I've met you in person, and several patients have pointed out, right to your face, that your arms didn’t look quite right—even before you did the tibia lengthening. It's risky to tell others that everything looks good when it really doesn't. You almost couldn't hold your crutches properly because your arms were too short compared to your leg length.
Now, with the tibia lengthening, it’s bound to look even more disproportionate, like a T-Rex.
It seems rather arrogant to keep saying, again and again, that you think you look good and that everyone else has said the same. That's simply not true.
I’d suggest you post a picture and be open to receiving genuine comments from people about how you look, rather than just ignoring the reality.
I am not sure if you have really met me as from the patients I have met there was just one who had this opinion. In fact I have met with some after the second surgery as well and they did not see it like you said. Also I am pretty sure that those would have the decency to tell it in person to me instead of posting it in an anonym forum… Anyway I am not here to get ratings on a forum which is super analytical and sensitive on proportions due to their research. I am here to share my experience in lengthening. I think the most will always „destroy“ some of their proportional figures, either the wingspan to body ratio, t/f ratio or leg to body ratio when they are doing this surgery. The majority will start from normal figures, that’s fact. In my case it is the wingspan to body ratio which was 1:1 before the surgery, so „normal“. However even now I am far away from T-Rex arms, I can functionally do everything like before….
But, I had not a normal leg to body ratio before the surgery which is now in particular in the perfect range according to most studies. So, if I would have to chose between having to short legs compared to my body height or having a decent leg to body and healthy t/F ratio with slightly short arms compared to my peers, I would go again for those surgeries. Before the surgery the people looked at me because I was really short and had short legs compared to my body. It is not that I had problems with that, I had always good portion of self-confidence, probably even too much as I have never seen me as being too small. However, I have noticed that now I don’t raise any attention when I am walking in public.
That’s why I say, I look good
What counts for me is the real life and the before after comparison.
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I am not sure if you have really met me as from the patients I have met there was just one who had this opinion. In fact I have met with some after the second surgery as well and they did not see it like you said. Also I am pretty sure that those would have the decency to tell it in person to me instead of posting it in an anonym forum… Anyway I am not here to get ratings on a forum which is super analytical and sensitive on proportions due to their research. I am here to share my experience in lengthening. I think the most will always „destroy“ some of their proportional figures, either the wingspan to body ratio, t/f ratio or leg to body ratio when they are doing this surgery. The majority will start from normal figures, that’s fact. In my case it is the wingspan to body ratio which was 1:1 before the surgery, so „normal“. However even now I am far away from T-Rex arms, I can functionally do everything like before….
But, I had not a normal leg to body ratio before the surgery which is now in particular in the perfect range according to most studies. So, if I would have to chose between having to short legs compared to my body height or having a decent leg to body and healthy t/F ratio with slightly short arms compared to my peers, I would go again for those surgeries. Before the surgery the people looked at me because I was really short and had short legs compared to my body. It is not that I had problems with that, I had always good portion of self-confidence, probably even too much as I have never seen me as being too small. However, I have noticed that now I don’t raise any attention when I am walking in public.
That’s why I say, I look good
What counts for me is the real life and the before after comparison.
Hello taller90 with both of your surgery did you have any no-union problems?
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Hello taller90 with both of your surgery did you have any no-union problems?
Not so far and even the tibias have almost growth together. Think they will recover fully as well with the time going on