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Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Discussions => Topic started by: Gerre568 on August 08, 2021, 04:35:20 PM
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Hey guys, do you know of anyone that has done a very modest lengthening? Like 2-3.5 cm max.
Im considering doing only a few cm for a few reasons;
-Im about 176cm currently and I believe I will be happy looking around 180 with good posture a and good pair of shoes.
- Im a pretty serious athlete (not pro) and I dont want my balance/agility to be off
- To avoid hip/knee pain
Question is is it worth it for this very modest height increase?
Do you think its possible to recover 100% for sports with only 2-3 cm?
Thanks, I appreciate your answers
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Hey guys, do you know of anyone that has done a very modest lengthening? Like 2-3.5 cm max.
Im considering doing only a few cm for a few reasons;
-Im about 176cm currently and I believe I will be happy looking around 180 with good posture a and good pair of shoes.
- Im a pretty serious athlete (not pro) and I dont want my balance/agility to be off
- To avoid hip/knee pain
Question is is it worth it for this very modest height increase?
Do you think its possible to recover 100% for sports with only 2-3 cm?
Thanks, I appreciate your answers
May I ask what sports you are doing? Thanks.
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MMA and some weightlifting/calisthenics
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yes you can recover 100% for weightlifting - do you wear lifts??
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Im more worried about martial arts, not so much weightlifting,
I used to wear lifts but they look too awkward
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well that's the trade off - doubtful you'd get back to the power & co-ordination for martial arts - but u'd be 179 - would depend on your level etc
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Hey guys, do you know of anyone that has done a very modest lengthening? Like 2-3.5 cm max.
Im considering doing only a few cm for a few reasons;
-Im about 176cm currently and I believe I will be happy looking around 180 with good posture a and good pair of shoes.
- Im a pretty serious athlete (not pro) and I dont want my balance/agility to be off
- To avoid hip/knee pain
Question is is it worth it for this very modest height increase?
Do you think its possible to recover 100% for sports with only 2-3 cm?
Thanks, I appreciate your answers
You will easily get 5cm with 100% recovery. Lengthening will take 2 months with 1 more month of recovery.
Depending on your progress, 6cm is very possible if you stretch rigorously.
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Hey guys, do you know of anyone that has done a very modest lengthening? Like 2-3.5 cm max.
Im considering doing only a few cm for a few reasons;
-Im about 176cm currently and I believe I will be happy looking around 180 with good posture a and good pair of shoes.
- Im a pretty serious athlete (not pro) and I dont want my balance/agility to be off
- To avoid hip/knee pain
Question is is it worth it for this very modest height increase?
Do you think its possible to recover 100% for sports with only 2-3 cm?
Thanks, I appreciate your answers
The answer to both of your questions is a big no.
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You won’t notice a height difference until absolute 4cm minimum.
This isn’t a nose job. Don’t waste your money or time if you care about recovering back to high level or competitive sports. People do this as a last resort. Troll-ass question
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Like others have said, 2-3 cm is definitely not worth it and would be a poor use of money and unnecessary suffering.
The height only starts becoming noticeable to yourself and others at 4-5cm and doesn't become extremely noticeable until 6-7cm. Only do this surgery if you have no other option and are going for at least 5cm.
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This is also what I want, people think I am trolling when I say I only want a few cm. But I think most people who say this dont realize the extent of pain and recovery you will have to go through, this surgery is no joke.
Id say wait till the technology is better, maybe they will invent some sort of sole injections or something that easily adds 2-3cm, that would be pretty nice.
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it depends on one's starting height - 176 to 179/180 is certainly a noticeable and positive difference - with minimal recovery 😀
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Quite a lot of people have some sort of varus, valgus or rotational deformity. If you are correcting something like that at the same time then 3cm.is worth it. Otherwise I would aim for at least 4cm
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Dude breaking your legs for 2-3cm is not worth it especially at your height and athletic level man.
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Hey guys, do you know of anyone that has done a very modest lengthening? Like 2-3.5 cm max.
Im considering doing only a few cm for a few reasons;
-Im about 176cm currently and I believe I will be happy looking around 180 with good posture a and good pair of shoes.
- Im a pretty serious athlete (not pro) and I dont want my balance/agility to be off
- To avoid hip/knee pain
Question is is it worth it for this very modest height increase?
Do you think its possible to recover 100% for sports with only 2-3 cm?
Thanks, I appreciate your answers
Go for 5. Anything less than that makes no sense. And 5 is extremely safe. Everyone goes back to their life without any problem. I know a guy who had a leg length discrepancy , He had to lenghthen a lot( idont remember hw much though) ,He is into state level cricket.
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Go for 5. Anything less than that makes no sense. And 5 is extremely safe. Everyone goes back to their life without any problem. I know a guy who had a leg length discrepancy , He had to lenghthen a lot( idont remember hw much though) ,He is into state level cricket.
If I do internals 5cm on femurs will I get back my athletic ability 100%?
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No one will ever be able to tell anyone if they will be able to get 100% athletic ability back with total certainty. It depends on many factors, such as:
1. How your body copes with the process. Some people suffer greatly and develop wide legs at 2cm (I have seen it myself). Others go to 5cm with much less functional loss (I have seen it myself).
2. How old you are. If you're in your 30s you will, on average, naturally lose some athletic ability year on year. The average 34 year old will be less athletic than the average 33 year old, leg lengthening or not. Aiming for a 100% athletic recovery if you're older than 30 is quite futile.
3. Proportions before the surgery. If you have a very high T/F ration, say 88%, before surgery you can afford more femur lengthening before you fall out of the range that evolution came to consider, likely for a functional reason, desirable.
4. Complications during surgery. They can happen before you even get to 0.1cm.
5. What kind of sport you're into, as "athletic" ability can refer to so many things.
And I am sure there is more to it. Therefore there will be people who do 3cm and won't get back to 100% and then there will be some who will do 7cm and achieve the same performance levels as before the surgery, or even higher.
Having said all this, don't do it for 3cm. Yes, the 3cm are noticeable (my wife certainly noticed it when I returned to London and so did I) and yes, a good recovery is more likely than with a higher amount, but paying all the money and going for 3cm only because you want to do something like MMA? Bad idea :)
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Proportions before the surgery. If you have a very high T/F ration, say 88%, before surgery you can afford more femur lengthening before you fall out of the range that evolution came to consider, likely for a functional reason, desirable.
Well said, DonBones.
Btw, what is your tibia to femurs ratio, since you you are lengthening conservatively?
Also, what range do you think it falls out of normal?
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Well said, DonBones.
Btw, what is your tibia to femurs ratio, since you you are lengthening conservatively?
Also, what range do you think it falls out of normal?
Hey :) Hope you're doing well
Mine was 39 / 45.5 = 85.7% and the target is 39 / 50.5 =77.2%.
As for what falls out of normal, it's surprisingly difficult to say because findings / opinions aren't quite aligned.
For example, one study claims that "The average ratio of T/F was 0.80±0.03."1. Another study2 claims that the average F:T ratio is 1.21, which computes to an average T:F of 82.6, and a standard deviation of 0.05. Assuming normal is 1SD around the mean, this would compute to a normal range of 79% to 86%.
I am not sure why both studies produce different results; it may be due to ethnicity, gender or other factors. It is probably safe to say that the normal range is somewhere between 77%-79% to 83-86% for a random human out there.
As you can see, it appears to be rather difficult to do more than 5cm and remain above 77%, unless you start with long bones and in the high 80s. Visually it's no big deal for most people, because even 7cm is hard to spot when someone has clothes on, but as I said above evolution didn't pick a t:f ratio at random. If you're somewhere in the low to mid 80s, there must be some physical advantage to it. If we're talking athletics then it's one point to consider.
1. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/282126425_The_Association_of_Tibia_Femur_Ratio_and_Degenerative_Disease_of_the_Spine_Hips_and_Knees
2. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3633342/ (Table 2)
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So I'm lengthend over 9.3cm now, and other than myself and my orthopedic doctor, no one has noticed that I have "long femurs".
Instead, my girlfriend and one other friend noticed I have "long legs."
Anecdotally, what this means is that we are too concerned about our femur-tibia ratio. Visually, they are more concerned with our leg-body ratio.