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Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Discussions => Topic started by: Bjoern77 on March 19, 2021, 01:14:15 PM

Title: Can we Promote Bone Lengthening With Vibration Therapy?
Post by: Bjoern77 on March 19, 2021, 01:14:15 PM
Sounds interesting:

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This research will assess whether vibration therapy can increase bone-growth in length of the shorter leg in children aged 6-12 years with pre-existing leg length difference (LLD) which is being treated with a heel-raise or orthotics. Children will be referred by orthopaedic and musculoskeletal clinics, physiotherapists and orthotists. Children will have monthly measurement of leg length (LL) over a 13 month period (4 months pre-treatment, 3 months treatment, 6 months post-treatment) using a portable Ultrasound-laser system which is safe, accurate, reproducible and validated against standing x-ray measurement. ...

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03666975

I've already talked about it on HLT: https://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/threads/is-there-any-less-invasive-alternative-for-bone-lengthening-surgery.131185/#post-1962807
Title: Re: Can we Promote Bone Lengthening With Vibration Therapy?
Post by: - on March 20, 2021, 03:46:02 AM
Are you a child?
Title: Re: Can we Promote Bone Lengthening With Vibration Therapy?
Post by: Bjoern77 on March 20, 2021, 12:38:40 PM
Are you a child?

No, but I hope that it may also work with adult bones...  ;)
Title: Re: Can we Promote Bone Lengthening With Vibration Therapy?
Post by: Bantem on March 20, 2021, 09:33:18 PM
No, but I hope that it may also work with adult bones...  ;)
It might be something that only works with open growth plates
Title: Re: Can we Promote Bone Lengthening With Vibration Therapy?
Post by: Bjoern77 on March 20, 2021, 11:54:24 PM
It might be something that only works with open growth plates
Indeed. Difficult to say at the moment. So far R&D has been rudimentary and "conclusions" tentative at best...
Title: Re: Can we Promote Bone Lengthening With Vibration Therapy?
Post by: LuciusFox on March 21, 2021, 12:00:18 PM
Sounds interesting:

I've already talked about it on HLT: https://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/threads/is-there-any-less-invasive-alternative-for-bone-lengthening-surgery.131185/#post-1962807

http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S1413-78522011000300003&script=sci_arttext&tlng=en

The conclusion for this particular study was that using the three different intensities of LIPUS at 0.5, 1.0 W/cm2, and 1.5 W/cm^2 it was found that the emissions had no effect. There was no inhibitory effect and there was no stimulatory effect. If we were to be extremely accurate, there was a very slight stimulatory effect in the first two groups and an inhibitory effect in the third group, but the slight deviations were too small to be considered significant.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9651966

he longitudinal growth and bone density of the femur and tibia in young rats was measured after application of an ultrasound transducer emitting 1.5-MHz pulsed ultrasound (30 mW/cm2, SATA) for 20 min/day. After 28 days, no length difference was detected (< or = 2%) compared to the sham-treated leg or to unexposed controls.


Title: Re: Can we Promote Bone Lengthening With Vibration Therapy?
Post by: Bjoern77 on March 22, 2021, 01:56:56 PM
a shame  :(

Maybe the Chinese will come up with some crazy procedure. They are known for their persistence and pragmatism.
Title: Re: Can we Promote Bone Lengthening With Vibration Therapy?
Post by: Bantem on March 22, 2021, 08:23:22 PM
a shame  :(

Maybe the Chinese will come up with some crazy procedure. They are known for their persistence and pragmatism.
If LL wasn't banned by China, I am pretty sure their would be more competition and the cost might have been lower.
Title: Re: Can we Promote Bone Lengthening With Vibration Therapy?
Post by: Bjoern77 on March 23, 2021, 06:30:22 PM
If LL wasn't banned by China, I am pretty sure their would be more competition and the cost might have been lower.
I didn't know that it's banned in China.

Curious, especially when one thinks about their Lotus feet procedure. O_o
Title: Re: Can we Promote Bone Lengthening With Vibration Therapy?
Post by: Bantem on March 23, 2021, 10:54:05 PM
I didn't know that it's banned in China.

Curious, especially when one thinks about their Lotus feet procedure. O_o
They banned the surgery because there were too many scammers pretending to be doctors that acted like they knew what they were doing. Maybe if China had a short president things would be different