Limb Lengthening Forum
Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Discussions => Topic started by: Stadiometer, Esq on May 21, 2018, 02:03:33 PM
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thank you for sharing...
Why wouldn't you need blood thinners with stryde? Because you are less bedridden?
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Why wouldn't you need blood thinners with stryde? Because you are less bedridden?
That would be my assumption. With Precise 2.2, I was told they should be taken until you are cleared to walk.
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With the savings of not having to take Xarelto (~$1570 for a five month prescription), the cost of upgrading to Stryde is even more worth it. It really seems to be the revolutionary product that CLL patients have been waiting for.
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With the savings of not having to take Xarelto (~$1570 for a five month prescription)
You can get the Xarelto for significantly less.
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With the savings of not having to take Xarelto (~$1570 for a five month prescription), the cost of upgrading to Stryde is even more worth it. It really seems to be the revolutionary product that CLL patients have been waiting for.
So does anyone here know what causes Stryde to not require blood thinners? Didn't that Korean man doing external tibias die from a blood clot in his lungs?
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So does anyone here know what causes Stryde to not require blood thinners? Didn't that Korean man doing external tibias die from a blood clot in his lungs?
Blood thinners are of critical importance in any kind of LL.
I think it is irrespomsible to not take them with Stryde for at least 1 month after surgery.
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Blood thinners are of critical importance in any kind of LL.
I think it is irrespomsible to not take them with Stryde for at least 1 month after surgery.
I agree.
I believe they think the increased physical mobility will help preventing blood clots. But that's no reason to risk it.
They should reword and clarify that sentence if they only mean you'll be taking blood thinners for less time - rather than none at all.
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My guess is that they still prescribe it before surgery, won't know for sure until we get some clarification.
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Blood thinners are of critical importance in any kind of LL.
I think it is irrespomsible to not take them with Stryde for at least 1 month after surgery.
Blood thinners are important but wouldnt that cause you to lose more blood during surgery, when you are already losing a good amount to begin with?
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Awesome, thank you, thank you , thank you so much, you have solved a problem of mien that have taken away my night's sleep.
Can anybody here (Android, Stadio, Johnson or any other helpful person) advise if I can be back to office work after 2 weeks of surgery on this and continue lengthening and consolidating at home? thanks
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Can anybody here (Android, Stadio, Johnson or any other helpful person) advise if I can be back to office work after 2 weeks of surgery on this and continue lengthening and consolidating at home? thanks
Stryde will allow for a better recovery experience, but I somehow doubt that Dr. Paley will allow his patients to leave his care during lengthening. Aside from faster weight bearing, there are still a lot of unchanged variables that contribute to a successful journey: pain management, changes in sleep cycle, physical therapy, lengthening amount via ERC, etc.
Ensuring patient compliance is very important for Dr. Paley, as it contributes to his success as a doctor as well. Maybe he'll eventually allow patients to go home earlier compared to Precice 2.2, but I doubt it'll be as short as 2 weeks post-op.
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Stryde will allow for a better recovery experience, but I somehow doubt that Dr. Paley will allow his patients to leave his care during lengthening. Aside from faster weight bearing, there are still a lot of unchanged variables that contribute to a successful journey: pain management, changes in sleep cycle, physical therapy, lengthening amount via ERC, etc.
Ensuring patient compliance is very important for Dr. Paley, as it contributes to his success as a doctor as well. Maybe he'll eventually allow patients to go home earlier compared to Precice 2.2, but I doubt it'll be as short as 2 weeks post-op.
Wait til Stryde is available to other doctors like Rozbruch or Mahboubian, they let you lengthen at home with periodic checkup visits every 2-3 weeks.
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Blood thinners are of critical importance in any kind of LL.
I think it is irrespomsible to not take them with Stryde for at least 1 month after surgery.
The first STRYDE patient (http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=4736.msg86275) was prescribed a 1-month supply of Xarelto.
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The first STRYDE patient (http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=4736.msg86275) was prescribed a 1-month supply of Xarelto.
Thanks OYG!
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STRYDE Fatigue Load/Strength:
10(mm) - 75(kg) - 167(lbs)
11.5(mm) - 110(kg) - 244(lbs)
13(mm) - 145(kg) - 320(lbs)
https://youtu.be/Iz2ePdIKIPo?t=47m17s
Fatigue Load/Strength Description Starts @ 47:09
After receiving several concerned messages about this specific topic, here is all the information in a single easy to reference post.
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Why didn't they just create the Precise 1/2 with stainless steel instead of titanium? It's not like this was a new discovery that titanium breaks easier right?
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Why didn't they just create the Precise 1/2 with stainless steel instead of titanium? It's not like this was a new discovery that titanium breaks easier right?
Perhaps because Precice didn't start as a stature lengthening device. Titanium has benefit as an IM nail because it's flexible (and lighter too). Since CLL patients have less complex goals (e.g. lengthening in one direction), stronger stainless steel nails became a viable option. Perhaps that's why we have UNYTE (cobalt chromium alloy) for non-cosmetic LL while STRYDE is clearly marketed for CLL.
And stainless is way cheaper! Hopefully prices come down someday after they pay off their R&D.
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NuVasive Press Release: https://www.nuvasive.com/news/nuvasive-precice-stryde-system-used-in-first-patient-for-stature-lengthening-by-international-limb-lengthening-expert/
Cision: https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/nuvasive-precice-stryde-system-used-in-first-patient-for-stature-lengthening-by-international-limb-lengthening-expert-300652375.html
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Dr. Paley & STRYDE:
"Currently they have done a limited release only to me. The 11.5mm nail is available, but by July we expect to have the 10mm and the 13mm in all the various length sizes available for both tibia and femur."
"The STRYDE increases the safe weight bearing limit depending on the diameter of the nail used. e.g. for the 11.5 mm nail the safe limit is 90kgs/200lbs per leg."
"This means that even right after surgery you can start weight bearing as tolerated and do not have to be careful how much weight you place with the walker or crutches. Then two or three weeks after surgery when you are pain free you are evaluated for the safe amount of weight you can place without crutches. If you pass this test e.g. when you stand on one leg you do not exceed 90kgs/200lbs, you can go full weight bearing without crutches."
"We do recommend using a cane for curbs or inclines and either a handrail or cane for stairs. The STRYDE makes rehab faster and helps prevent muscle atrophy. It also prevents muscle weakness. Therefore, the rehabilitation time after lengthening is faster. The lengthening rate and time and need for PT do not change."
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Thanks Stadiometer, appreciate the updates.
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I've put together some information about the PRECICE-STRYDE from Dr. Paley i'd like to share with the forum. Starting with Dr. Paley's new pricing. Notice how PRECICE 2.2 is no longer listed.
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A description from Dr. Paley on the benefits of lengthening with the PRECICE-STRYDE.
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Medication requirements. Notice the change to anticoagulants/blood thinners, along with pain medication & optional muscle relaxant.
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Complications requiring additional expenses are extremely rare.
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Click on the link for an extensive FAQ from Dr. Paley that answers most questions about the PRECICE-STRYDE & limb lengthening in general.
https://paleyinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/Cosmetic-Stature-Lengthening-FAQs16.pdf
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The link I posted in the previous post, for some unknown reason, does not directly link to Dr. Paley's FAQ section. If you click on the following link you will see the FAQ link directly on the Paley website above the patients before & after photo.
https://paleyinstitute.org/centers-of-excellence/stature-lengthening/
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It seems to me that Paley and Co are only just catching up with what the Russians had 20+ years ago!!
Lol, all these fancy names and prices that can buy houses.. but the nail only does what it is supposed to and should've done to begin with! Seriously folks, get a grip.
I did my bilateral LL on femurs 14 years ago with a full weight bearing titanium nail at a cost of $25k including all aftercare and a 3 month stay in a modern apartment in Kiev. I put on just over 4 inches and I'm very happy with my result and recovery. I have posted a diary and videos, see links below.
Prices have gone up since then, but we're still talking half of Paley's cost. Many westerners were regularly coming to Kiev at the time and I personally met a few that had a good a result as mine.
Marketing is everything in the LL world and it would appear the US doctors, Paley in particular have a clear lead, but the proof of the pudding is in the eating)
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=9000.0
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Your hard advertising starts to really piss me off. Some loser moved to Ukraine for girls and now tries to make money by advertising Dr Jamal and his nail.
If that nail was that good every doctor would be using it. That has never happened!
For the price of Dr Jamal you can go to Greece and use Precice 2 in a fully developed country that in not partly torn by a war.
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Hey doomsday, great name by the way! What's your story? Have you had LL? Thinking of it? I'm sure it won't be doom and gloom if you did ;)
You have no idea why I am here, girls is not the reason) If you must know, I happen to be in love with a girl who is not in this country.
These things come with patents and IP (Intellectual Property). There is a reason why the Bliskunov/Jamal nail is used only here and by this doctor. Precise is an inferior nail in my opinion and used by many doctors. It's like IOS vs Android. If you want IOS, you'll have to buy Apple, but with Android, you have a ton of choice. Dr Jamal told me he was offered Precise, but declined.
The war is long over and everything is back to normal, thanks. Also I am not here for good. Maybe a few more weeks, I'll see.
I won't be on this forum for much longer if losers like you continue to criticise Dr Jamal's pricing and location. I really don't need it and I really don't give a $hit where you or others go. Go to Greece and get killed in a riot for all I care.
My posts are for those considering LL to make an informed decision, and should they chose Kiev and while I am here, I am happy to provide mentoring and support during the journey. This is not to be taken lightly.
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Info on the relatively new consultation process & measurements with Dr. Paley/Dr. Robbins.
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Your hard advertising starts to really piss me off. Some loser moved to Ukraine for girls and now tries to make money by advertising Dr Jamal and his nail.
If that nail was that good every doctor would be using it. That has never happened!
For the price of Dr Jamal you can go to Greece and use Precice 2 in a fully developed country that in not partly torn by a war.
Not only that, but dr Jamal is so fantastic apparently that there's not a single hit about him in Google in cyrillic alphabet (search words: Джамал + ортопед +Киев). No patient reviews, no information. As far as Google is concerned he doesn't exist.
The name tells me that dr Jamal is not Ukrainian. Most likelyy, from the Middle East. If he is so great, how come he wasn't in demand in his own country? Ukraine is balancing on the verge of becoming a failed state, they have more pressing problems on their hands than regulating medical licences. Anyone could show up in Ukraine and proclaim that they will lengthen legs and perform triple heart bypass surgery, complete with lobotomy and a separation of conjoined twins.
It's amazing that this forum allows such shameless advertising..
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Thread is getting quite derailed. Instead of smearing a product, let's talk about its documented strengths.
Indeed, Precice is not cheap, but that is its only shortcoming. It's state of the art and FDA approved. It has countless research papers with doctors all around the world using the device. Doctors must be approved to use the device, and in some cases representatives from NuVasive will fly in to assist with surgery to make sure that everything goes right.
If you want a peace of mind that you're getting the same care and a predictable result, it's recommended to choose a doctor that offers Precice.
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Not only that, but dr Jamal is so fantastic apparently that there's not a single hit about him in Google in cyrillic alphabet (search words: Джамал + ортопед +Киев). No patient reviews, no information. As far as Google is concerned he doesn't exist.
The name tells me that dr Jamal is not Ukrainian. Most likelyy, from the Middle East. If he is so great, how come he wasn't in demand in his own country? Ukraine is balancing on the verge of becoming a failed state, they have more pressing problems on their hands than regulating medical licences. Anyone could show up in Ukraine and proclaim that they will lengthen legs and perform triple heart bypass surgery, complete with lobotomy and a separation of conjoined twins.
It's amazing that this forum allows such shameless advertising..
Kotiki, for the record, and not that it matters, Dr Jamal is of Palestinian origin. Palestine is not a recognised state and it would be difficult for him to operate there given the geo-political situation. Like most Palestinians, he settled in a foreign country. Don't forget that the original team consisted of Dr Dragan and Jamal. Dr Dragan was in my opinion the best (have a look at his bio if your want to know more about the man) and Dr Jamal trained with him until he sadly and tragically passed away in 2011. You'll note Dr Dragan was an assistant of Professor Bliskunov who pioneered the internal nail for limb lengthening.
http://www.correction.kiev.ua/bonamed/dragan.htm
The fact that Dr Jamal does not return any hits on google only goes to show that he does not have any marketing of any sort behind him. The man is a real professional dedicated to his craft. He gets his patients mainly by word of mouth.
Once again, please don't join the other low lives in accusing me of advertising/promoting. I am here presenting information and I published my result. I am a finished article and I am not aware of any other who has posted photos and videos as I have, despite there being a few veteran LLers out there. Everyone is free to chose their doctor and location. If they should decide to come to Kiev and while I am here, I have offered my mentoring and support as I happen to know the formula for a successful outcome.
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Thread is getting quite derailed. Instead of smearing a product, let's talk about its documented strengths.
Indeed, Precice is not cheap, but that is its only shortcoming. It's state of the art and FDA approved. It has countless research papers with doctors all around the world using the device. Doctors must be approved to use the device, and in some cases representatives from NuVasive will fly in to assist with surgery to make sure that everything goes right.
If you want a peace of mind that you're getting the same care and a predictable result, it's recommended to choose a doctor that offers Precice.
Do not post Abu Jamal off-topic thing here. Continue discussion @ http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=9107.msg93453
Regular readers enter this thread to read more about Paley and Stryde. They will be dissapointed when they see the new posts are all about Abu.
@Mods please move any further post to that thread.
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regarding Stryde I am a bit worried about the diameter sizes offered. Precice 2 had 8.5mm nails, Stryde doesnt offer that. starts on 10mm.
I think i have a small bone canals because my arm wrist is tiny.
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regarding Stryde I am a bit worried about the diameter sizes offered. Precice 2 had 8.5mm nails, Stryde doesnt offer that. starts on 10mm.
I think i have a small bone canals because my arm wrist is tiny.
The vast majority of men can handle a 10mm nail.
And it is logical that it is at least 10mm as it is completely weight bearing.
However, for some men and women who can't handle it going to precise 2 is the only way. Still the results will be very good but they'll need more intensive pt as they won't walk and of course rehabilitation will be 2-3 months longer.
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regarding Stryde I am a bit worried about the diameter sizes offered. Precice 2 had 8.5mm nails, Stryde doesnt offer that. starts on 10mm.
I think i have a small bone canals because my arm wrist is tiny.
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Is there any way, apart from x-rays, to predict if your tibia are large enough for 10 mm Stryde?
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Received some messages about this topic again. Here you go.
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Below is Dr. Paley describing the progress of his PRECICE-STRYDE patients.
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The topic of axial deviation is an important one that i don't see discussed very often, particularly when lengthening the tibia. The following information reflects another improvement when lengthening with STRYDE.
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The topic of axial deviation is an important one that i don't see discussed very often, particularly when lengthening the tibia. The following information reflects another improvement when lengthening with STRYDE.
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Agreed, and very informative. Was wondering how Precice avoided the correction phase. Thanks!
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So if the nail is fully weight bearing, why is it not possible to just walk normal after the surgery? Are there any other factors preventing walking normal?
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A non union or failure to consolidate is a very serious complication that can lead to the need for bone graft surgery. Dr. Paley describes how since 2011 that problem has been eliminated in his practice with the release of PRECICE and now STRYDE. The ability of PRECICE & STRYDE to go in reverse is the key factor.
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So if the nail is fully weight bearing, why is it not possible to just walk normal after the surgery? Are there any other factors preventing walking normal?
This is still very much an invasive surgery, even with STRYDE. Your bones have been broken, soft tissues, muscles sliced in about 5 different places. Even though the cuts may look minimal on the surface, remember that these cuts go bone deep! If you look at diary photos, a lot of people have massive bruises on the underside of their leg after surgery.
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Thanks for your reply.
Please help me understand: The damage done to the soft tissue is preventing patients from walking.
If you can recover from the cuts done to the soft tissue (estimate 3 weeks), and if you have STRYDE, than you should walk pretty normal soon after surgery.
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Any time you are having any type of invasive surgery, say a Caesarean section, or gall bladder removed the doc is going to recommend you rest for 6 weeks. (Generally no driving or heavy lifting) this is for the soft tissue to recover and if you don’t have IT band or similar releases that could take a lot longer. Your legs need to be able to hold the weight of the rest of your body, on top of that the soft tissue is being damaged everyday by the stretching and at some point after 3cm, it may feel so tight, you can’t even keep your leg straight, let alone walk! This is why you shouldn’t, even with a weight bearing nail, think you can easily go back to a normal life after 3 weeks. Read lots of diaries and take heed. For sure STRYDE will make things better, but it’s going to be far from a walk in the park. I may self am planning to have surgery in November with STRYDE in Europe. Consultations done and surgery booked. Hopefully I will have the willpower to post a diary so that everyone can learn a little more about it. Good luck on your own journey.....🙂
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If I may ask, who’s the doctor in Europe that is offeri Stryde in November?
I thought no one is getting Stryde, except paley and Rozburch, until next year.
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His name is Dr Köhne in Munich. He will be one of the first 5 doctors to get STRYDE worldwide and has been using Precice for a number of years now. I went for a consultation with him a couple of weeks ago with another potential LL’er and he answered all of our questions adequately. I will be writing a journal soon and hope to be able to keep it up throughout as many LL vets have done before me.
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His name is Dr Köhne in Munich. He will be one of the first 5 doctors to get STRYDE worldwide and has been using Precice for a number of years now. I went for a consultation with him a couple of weeks ago with another potential LL’er and he answered all of our questions adequately. I will be writing a journal soon and hope to be able to keep it up throughout as many LL vets have done before me.
Thank you very much for information. If you know could you tell us who are the other first 4 doctors to get Stryde?
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I emailed Dr. Paley to ask if the STRYDE is having any problems and to check on the performance since he started using the nail in late May. His response below...
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I emailed Dr. Paley to ask if the STRYDE is having any problems and to check on the performance since he started using the nail in late May. His response below...
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great news. cant wait for the first stryde diary.
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MyEvolution plans on starting a patient experience as a STRYDE patient of Dr. Paley next month, link to his patient experience below.
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=9104.msg93353#msg93353
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any update of Stryde?
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I have a consult with Dr Paley on September 04 (Tuesday). I have my surgery booked for October 18 on femurs using Stryde: If you have any questions you want me to ask Paley about Stryde or whatever let me know.
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It’s truly mind blowing seeing patients walk on their nails. What an incredible advancement. Absolute game changer.
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It’s truly mind blowing seeing patients walk on their nails. What an incredible advancement. Absolute game changer.
have you seen them yourself? how is their walk btw, can it be "hidden" from normal people ie. returning to work 1 month post-op
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have you seen them yourself? how is their walk btw, can it be "hidden" from normal people ie. returning to work 1 month post-op
great question! +1
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have you seen them yourself? how is their walk btw, can it be "hidden" from normal people ie. returning to work 1 month post-op
That's amazing if true. Wish I could afford it without selling my soul.
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I’m going to be going this Tuesday for my consult with paley. Hopefully I’ll see some Stryde patients that are at different points of their lengthenjng so I can see how they actually walk and their thoughts on it.
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I’m going to be going this Tuesday for my consult with paley. Hopefully I’ll see some Stryde patients that are at different points of their lengthenjng so I can see how they actually walk and their thoughts on it.
That shouldn't be too difficult for you Messenger. Dr. Paley only uses STRYDE now so patients should be everywhere. Most likely there will be some STRYDE patients at the rehab facility after your consultation. If the patients are cool they will let you watch some of their stretching exercises with the therapist. That was something I did & found very helpful.
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That shouldn't be too difficult for you Messenger. Dr. Paley only uses STRYDE now so patients should be everywhere. Most likely there will be some STRYDE patients at the rehab facility after your consultation. If the patients are cool they will let you watch some of their stretching exercises with the therapist. That was something I did & found very helpful.
Paley still has to use Precice2 for those who with thin tibia.
Stryde only starts with 10mm.
My height is 159 and seems that my tibia cannot allow 10mm Stryde.
very bad news to me. people should check xrays before going overseas for stryde.
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It’s truly mind blowing seeing patients walk on their nails. What an incredible advancement. Absolute game changer.
I saw 2 patients. 1 had recently undergone surgery and was walking through the halls with assistance of a physical therapist. Slowly but still amazing.
The second patient, i'm not sure how far along he was, all I know is that he was still lengthening and was walking little indication that something stood out.
I would have never known.
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Wow, thanks "Iamready" this is uplifting news!
So did I understand correctly, in your eyes the second patient was almost walking normally?
What is your guess of his status of lengthening (cm)? And do you know if he did CLL bilateral femur?
🙏🏻 thanks
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It was tibias which makes it harder to believe. I'm not sure how much he lengthened but I remember my jaw dropping when I was told. He was walking no differently than someone who did a hard leg workout at the gym.
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Incredible... bilateral?
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yup
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Nice to see you around here Iamready !
Do you think could you gather more specific info about the patients(how much did they lengthened,ecc )?
Or ask them to share their experience here ?
So Stryde is a real dealbreaker
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I didn't want to invade their privacy. I only saw them when I flew back to get the nails removed. I flew home a few days after surgery.
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Nice to see you around here Iamready !
Do you think could you gather more specific info about the patients(how much did they lengthened,ecc )?
Or ask them to share their experience here ?
So Stryde is a real dealbreaker
I have meant a game changer,I did a mistake
Thanks for the report Iamready,feel free to update us if you get more news
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Does anybody know what we can assume under the definition "fatigue load"?
Thanks
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"In materials science, fatigue is the weakening of a material caused by repeatedly applied loads. It is the progressive and localized structural damage that occurs when a material is subjected to cyclic loading."
so STRYDE nail failure, considered a certain weight in a certain number of cycles
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STRYDE is really a game changer
the next technological leap, it would be something like a nail made of nanobots maybe in 100 years haha
Meanwhile, what should be improved is something that intervenes in the growth and recovery of the soft tissue,
cktail of steroids and hgh HGH, stem cell therapy?
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Stryde is a game changer in terms of fixation, not osteogenesis.
Be sure we'll be seeing a lot of news regarding the latter in the next 5 to 10 years. Osteogenesis is very important for those who survived accidents with incredible amounts of trauma.
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I didn't want to invade their privacy. I only saw them when I flew back to get the nails removed. I flew home a few days after surgery.
How do you feel now?
Could you show some video of your waltking and running?
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Why would LL ever cost that much may as well by a house with that.
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stryde is the best option right now.
I'm sure endless patients are going with this nail
i'm waiting so badly for diaries
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STRYDE is really a game changer
the next technological leap, it would be something like a nail made of nanobots maybe in 100 years haha
Meanwhile, what should be improved is something that intervenes in the growth and recovery of the soft tissue,
cktail of steroids and hgh HGH, stem cell therapy?
NOthing like that is coming soon
Maybe in the next century
Do stryde,is the best option and it will be for a long time
no other significant improvements will be soon available
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"At NSO, we are excited to introduce PRECICE STRYDE to the market, which is just the start of a long line of PRECICE products in the next 18-months to further transform the orthopedic space and offer better clinical outcomes for patients,” said Massimo Calafiore, president of NSO. “There is so much opportunity for us to address unmet clinical needs in the orthopedic market—from limb reconstruction to stature lengthening—this latest technology has the ability to drastically improve how our surgeon partners treat their patients.”
Quote from here: https://www.nuvasive.com/news/nuvasive-precice-stryde-system-used-in-first-patient-for-stature-lengthening-by-international-limb-lengthening-expert/
I wonder what they meant by STRYDE being just the start. What else is in the pipeline? Anyone wants to make an educated guess?
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"At NSO, we are excited to introduce PRECICE STRYDE to the market, which is just the start of a long line of PRECICE products in the next 18-months to further transform the orthopedic space and offer better clinical outcomes for patients,” said Massimo Calafiore, president of NSO. “There is so much opportunity for us to address unmet clinical needs in the orthopedic market—from limb reconstruction to stature lengthening—this latest technology has the ability to drastically improve how our surgeon partners treat their patients.”
Quote from here: https://www.nuvasive.com/news/nuvasive-precice-stryde-system-used-in-first-patient-for-stature-lengthening-by-international-limb-lengthening-expert/
I wonder what they meant by STRYDE being just the start. What else is in the pipeline? Anyone wants to make an educated guess?
I noticed that same exact quote in the article & asked Dr. Paley specifically about it back when the article was first released. He told me that is a reference to the multiple diameter nails of Stryde being released & the release of Stryde to international markets.
My impression after communicating with Dr. Paley was that Stryde will be the apex of lengthening nails. I even asked Dr. Paley if he one day foresees a lengthening nail that allows patients to run during the lengthening process, & his answer was no.
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I noticed that same exact quote in the article & asked Dr. Paley specifically about it back when the article was first released. He told me that is a reference to the multiple diameter nails of Stryde being released & the release of Stryde to international markets.
My impression after communicating with Dr. Paley was that Stryde will be the apex of lengthening nails. I even asked Dr. Paley if he one day foresees a lengthening nail that allows patients to run during the lengthening process, & his answer was no.
That's excellent information! Do you mean to say that there are smaller diameters of STRYDE in the pipeline? Cause right now it's a limiting factor for tibia lengthening for a lot of people, especially women.
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That's excellent information! Do you mean to say that there are smaller diameters of STRYDE in the pipeline? Cause right now it's a limiting factor for tibia lengthening for a lot of people, especially women.
Fatigue Load(lbs)
Precice2 8.5mm 67
Precice2 10.7mm 118
Precice2 12.5mm 146
Stryde 10mm 167
Stryde 11.5mm 244
Stryde 13mm 320
when looked at this chart, you can estimate that even if Stryde 8.5mm was made, the fatigue load would be probably less than 100lbs.
And with the fact that P2 8.5mm nail's weight bearing restrictions is even 50 lbs(24kg), Stryde 8.5mm would be around 70 lbs or so at most.
For adult women it will be difficult to walk unaided with this weight limitation.
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Fatigue Load(lbs)
Precice2 8.5mm 67
Precice2 10.7mm 118
Precice2 12.5mm 146
Stryde 10mm 167
Stryde 11.5mm 244
Stryde 13mm 320
when looked at this chart, you can estimate that even if Stryde 8.5mm was made, the fatigue load would be probably less than 100lbs.
And with the fact that P2 8.5mm nail's weight bearing restrictions is even 50 lbs(24kg), Stryde 8.5mm would be around 70 lbs or so at most.
For adult women it will be difficult to walk unaided with this weight limitation.
I weigh 47 kg (100 lbs). Why do you predict that 8.5 Stryde would be basically no better than 8.5 precise nail? I see significant gains in other diameters.
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I weigh 47 kg (100 lbs). Why do you predict that 8.5 Stryde would be basically no better than 8.5 precise nail? I see significant gains in other diameters.
Stryde nails are much thicker than Precice nails.
When size is same, gain is not that a lot.
From 13mm to 11.5mm, about 80 lbs is lost.
Just from this you can see 8.5mm will not bear more than 100lbs.
And weight limitation will be much less than fatigue load.
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So only femurs may have a chance to put Stryde 10mm for petit women.
But for tibia less chance of Stryde.
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So only femurs may have a chance to put Stryde 10mm for petit women.
But for tibia less chance of Stryde.
Do you know if there is direct correlation between height and the diameter of the tibia bone canal?
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I can't find this information right now, but I remember seeing it somewhere, that the size of the bone doesn't necessarily correlate directly to the size of the medullary cavities. In other words, a stocky, heavy-built man could have more narrow medullary cavities in his long bones than a petite woman.
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I can't find this information right now, but I remember seeing it somewhere, that the size of the bone doesn't necessarily correlate directly to the size of the medullary cavities. In other words, a stocky, heavy-built man could have more narrow medullary cavities in his long bones than a petite woman.
Yes male bones are tend to be bigger and have thicker walls so it gives more space to ream.
Female tibia bone walls are much thinner so it’s more difficult to ream, besides bones are not 100% straight.
To put a nail, space needs to be 1mm or 1.5mm bigger than nail diameter. If walls are thick enough, bones can be reamed but if it’s too thin, no chance.
Needs to see with Very precise X-rays.
before planning surgery better check your bone diameters and walls of tibia.
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Video of MyEvolution walking 5 days post surgery on the STRYDE nail with Dr. Paley.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VAElFCLgU4
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Very impressive!
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Video of MyEvolution walking 5 days post surgery on the STRYDE nail with Dr. Paley.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VAElFCLgU4
Goodness
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WOW!
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Impressive stuff!!
But can someone explain what causes the "duck butt" so early after the surgery when no lengthening yet took place?
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how is the scarring different with stryde? would someone explain to me whether it's better?
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Video & X-ray of MyEvolution, a patient of Dr. Paley, at 7cm of femur lengthening with Stryde.
https://imgur.com/a/zVoFUoN
https://youtu.be/3GMOq_KZ4Kg
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Video & X-ray of MyEvolution, a patient of Dr. Paley, at 7cm of femur lengthening with Stryde.
https://imgur.com/a/zVoFUoN
https://youtu.be/3GMOq_KZ4Kg
Does anyone know how long after surgery this is?
EDIT: Nevermind, just read his diary.