Limb Lengthening Forum
Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Discussions => Topic started by: notimportant on April 03, 2017, 09:29:25 PM
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This is situation. The manufacturer sells bad nails and the patients have to suffer the consequences: more surgeries, more pain, more recovery time, permanent sequels. The failure was due to bad functioning of this expensive product. The doctor doesn't want the patients to sue the manufacturer because his business would be off. The doctor sides with the manufacturer instead of patients. Would you support such a doctor? The doctor's priority shouldn't be business but patients' wellbeing but this LL doctor is a greedy moneymaker s most LL doctors. imo patients should take care of themselves and not worry about the business of a person who doesn't care about them.
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Hmm yet another Dr. Monegal thread. I wouldn't go to Monegal mostly because of what all you have said and I do believe he is incompetent somewhat and the nail seems to have a lot of problems. But what is with this obsession man? Did he wrong you personally or something? Just focus on getting your surgery.
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This guy isnt banned yet? No wonder this forum look like a circus now a days.
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Not going into Dr.Monegal competence or incompetence, this guy should be banned as it is a clone account off a banned account.
Also, This guy praised Guichet even after he got that female patient the exact same complication of Musicmaker and went to reccomend him and other docs even though he has no idea on any doc.
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I believe that if a patients has to sue someone this is fitbone's company, not the doctor because it is not his fault.
But if this nail keeps having a high complication rate, then I think that any doctor who is considered respectable should stop using it.
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I think that in terms of reliability precise 2.2 is surely better.
I haven't seen this nail failing in any diary while fitbone failed in about 1/3 diaries.
Of course this rate can be general but even if 1/10 of fitbones fails it is still too much and the company must do something asap to fix that problem.
It is obvious that 0,1 % failure rate that the company mentions (I think that I read it in Helloworld's diary) can't be real when we have so many failures in the diaries here.
Of course there isn't a perfect nail but fitbone (like precise) isn't perfect mainly because it is now weight bearing.
But that doesn't mean that it is normal to have low reliability. This is unacceptable for any modern nail.
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He also recommends Dr Mitkovic... while 4 patients from Dr Mitkovic came here for having corrections by Dr Monegal and some others are requesting information for future procedures!
Can you give more details about these corrections?
Edit: Not asking for something personal, just an overview of what these complications are. Thanks.
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Can you give more details about these corrections?
Edit: Not asking for something personal, just an overview of what these complications are. Thanks.
I want to know this too.
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Take into account that Precise has also failed in some cases, like in Penguinn's.
As Dr Monegal says, the perfect implant doesnt' exist. Each doctor must choose the nail which he deems the best among those available in the market by taking into account his own experience, the existent literature, and the company history records.
Dr Monegal uses Fitbone because the system allows not only lengthening but also bone transport in cases of massive loses of bone (Precise is trying to copy this at this moment). Moreover, the Wittenstein company's policy is smarter than Precise's. While Precise's approach is more of a commercial kind and allows undiscriminate surgeons to use its nails, Fitbone creates centers and educates its surgeons so that patients have the best possible results.
You defend mongeal way too much and on points that are not true. Precise may have had some failures but it is still a far more superior nail to fitbone and as bodybuilder said a doc that sees a lot of these failures should stop using the device. Your worshiping of mongeal is like that other patient that said that mongeal was better than paley or rozbruch.
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LLUser1 started coming here like 3 years ago. Crazy thing is.. 3 years later, he is still short and angry.
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Take into account that Precise has also failed in some cases, like in Penguinn's.
Which he got replaced immediately
You defend mongeal way too much and on points that are not true. Precise may have had some failures but it is still a far more superior nail to fitbone and as bodybuilder said a doc that sees a lot of these failures should stop using the device. Your worshiping of mongeal is like that other patient that said that mongeal was better than paley or rozbruch.
That's monegal patients for ya. But if you dare to say something bad about him almost whole triggered army will come after you.
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Which he got replaced immediately
That's monegal patients for ya. But if you dare to say something bad about him almost whole triggered army will come after you.
Yes and I don't see other doctor patients coming out of the wood work like they do, almost like a cult.
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We all know that Precise is better than Fitbone. Also, we should suspect that Dr Monegal actively "encourages" his patients to advertise for him in this forum. This doctor is probably good or at least average but this is clearly a business for him (as for all others), that's why he omits information about complications or downplays them.
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I doubt that Precise and Guichet nail are better than Fitbone, because my doctor, Dr. Monegal, told me that Fitbone is superior to Precise and far superior to Guichet nail. In fact, the doctor told me that he was incentivised by Precise do use their nail but chose not to, due to the nail inferiority.
I agree with Musicmaker and Auron (full disclosure: they are my friends) that Dr. Monegal is doing a fantastic job. So if at all we might pya more to say "thank you".
I am not sure about Fitbone, maybe the nail is really good. But of course, even if the manufacturer of a nail has done everything correctly and has indeed a low failure rate, they would still be liable in those cases that a failure occurs.
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Of course your Dr who uses Fitnone won't admit he uses an inferior nail. Fitbone malfunctions more than Precise, Precise is FDA approved and is used by the top LL doctors in the world as we ALL know. Do you admit that Dr Monegal actively encourages patients to advertise for him? We all know he was one time very active here, constantly arguing with many trolls, etc. Would you expect that kind of behavior from Paley? Rozburch?
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Of course your Dr who uses Fitnone won't admit he uses an inferior nail. Fitbone malfunctions more than Precise, Precise is FDA approved and is used by the top LL doctors in the world as we ALL know. Do you admit that Dr Monegal actively encourages patients to advertise for him? We all know he was one time very active here, constantly arguing with many trolls, etc. Would you expect that kind of behavior from Paley? Rozburch?
How do you know that fitbone malfunctions more than precise? Any official proof?
When we say that fitbone is better than precise we are simply giving our opinion. If I thought othetwise I'd had gone with precise. I do want the best choice for my legs.
Also, I don't know about the other patients but I don't discuss forum matters with my doc and if I see someone accusing him with false statements its just natural that I defend him, after all, he has done a fantastic job with my legs so far and not many patients around the world can say the same of their doctor.
If by any chance or at any given time I think that my doctor is not capable of doing it's job correctly I can switch to any other doctor at my own free will.
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How do you know that fitbone malfunctions more than precise? Any official proof?
When we say that fitbone is better than precise we are simply giving our opinion. If I thought othetwise I'd had gone with precise. I do want the best choice for my legs.
Also, I don't know about the other patients but I don't discuss forum matters with my doc and if I see someone accusing him with false statements its just natural that I defend him, after all, he has done a fantastic job with my legs so far and not many patients around the world can say the same of their doctor.
If by any chance or at any given time I think that my doctor is not capable of doing it's job correctly I can switch to any other doctor at my own free will.
It is impossible to get definite proof. Because the company controls which doctors do the surgery and therefore also all information regarding outcomes (publication bias). Furthermore, Precise is available all over the world and information regarding this nail is free and more transparent.
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Guys I know I can't back up what I'm about to say, and I don't have definite proof. However, at least listen to this. People close to the patients of Dr Monegal have told me he "forces" them to advertise for him because they are living in his residence. DO be very careful with this doctor.
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Guys I know I can't back up what I'm about to say, and I don't have definite proof. However, at least listen to this. People close to the patients of Dr Monegal have told me he "forces" them to advertise for him because they are living in his residence. DO be very careful with this doctor.
LOL! This made my day, thank you.
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The creator of this thread has way too much time on his/her hands
I would not trust their opinion too much. At the same time, Musicmaker's opinion on this matter is totally worthless. Not even sure why she posts as it looks as if Monegal sent her here. Musicmaker, your posts only hurt Monegal
My experience with Monegal has been pretty positive. That being said, I would not choose the Fitbone. My opinion is solely based on the nail
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He also recommends Dr Mitkovic... while 4 patients from Dr Mitkovic came here for having corrections by Dr Monegal and some others are requesting information for future procedures!
Were those patients cosmetic?
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We all know that Precise is better than Fitbone. Also, we should suspect that Dr Monegal actively "encourages" his patients to advertise for him in this forum. This doctor is probably good or at least average but this is clearly a business for him (as for all others), that's why he omits information about complications or downplays them.
About this being a business for him: I think Dr. Monegal is the one treating it least as a business.
Why would he do the procedure for free for patients that cannot afford it but need it?
From the money I paid for the procedure most went to Fitbone and a significant part to hospital.
Money he keeps is far less than other doctor doing cosmetic LL in the western world.
Why is he resistant to increasing his prices, even though I told him he has to do it, because by having a low price some people might actually think, that lower price means lower quality. Because he would not feel comfortable charging cosmetic patients and thus private patients much more than insurance patients, even though he knows he would make more money.
Something to think about.
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I find him sketchy due to the all the controversy surrounding him, I'm not talking about his skills as a doctor. I find it very odd how this user seems to have an obsession with warning everyone to stay away from him. Then you have music maker who defends him religiously in an odd way every time he's brought up. Frankly I wouldn't trust either of these users opinion on this doctor, there's obviously something weird going on that we probably do not have the full story on. His nail also seems to have a lot of problems, so there is some legitimacy to this user's claims. There's too much controversy surrounding him for whatever reason. Also how he was apart of this forum and would get into it with other members is also something that struck me as odd, don't see any other LL doctors doing that.
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These dumb monegal + fitbone vs precise threads need to be stopped for once and for all. This forum is turning to a circus full of trolls...
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I doubt that Precise and Guichet nail are better than Fitbone, because my doctor, Dr. Monegal, told me that Fitbone is superior to Precise and far superior to Guichet nail. In fact, the doctor told me that he was incentivised by Precise do use their nail but chose not to, due to the nail inferiority.
Fkin communist propaganda is like a lullaby comparing to this crap
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Take into account that Precise has also failed in some cases, like in Penguinn's.
As Dr Monegal says, the perfect implant doesnt' exist. Each doctor must choose the nail which he deems the best among those available in the market by taking into account his own experience, the existent literature, and the company history records.
Dr Monegal uses Fitbone because the system allows not only lengthening but also bone transport in cases of massive loses of bone (Precise is trying to copy this at this moment). Moreover, the Wittenstein company's policy is smarter than Precise's. While Precise's approach is more of a commercial kind and allows undiscriminate surgeons to use its nails, Fitbone creates centers and educates its surgeons so that patients have the best possible results.
Why whats wrong with Penguinn's process?!!
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Why whats wrong with Penguinn's process?!!
She was talking about penguins precise breaking the first time but she omits that it was replaced right away. Also the precise representative of precise there to observe the surgery. I wonder why rozburch or paley would charge much more than mongeal yet use an inferior nail that cost more to produce. ::)
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She was talking about penguins precise breaking the first time but she omits that it was replaced right away. Also the precise representative of precise there to observe the surgery. I wonder why rozburch or paley would charge much more than mongeal yet use an inferior nail that cost more to produce. ::)
My nail didn't break, it just didn't lengthen. It was replaced in the initial surgery itself, so personally I have no complaints about Precice. I was told that 3 in 1,000 Precice nails do fail.
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My nail didn't break, it just didn't lengthen. It was replaced in the initial surgery itself, so personally I have no complaints about Precice. I was told that 3 in 1,000 Precice nails do fail.
Sorry I was thinking of the paley patients whose nail broke. Yours was the nail not working as planed to lengthen.
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Yes something weird is going on here. You don't have the full story and you can't have because I can't post patients' medical proofs but you can't tell I haven't warned you. Crimsontide is right about Musicmaker. She doesn't tell the truth and Cooper got screwed because of her advice and advices of other Spanish people. Musicmaker should go to America doctors if she wants her problems fixed because this one hasn't fixed yet after 3 years. IF you want to be like her choose same doctor and nail. Precise has a better policy than Fitbone as you can see in Penguinn.
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Yes something weird is going on here. You don't have the full story and you can't have because I can't post patients' medical proofs but you can't tell I haven't warned you. Crimsontide is right about Musicmaker. She doesn't tell the truth and Cooper got screwed because of her advice and advices of other Spanish people. Musicmaker should go to America doctors if she wants her problems fixed because this one hasn't fixed yet after 3 years. IF you want to be like her choose same doctor and nail. Precise has a better policy than Fitbone as you can see in Penguinn.
musicmaker this musicmaker that blah blah blah worst case blah blah blah....
why you got such a hard on for musicmaker? RealTrump is right about you, it's been 3 years dude, i don't think she's interested
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musicmaker this musicmaker that blah blah blah worst case blah blah blah....
why you got such a hard on for musicmaker? RealTrump is right about you, it's been 3 years dude, i don't think she's interested
Its quite funny that you talk about his many accounts but you made yours just today
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Its quite funny that you talk about his many accounts but you made yours just today
So what? He's not trying do deny that he is someone else unlike Lluser who creates different accounts and lies to everyone else saying "I'm not Lluser".
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Its quite funny that you talk about his many accounts but you made yours just today
if that is the only funny thing on this forum i will thank my lucky stars..
if it's ok for him to say the same sh*t over and over again then it should be ok for me to reply to him over and over again, don't you agree?
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if that is the only funny thing on this forum i will thank my lucky stars..
if it's ok for him to say the same sh*t over and over again then it should be ok for me to reply to him over and over again, don't you agree?
What would actually be ok is if the mods would do their jobs and ban this guy whenever he comes up
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My nail didn't break, it just didn't lengthen. It was replaced in the initial surgery itself, so personally I have no complaints about Precice. I was told that 3 in 1,000 Precice nails do fail.
My nail was also replace immediatly. I am complaining because Fitbone is not willing to discuss the compensation for the dammage incurred.
I also was told 2 in 1,000.
However, I think that that both Precise and Fitbone might use some creative ways to make their stats look better. For Precise I found this:
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs11999-014-3575-0
7 out of 40 patients had to go back to operating room, 1 was due to implant failure. That means statistally 25 in 1000 rather than 3 in 1000.
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Before banning they should talk to me and ask for real proofs I've got in private. I'm posting useful information for everybody here. Freedom of speech for me and everybody. If you don't like don't read.
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He goes overboard with saying the same thing in a thread but he does bring some valid points. Some of you whine like girls saying the same thing over him about getting him banned. Just ignore the guy, apathy is the most effective tool against a troll as you would consider him.
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Helloworld that report is about not cosmetic. 1 Precise implant failure in that article but how many implant failures among Monegal patients? Come on. Not 3 in 1000 for sure and much more than 1 in 40 only with you, Musicmaker... and Crisisaak too with Fitbone.
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Just ignore the guy, apathy is the most effective tool against a troll as you would consider him.
Tell that to evey user who pm me saying "Sorry for pm'ing you but I'd rather keep tis private so that troll lluser don't bark into our conversation", to every patient who stopped updating his diary because of him (I even considered it) and to every patient who refuses to make a diary afraid that if any complication arise he will be there pointing it out and make it look even worse.
I'm here for the community but if the community is made of trolls I might as well leave. Moderatores are so passive that it's the same as if they didn't exist.
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Helloworld you say immediately in your case and that's only half truth. Penguin had 1 surgery only and you said you had 3. You had to wait for a few days. Poor Musicmaker had it worse. She had many nail failures and had to wait for months and she had 10 surgeries. You and her should be compensated.
I'm not a troll. Mods can pm and I will send some proofs. Some people also wrote to me saying thank you for telling the truth. Some Monegal patients lie a lot like doctor himself. They are the trolls and antitroll account is a clone account of another person here sure. In that case he should be banned as well
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He goes overboard with saying the same thing in a thread but he does bring some valid points. Some of you whine like girls saying the same thing over him about getting him banned. Just ignore the guy, apathy is the most effective tool against a troll as you would consider him.
Dude you expect thinking from mongel fanboys? cmon.
Look how auron gets triggered by every monegal related posts and even doe he says that he will stop responding to notimportant and will leave forum but then he still replies anyway.
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What would actually be ok is if the mods would do their jobs and ban this guy whenever he comes up
what's the point? he'll just create another username and keep polluting threads until we catch him the next time
like a ckroach that won't die
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It's you who did that you also like a ckroach
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Dude you expect thinking from mongel fanboys? cmon.
Look how auron gets triggered by every monegal related posts and even doe he says that he will stop responding to notimportant and will leave forum but then he still replies anyway.
When did I say I was leaving the forum?
Also, you know, I could be here just to enjoy reading how pathetic your life has been(you know you have all my pity and compassion don't you? <3) but instead I'm here providing facts about my experience. Btw, you seem to be in every Monegal thread as well, duh.
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Before banning they should talk to me and ask for real proofs I've got in private. I'm posting useful information for everybody here. Freedom of speech for me and everybody. If you don't like don't read.
you're not the hero that this forum needs. it's been 3 years already, get a life.. how's that for free speech?
if you don't like this post don't read it.
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When did I say I was leaving the forum?
Also, you know, I could be here just to enjoy reading how pathetic your life has been(you know you have all my pity and compassion don't you? <3) but instead I'm here providing facts about my experience. Btw, you seem to be in every Monegal thread as well, duh.
Lel someone is upset
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If I had been here 3 years ago Cooper wouldn't have been screwed. Poor Cooper. Now my posts are useful for many and I'm a hero for many. Monegal fanboys and Musicmaker (biggest disaster biggest fan : Stockholm syndrome?) are allowed to stay so I should be allowed too.
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Helloworld you say immediately in your case and that's only half truth. Penguin had 1 surgery only and you said you had 3. You had to wait for a few days. Poor Musicmaker had it worse. She had many nail failures and had to wait for months and she had 10 surgeries. You and her should be compensated.
I'm not a troll. Mods can pm and I will send some proofs. Some people also wrote to me saying thank you for telling the truth. Some Monegal patients lie a lot like doctor himself. They are the trolls and antitroll account is a clone account of another person here sure. In that case he should be banned as well
blah blah blah musicmaker blah blah blah... serious question, how many times a day do you jerk off to her x-rays?
nobody cares about your valuable proofs, only idiots are stunned by how serious this surgery is
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Lel someone is upset
Yes, should I attempt suicide? Please, help me sir.
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and I'm a hero for many.
so funny it's sad
i feel so sorry for you. i feel even sorrier for what a joke you've turned this forum into
If I had been here 3 years ago Cooper wouldn't have been screwed. Poor Cooper. Now my posts are useful for many and I'm a hero for many. Monegal fanboys and Musicmaker (biggest disaster biggest fan : Stockholm syndrome?) are allowed to stay so I should be allowed too.
if you're staying i'm staying
yay free speech
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Yes, should I attempt suicide? Please, help me sir.
Pain just pours from your posts kek
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We seriously need a "Monegal Circlejerk" section in this forum.
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Tell that to evey user who pm me saying "Sorry for pm'ing you but I'd rather keep tis private so that troll lluser don't bark into our conversation", to every patient who stopped updating his diary because of him (I even considered it) and to every patient who refuses to make a diary afraid that if any complication arise he will be there pointing it out and make it look even worse.
I'm here for the community but if the community is made of trolls I might as well leave. Moderatores are so passive that it's the same as if they didn't exist.
What is there to be afraid of? Mods banned him when he went too far implying someone died. In your diary you can ask the mods to delete his post and they will but this is a thread he started and your giving him attention.
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Tell that to evey user who pm me saying "Sorry for pm'ing you but I'd rather keep tis private so that troll lluser don't bark into our conversation", to every patient who stopped updating his diary because of him (I even considered it) and to every patient who refuses to make a diary afraid that if any complication arise he will be there pointing it out and make it look even worse.
I'm here for the community but if the community is made of trolls I might as well leave. Moderatores are so passive that it's the same as if they didn't exist.
What is there to be afraid of? Mods banned him when he went too far implying someone died. In your diary you can ask the mods to delete his post and they will but this is a thread he started and your giving him attention.
Well, right back at you, why did you want the mods to ban Bigdaddy if you can just ignore him?
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Well, right back at you, why did you want the mods to ban Bigdaddy if you can just ignore him?
Im ignoring him know since he is a lesser evil compared to the real trolls that post Im 6 feet can I gain 6 inches.
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Musicmaker blah blah... not blah blah This is a serious question. You're dismissing her case as if wasn't serious but it is. The poor girl wanted to have longer legs and she has been 3 years wheelchairbounded and suffered trauma of all kinds. Musicmaker and Cooper are true heroes and deserve all my attention and they should be defended from evil by the forum. Cooper could leave but Musicmaker was brainwashed. She needs our help not bad jokes about jerking off X-rays.
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waa waa waa i'm batman, i'm the hero this forum deserves but not the one that it needs right now waa waaa waaaaaa.. i still can't stop talking about musicmaker even if i tried waaa waaaaaa waaaaaaaaa
musicmaker never needed your help you creep... you been at this for three f**king years for f**ks sake.. how many backup usernames you got prepared already in case this one gets banned? anybody with a brain will realize the only person that really needs help is you
you the reason why ll doctors do psych evaluations you wacko
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Dr Monegal is young. I believe MusicMaker was one of his earliest patients so it's normal that he made many mistakes. However it is the attitude towards that problem, the lying and deceiving: hiding complication rate, making patients advertise you on a forum. That's why we should be very careful with Monegal. Most of LL doctors do it obviously for the money but honesty should be respected and patients informed of the real risks !!
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Helloworld you say immediately in your case and that's only half truth. Penguin had 1 surgery only and you said you had 3. You had to wait for a few days. Poor Musicmaker had it worse. She had many nail failures and had to wait for months and she had 10 surgeries. You and her should be compensated.
Notimportant, let me clarify.
On Sunday night I heared no more screw turning when doing clicks.
The next day, Monday, Dr. Monegal came to visit me.
On Wednesday I already had the operation to replace the sensor, which in Fitbones is just under the skin; so just one cut to change the sensor. When the Fitbone still did not work, Dr. Monegal called Fitbone, and they send a replacement for free so that I could get operated the next day.
In addition, Dr. Monegal did not charge, he paid his medical team. I also did not pay for operation room and hospital stay of 6 days.
In short I was treated very well!
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Helloworld if that's what happened with you I don't think there is a reason to sue. Unless of course Fitbone is advertising a lower failure rate than it really has.
How are you MusicMaker, are you already walking unaided or with frames, is it true you've been on this path for 3 years ?
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Helloworld in your case 'almost' immediatedly but in Penguinn case they changed implant in OR so he had just 1 surgery and not 3 like you. In Musicmaker's case it took months for every failure and she was going to be charged for external fixator (not American guy) and when changed implant they sent her home in 1 day crying in pain (other patients told Lluser). What do you say about that truth? Is it ethical antitroll? The poor girl needs our help brainwashed 3 years by that man.
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Helloworld in your case 'almost' immediatedly but in Penguinn case they changed implant in OR so he had just 1 surgery and not 3 like you. In Musicmaker's case it took months for every failure and she was going to be charged for external fixator (not American guy) and when changed implant they sent her home in 1 day crying in pain (other patients told Lluser). What do you say about that truth? Is it ethical antitroll? The poor girl needs our help brainwashed 3 years by that man.
I think you're the one who needs help. Living in the past and talking about yourself in the 3rd person... have you tryed a psychiatrist?
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Not important, how do you have so much inside knowledge about Monegal patients ? Also why is everyone so fixated with MusicMaker?? With all this talk about her. What Is she going on right now ? Is it true it is 3 years after surgery and she has not recovered. That's very concerning and sad.
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Helloworld in your case 'almost' immediatedly but in Penguinn case they changed implant in OR so he had just 1 surgery and not 3 like you. In Musicmaker's case it took months for every failure and she was going to be charged for external fixator (not American guy) and when changed implant they sent her home in 1 day crying in pain (other patients told Lluser). What do you say about that truth? Is it ethical antitroll? The poor girl needs our help brainwashed 3 years by that man.
i don't care about musicmaker and i don't care about monegal. if that is what happened to musicmaker then she is more of a man than you'll ever be
only little boys that have never left their mama's basement are stunned to learn that the world isn't perfect
go outside and get some sun, batman
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Antitroll if you don't care about them why did you create an account to defend Dr Monegal?
Musicmaker is brave but not a hero. She's a victim like Cooper.
Llsouthamerica, I know the cases because I met some patients and I'm in touch with them and they met Musicmaker and others.
For me Musicmaker is the best example of Dr Monegal's malpractice destroying limbs and lives. People are interested in her because she's a beautiful girl and the worst case in LL recent history.
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blah blah blah more musicmaker blah blah blah i'm so delusional i call musicmaker a hero two days ago and now i'm saying she's not because the argument doesn't suit me anymore.. that's ok, it's just another thing i'll backtrack on, as long as i keep repeating her complications no one will realize i'm a loser psycho blah blah blah proofs! listen to me! i speak the truthhhhhhhh
People are interested in her because she's a beautiful girl and the worst case in LL recent history.
nobody is interested in some girl on the forum they will never even meet in real life. only you are you pervert. you still haven't answered us, how many times a day?
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I think monegal can get precice too. I think when complications arises is in Internal tibia patients, but Internal femurs are easier. Anyway I want precice 3.
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You all seem to have met MusicMaker to know she's beautiful. Is there a secret party of LL which I'm not invited to? :D
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You all seem to have met MusicMaker to know she's beautiful. Is there a secret party of LL which I'm not invited to? :D
nah, only @notimportant (AKA @LLuser) seems to be obsessed with her. But I doubt he met her, unless he is Cooper, which wouldn't be surprising (why the hate to Monegal if you haven't had a bad experience yourself?).
@notimportant , you already gave your opinion with so many accounts. Giving an opinion, based on real facts or not, will be acceptable in a forum, but you can't do anything more. Stop with the spam because people already think you have mental issues. Seriously, just move on. I hope the admins ban your IP or something if you keep this attitude, you are staining the forum.
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will you guys please start ignoring this guy?
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I've seen pics of her and she's very pretty but I'm not interested in her. I'm just sad that all this happened to her. The girl lost everything due the greed of her CLL doctor and she wasn't short. I don't have mental issues I only want to warn you. I'm not derailing I keep in my threads.
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Notimportant knows about Musicmaker because he messages members in private
I know this because he messaged me last week asking me what I know about her and/or Monegal. I ignored him though
Everyone should focus on themselves and stop wondering how others are doing
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I disagree completely. I know it is very difficult and naive to trust a forum where you don't know the faces of who posts. Still, I have inside knowledge (being a current LL patient) of how greedy LL doctors can be to the point to endangering patients. I know that of course current patients cannot speak badly of their doctor because they are afraid. Even so we as a community should be as open as possible with our individual journeys. Not for us, but for others who may do this surgery and ruin their lives because they weren't ready, were not good candidates or were too ambitious.
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There are so many things I would have loved to know before embarking in this journey. I would like to know the truth if there is a doctor who is coercing patients to advertise for him as people have told me about on private messages. I only know my experience but I would have benefited a lot from listening to them beforehand.
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LlSouthAmerica the problem is people in the forum are delusional. They so obsessed about getting LL that they focus on good experiences, they ignore bad experiences and dismiss their posters as liars and don't remember things can go wrong until it's too late for them. They think the doctor can't be a liar because he is a doctor but in fact doctors are the only ones who get (economical) profit by lying. Some 'trolls' post things about a doctor for good reasons not economical profit.
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Helloworld if that's what happened with you I don't think there is a reason to sue. Unless of course Fitbone is advertising a lower failure rate than it really has.
How are you MusicMaker, are you already walking unaided or with frames, is it true you've been on this path for 3 years ?
Thanks for advice!
If the implant was faulty then the makers is legally required to make person "whole" again, meaning compensation for the harm caused.
That said, I think the initial reaction of Fitbone maker was great. But the follow up reaction was not.
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You all seem to have met MusicMaker to know she's beautiful. Is there a secret party of LL which I'm not invited to? :D
No. There is an LL party in Barcelona, yes. But you, LLSouthamerica, are invited to come.
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Friend Notimportant is also invited
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No. There is an LL party in Barcelona, yes. But you, LLSouthamerica, are invited to come.
I hope you were serious because I might really visit sometime!! 😁 I envy you, psychologically it must really help to be surrounded by many people going through the same as you!!
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Many friends in Barcelona and in forum too. We support each other in LL process and against greedy doctors