Limb Lengthening Forum
Limb Lengthening Surgery => Height & Proportions => Topic started by: NewHeights on February 22, 2015, 04:57:06 PM
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I am a bit saddened and disturbed by the post "Height is the most important thing when dating girls" (because so many people actually believe this), so much so that I am making a counter-post.
First I want to say that I'm actually starting to think myself out of height neurosis (I thought myself into it, so I'm fighting to think myself out of it. Doing an "ok" job).
Anyway..... The main issue I have with this post is the failure to make the distinction between attraction and dating. When a girls falls for you (which I consider "dating"), she will care little about you being tall (as long as you are an inch or two taller than her, which should leave most of us with a huge DATING pool). She will care more about your kindness, personality, intellect, smile, manners, and compatibility.
And like I've always said "I would love to be 5' 10", because any girls who only want a 6 footer are jackasses. being 5' 10" would a allow me to avoid such girls".
Would you guys want to date a girl who cared more about height than anything else? That's the true question.
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I forgot to add something. I think many people have distorted ideas of what "height is important" means.
In a general sense, yes height is somewhat (maybe very) important in dating ---> "NewHeights, doesn't that mean I have to be 6' 2" otherwise girls won't date me?"...."Haha, no silly, it means that you have to be their height or taller. That's what most girls mean when they say "height is important""
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why i say that is the most important thing?
you need to be at least as tall as the girl, if not in most cases you are excluded.
beauty is something individual, you could be ugly for one girl and beautifull for another, but if you are shorter than those girls you will be almost always rejected , because the thinking that the girl needs to be smaller than the boy is something universal.
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Everything is important. Facial aesthetics, body, height, money and personality/character.
All of those factors can also be requirements. There are girls that won't date a fat guy, a deadbeat, a dunce, an ugly dude or a short guy. If you're tall but poor then you're out, if you're short but handsome then you're out, if you're tall & handsome but fat and poor then you're out, etc. The factors can also shift; if you've got a busted up face then being 6'2" can make you equivalent to an average looking 5'9" guy. Also there is different requirements for short-term and long-term intensions; a girl isn't going to care if you're unemployed if she's just looking for a ONS or one-week stand.
I hope those that think that height is the most important thing doesn't pass the psychological test for CLL because they will be very disappointed after getting the height.
Also I wanted to point out that every girl I've ever dated have been the type that were only looking for tall guys (6ft+).
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w1988 what is your motivation to do CLL?
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w1988 what is your motivation to do CLL?
Many reasons, I'm figuring out if I shouldn't mention some of them when the doc asks me.
Main reason is to fit better socially and in business, 5'6" is unfortunately just short enough to stand out (in a bad way) and if I was 5'9" I wouldn't have even considered CLL. I know I might sound boastful but I do have very good facial aesthetics and I dislike how my height can sometimes write that off. Third reason is that I'm a bit of a fashionisto and being 5'6" makes it difficult to look good; I have to get every pair of pants and blazers to be shorted up by a tailor even after buying them in short. I know that after CLL I'll still have to get the blazers shortened but that will actually make me look taller. Fourth is to get rid of some past regret; when I was growing up I avoided all physical activity, I was the type that begged my parents for a note to get out of PE and even got doctors to give notes to get me out of mile runs — I'm convinced that if I was physically active like everyone else then I would have got those extra 3 inches. Actually when I was a toddler the doctor said that I should be 6'1" so that also adds to my belief! Fifth reason is to perhaps do even better with attraction, but I'm looking at any gains to be from increased confidence rather than actually being taller.
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Many reasons, I'm figuring out if I shouldn't mention some of them when the doc asks me.
Main reason is to fit better socially and in business, 5'6" is unfortunately just short enough to stand out (in a bad way) and if I was 5'9" I wouldn't have even considered CLL. I know I might sound boastful but I do have very good facial aesthetics and I dislike how my height can sometimes write that off. Third reason is that I'm a bit of a fashionisto and being 5'6" makes it difficult to look good; I have to get every pair of pants and blazers to be shorted up by a tailor even after buying them in short. I know that after CLL I'll still have to get the blazers shortened but that will actually make me look taller. Fourth is to get rid of some past regret; when I was growing up I avoided all physical activity, I was the type that begged my parents for a note to get out of PE and even got doctors to give notes to get me out of mile runs — I'm convinced that if I was physically active like everyone else then I would have got those extra 3 inches. Actually when I was a toddler the doctor said that I should be 6'1" so that also adds to my belief! Fifth reason is to perhaps do even better with attraction, but I'm looking at any gains to be from increased confidence rather than actually being taller.
Height is not the problem if you cant be sucesfull in busines. Lots of short mans are. Intelligence and creativity are. So dont expect this to get better when you do CLL.
you are saying that your height write off your facial asthetics and you would do better with atraction so definetly you know that height is a really important think to atract womans.
another thing is because you need to short up your trousers haha thats a good one bro. Its a really important thing in life.
The last is because your doctor told you that you should be 6'1?
Hope people that thinks like that doesnt do CLL because they will regret
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I think:
1. Height is the most important thing when you create a first impression with a guy or a girl, boss or colleague. Beyond that, personality counts. Facial aesthetics come into play. Confidence matters.
2. Height might not be the most important thing during a first-impression for SOME people, guys and girls. They might be watching out for, for instance, social signs that you are confident/not confident, etc.
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I don't think it is so easy to regret doing LL insofar as you really want the height (and it has been a persistent desire for some time), and you do not have BDD (eg, I am six feet and I want to be 200 cm tall). People with BDD, they never get enough, 10 cm? No its not enough. Lengthen femurs10 cm. Then? Arm lengthening, penis lengthening, clavicle lengthening. Finally? Digit lengthening.
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you underrate how shallow girls are, men always look for good stuff in females to like, females always look for deal breakers in men.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsMena7yh40
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you underrate how shallow girls are, men always look for good stuff in females to like, females always look for deal breakers in men.
Many girls are shallow, as are many men. The problem is that we use generalizations too much. Also guys, don't elevate the woman too much. Remember, the grass is always greener the other side (meaning women have insecurities and are often never asked out or approached by men)
Instead of us being meek little men who are so scared of what woman want, we should use our advantage of being men in that we can shop for women. If we don't have enough qualifies (currency) for a certain woman, we can just approach another.
Believe me, there are tons of woman who are never shopped on and would fall for someone just because he had the courage to shop.
5% of short guys are more successful than 95% of tall guys because they have this courage.
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all you did was state a bunch of qualities that women look for when choosing a mate and then said............ see girls like these qualities also therefore height doesn't matter, and by that I mean height is not the most important qualiy.
excuse me dudes, but seriously you do realize that this does not in any way shape or form illustrate a structured argument based on logic? yes?
height is the most important quality that women look for. and my argument is based on this simple fact. if a man had every single characteristic to perfection and yet was really short compared to the average, 9 out of 10 girls would not even bother to get to know him sexually to start with let alone consider him husband material. any other characteristic out there is just a point adder,
if height is bad the girl does not even bother with your other characteristics 99% of the time. if all your other characteristics are bad they don't subtract points from your other characteristics like height does. height cancels the points you get from your other characteristics if it is deficient making it the most important characteristic.
as an example to illustrate my point.
2 people, both have every single characteristic as perfect in the eyes of women.
the first man though has a 1 inch penis.
the second man is a midget.
no girl would give a fk about the midget, however a great many women will still date the man with a 1 inch penis who has everything else perfect.
penis size being 1 inch, is about as bad as characteristics giving negative points can get, in my opinion. so I think my example proves a valid point. height is the most important characteristic. because height destroys the other characteristic points.
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all you did was state a bunch of qualities that women look for when choosing a mate and then said............ see girls like these qualities also therefore height doesn't matter, and by that I mean height is not the most important qualiy.
excuse me dudes, but seriously you do realize that this does not in any way shape or form illustrate a structured argument based on logic? yes?
height is the most important quality that women look for. and my argument is based on this simple fact. if a man had every single characteristic to perfection and yet was really short compared to the average, 9 out of 10 girls would not even bother to get to know him sexually to start with let alone consider him husband material. any other characteristic out there is just a point adder,
if height is bad the girl does not even bother with your other characteristics 99% of the time. if all your other characteristics are bad they don't subtract points from your other characteristics like height does. height cancels the points you get from your other characteristics if it is deficient making it the most important characteristic.
as an example to illustrate my point.
2 people, both have every single characteristic as perfect in the eyes of women.
the first man though has a 1 inch penis.
the second man is a midget.
no girl would give a fk about the midget, however a great many women will still date the man with a 1 inch penis who has everything else perfect.
penis size being 1 inch, is about as bad as characteristics giving negative points can get, in my opinion. so I think my example proves a valid point. height is the most important characteristic. because height destroys the other characteristic points.
I disagree with your assertions. First of all, I made another post a while ago that included a study which found that shoulder to hip ratio, height, and penis size are all significant factors in male physical attractiveness, with penis size and height being tied and shoulder to hip ratio being the most important.
Height is important in that the guy should be taller than the girl. People distort what "height is important" means. Remember, the study found that shoulders are more important.
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I disagree with your assertions. First of all, I made another post a while ago that included a study which found that shoulder to hip ratio, height, and penis size are all significant factors in male physical attractiveness, with penis size and height being tied and shoulder to hip ratio being the most important.
Height is important in that the guy should be taller than the girl. People distort what "height is important" means. Remember, the study found that shoulders are more important.
oh goodie. a discussion :)
since all the other characteristics (not in bold) are generalizations I cant really discuss them.
a midget with perfect shoulder to hip ratio and all other characteristics(being perfect) vs a perfect man with terrible/worst shoulder to hip ratio imaginable.
nope the perfect man with terrible shoulder to hip ratio will still get massively more women than the midget with perfect shoulder to hip ratios.
your shoulder to hip ratio theory is wrong. height trumps it.
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remember the topic now.
we are discussing the single most important characteristic for mate selection.
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oh goodie. a discussion :)
since all the other characteristics (not in bold) are generalizations I cant really discuss them.
a midget with perfect shoulder to hip ratio and all other characteristics(being perfect) vs a perfect man with terrible/worst shoulder to hip ratio imaginable.
nope the perfect man with terrible shoulder to hip ratio will still get massively more women than the midget with perfect shoulder to hip ratios.
your shoulder to hip ratio theory is wrong. height trumps it.
The shoulder to hip ratio is meant to be viewed in the realm of normalcy. Using the example of a midget falls out of that realm.
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A girl wont really be able to tell the difference between 5'10 and 6'0. When you hear them talk about minimum 5'10 they are basically saying minimum 5'9 and if you are 5'8 they still wont tell the difference as long as they are shorter. Personally i think the perfect male height is 5'9. Not tall to be annoyed consistently by bat crazy girls and not short enough to be disrespected.
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A girl wont really be able to tell the difference between 5'10 and 6'0. When you hear them talk about minimum 5'10 they are basically saying minimum 5'9 and if you are 5'8 they still wont tell the difference as long as they are shorter. Personally i think the perfect male height is 5'9. Not tall to be annoyed consistently by bat crap crazy girls and not short enough to be disrespected.
I generally agree with you Moose, but I feel the perfect number is 5 11"
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well I don't think I should argue it anymore.
who do you think will have the most percentage of the population(population in terms of girls).
a man who is perfect but is the 1st percentile for shoulder to hip ratio.
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a man who is perfect but is the 1st percentile for height.
I guaranty you girls don't even pay attention to proportions like you think they do. but they will instantly reject a short man as they do pay attention to height.
your welcome to keep thinking the way you do. but I guess we cant really prove this 1 way or the other.
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i think that some people in this fórum live in mars not in the earth.
Height is the most important physical caracteristic for woman.
If you are really short they doesnt care about any other good caracteristic that you have, you are out.
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who would date a girl first?
1-brad pitt face with 5foot height.
2-adrien brody ( ugly man with 6foot 1)
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what kirp1 is trying to explain, it's that height is the only physical characteristic, which you can't change, that can be considered as unacceptable for a romance with a woman.
I would like to add than when you ask a girl to describe the perfect man, she always, or atleast in 50 % of the cases, to mention his stature.
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what kirp1 is trying to explain, it's that height is the only physical characteristic, which you can't change, that can be considered as unacceptable for a romance with a woman.
I would like to add than when you ask a girl to describe the perfect man, she always, or atleast in 50 % of the cases, to mention his stature.
Yes unfortunately height is an important part of our attractivness. Obviously it isn't the most important but if you are too far out of the average range it will be an issue more or less.
Also I think we can all agree that it is very benificial to be tall, i.e more than 7CM above the average height.
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7 cm above the national average height feels good, really. Good enough to feel tall.
7 cm above the youth average (if there is such a thing. like a broken tape recorder, I saw the pdf files of western countries. youth height = national average), feels great, divine in fact. I think the youth in my country is 175 cm average (but again, I repeat, this is perception. doesn't agree with statistics).So for me I guess 182 cm is great.
As your country average is higher, the no. of cm might be smaller. ie, maybe 5 cm above youth average of 180 cm is already tall, instead of 7 cm. (cf: another shorter country)
As you get taller, the returns diminish.
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so 189 cm is perfect in Sweden
in my coutry (france) it's 187 cm
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so 189 cm is perfect in Sweden
in my coutry (france) it's 187 cm
Would say 191-2CM is pretty much perfect, but that's just my opinion.
Can't say anything about france though.
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Yes unfortunately height is an important part of our attractivness. Obviously it isn't the most important but if you are too far out of the average range it will be an issue more or less.
Also I think we can all agree that it is very benificial to be tall, i.e more than 7CM above the average height.
100% this. It's when you're far out of the range of "average" (super short or super tall) that your height will really negatively impact your life. This also goes for men who are too tall.
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100% this. It's when you're far out of the range of "average" (super short or super tall) that your height will really negatively impact your life. This also goes for men who are too tall.
You are correct sir. I found a study a while ago that polled college girls on "average attractiveness score based on height". 5' 11" to 6' had the highest average score, while below 5' 7" and above 6' 5" were relatIvely low. Let's not forget though, that the 6 5" guys are rare, and the 20% of girls who want them will be like leeches.
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You are correct sir. I found a study a while ago that polled college girls on "average attractiveness score based on height". 5' 11" to 6' had the highest average score, while below 5' 7" and above 6' 5" were relatIvely low. Let's not forget though, that the 6 5" guys are rare, and the 20% of girls who want them will be like leeches.
Exactly as I thought. And we have to account for the fact that, even though girls SAY 5'11-6' is most attractive, they can't tell visual height down to the exact inch (unless they themselves are very tall women), so even 5'9-5'10 guys can almost be in this "ideal" range. It's when you're under 5'7" (especially if you're stocky/fat/too built) that you start to appear very short. So I'm very happy at 5'8", even if I'm a pinch under, because I feel like in more of "safe" range (especially considering the other things I have going for me).
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the 6 5" guys are rare, and the 20% of girls who want them will be like leeches.
You're onto something, while I don't think most girls mind a guy being way tall, it's only a fetisch for some.
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You're onto something, while I don't think most girls mind a guy being way tall, it's only a fetisch for some.
Women who go after super tall men are called "Size Queens," and trust me, they definitely exist. I've known a few, and they are typically some of the shallowest women you could possibly meet. Some very hot, yes...but in the long-run, not marriage material, no.
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You're onto something, while I don't think most girls mind a guy being way tall, it's only a fetisch for some.
This is a freak confidence that you said tall guy fetish, but I was actually thinking right after my post that I wonder if and girls have a "short guy fetish"
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Women who go after super tall men are called "Size Queens," and trust me, they definitely exist. I've known a few, and they are typically some of the shallowest women you could possibly meet. Some very hot, yes...but in the long-run, not marriage material, no.
Once again, you hit the nail on the leg Yellow. Any girls who ONLY WANT a guy who is 6ft and up are jackasses
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Height is the most important physical caracteristic for woman.
I think we're living in different worlds bro, facial aesthetics is the most important. Only ugly guys would say otherwise.
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who would date a girl first?
1-brad pitt face with 5foot height.
2-adrien brody ( ugly man with 6foot 1)
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5ft would be a midget, bad example. This forum is also almost entirely CLL rather than LL for necessity/disability.
If he was say 5'6 or 5'7 then definitely the brad lookalike over adrien brody. I'm 5'6" handsome as fk and I take the attention of girls from tall guys all the time especially when tall guy is ugly and sometimes even when they are average looking. I've never chatted up a girl and then lost her to a tall guy that wasn't facially attractive.
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I think we're living in different worlds bro, facial aesthetics is the most important. Only ugly guys would say otherwise.
haha , im not ugly bro, definitely it is when you are very short!
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5ft would be a midget, bad example. This forum is also almost entirely CLL rather than LL for necessity/disability.
If he was say 5'6 or 5'7 then definitely the brad lookalike over adrien brody. I'm 5'6" handsome as fk and I take the attention of girls from tall guys all the time especially when tall guy is ugly and sometimes even when they are average looking. I've never chatted up a girl and then lost her to a tall guy that wasn't facially attractive.
you are handsome as fk? this forum is full of handsome people with 140 IQ
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5ft would be a midget, bad example. This forum is also almost entirely CLL rather than LL for necessity/disability.
If he was say 5'6 or 5'7 then definitely the brad lookalike over adrien brody. I'm 5'6" handsome as fk and I take the attention of girls from tall guys all the time especially when tall guy is ugly and sometimes even when they are average looking. I've never chatted up a girl and then lost her to a tall guy that wasn't facially attractive.
I somewhat agree with you. I used to be a little over 5'5"...and I've been told how handsome I am my entire life. I've even done some facial modeling (and have been told I could model if I weren't so short). My facial aesthetics are what saved me and still allowed me to get good looking girls ,but I still felt that I had to work harder. Perhaps it was more of a confidence issue with me, but when I was in a group of guys competing for women, I felt like my height "ruined" me in a lot of cases. I think if I were at least 5'7" I would have cared a lot less, because you're still as tall as most women...but I was very short. My online dating profiles got tons of views (they saw my face/default pic first), but only a few attractive women would actually message me, I can only assume because of my height (because my profiles were kick-ass and well written with great/varied pictures).
I think now with my facial aesthetics and extra height, i won't have any problems.
I think it goes like this:
If you're at least 5'7" --> Facial Aesthetics > Height
If you're under 5'7" --> Height > Facial Aesthetics
If you're 5'10+ with Facial Aesthetics --> God-mode activated
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I somewhat agree with you. I used to be a little over 5'5"...and I've been told how handsome I am my entire life. I've even done some facial modeling (and have been told I could model if I weren't so short). My facial aesthetics are what saved me and still allowed me to get good looking girls ,but I still felt that I had to work harder. Perhaps it was more of a confidence issue with me, but when I was in a group of guys competing for women, I felt like my height "ruined" me in a lot of cases. I think if I were at least 5'7" I would have cared a lot less, because you're still as tall as most women...but I was very short. My online dating profiles got tons of views (they saw my face/default pic first), but only a few attractive women would actually message me, I can only assume because of my height (because my profiles were kick-ass and well written with great/varied pictures).
I think now with my facial aesthetics and extra height, i won't have any problems.
yeah man, now at your height you are taller than most girls, you arent going to have any problem
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I think it goes like this:
If you're at least 5'7" --> Facial Aesthetics > Height
If you're under 5'7" --> Height > Facial Aesthetics
If you're 5'10+ with Facial Aesthetics --> God-mode activated
i agree with you :)
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i agree with you :)
Haha yeah, this is always how I felt, and what I've observed. The biggest player I knew in college was 5'7", maybe 5'7.5", but he had super great facial aesthetics. He got girls like there was no tomorrow. The other player in our crew was 6'2", good looking as well, but not as good looking as the 5'7" guy. The two of them took most of the girls. But then again, back then, I didn't even know how to talk to girls, and also didn't hit my "stride" yet.
yeah man, now at your height you are taller than most girls, you arent going to have any problem
I hope so man! Now I think any issues that I may have are just in my head. I'm not THAT short anymore.
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Haha yeah, this is always how I felt, and what I've observed. The biggest player I knew in college was 5'7", maybe 5'7.5", but he had super great facial aesthetics. He got girls like there was no tomorrow. The other player in our crew was 6'2", good looking as well, but not as good looking as the 5'7" guy. The two of them took most of the girls. But then again, back then, I didn't even know how to talk to girls, and also didn't hit my "stride" yet.
I hope so man! Now I think any issues that I may have are just in my head. I'm not THAT short anymore.
yeah man, now at your height and with great facial aesthetics the only you need is self esteem and talk to girls being sympathetic , you're going to be a heartbreaker bro!
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If you're at least 5'7" --> Facial Aesthetics > Height
If you're under 5'7" --> Height > Facial Aesthetics
If you're 5'10+ with Facial Aesthetics --> God-mode activated
I think you nailed it.
you are handsome as fk? this forum is full of handsome people with 140 IQ
Well I've always been told that I am handsome/cute and the fact that I still get attractive girls at 168cm is a testament to that (I've always only dated sun-kissed cute/hot blondes). I've posted pics on bodybuilding forum of my before/after and most comments were about my facial aesthetics rather than the weight loss. Also I dress most days of the week like a come out of a GQ magazine, my avatar is my pic btw. I might have exaggerated on the 'handsome as fk' maybe I'm an 8.5/10 facially.
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I think you nailed it.
Well I've always been told that I am handsome/cute and the fact that I still get attractive girls at 168cm is a testament to that (I've always only dated sun-kissed cute/hot blondes). I've posted pics on bodybuilding of my before/after and most comments were about my facial aesthetics rather than the weight loss. Also I dress most days of the week like a come out of a GQ magazine, my avatar is my pic btw. I might have exaggerated on the 'handsome as fk' maybe I'm an 8.5/10 facially.
Yeah I'm pretty sure my little chart is very accurate. It's what I've seen an observed over the years. 5'6" isn't too terrible, but I was closer to 5'5", and thanks to my facial aesthetics, I still did pretty well with getting attractive women. Ironically, I tended to do better with women who were taller than me (they would always ask me out first).
I think overall, facial aesthetics is a slightly more powerful weapon than height...but if you're under 5'7", that's when you start having to work harder and your facial aesthetics won't help as much.
Another thing I hated about being short, handsome and built? Gay men checking me out...EVERYWHERE I went. I have no problem with gay men, or even them checking me out (I take it as compliment). But it was like "damn, I wish this many hot girls would eye f#ck me like that." Short gay men I would say have almost no height discrimination to worry about as far as dating is concerned.
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Yeah I'm pretty sure my little chart is very accurate. It's what I've seen an observed over the years. 5'6" isn't too terrible, but I was closer to 5'5", and thanks to my facial aesthetics, I still did pretty well with getting attractive women. Ironically, I tended to do better with women who were taller than me (they would always ask me out first).
I think overall, facial aesthetics is a slightly more powerful weapon than height...but if you're under 5'7", that's when you start having to work harder and your facial aesthetics won't help as much.
Another thing I hated about being short, handsome and built? Gay men checking me out...EVERYWHERE I went. I have no problem with gay men, or even them checking me out (I take it as compliment). But it was like "damn, I wish this many hot girls would eye f#ck me like that." Short gay men I would say have almost no height discrimination to worry about as far as dating is concerned.
Hey YellowSpike,
After reading a lot of your post, I can relate on so many levels (I think the same way you do lol). Your observations are very true about height and reaching the 5'8 mark. My starting height is just like yours 166cm at night after a long day, sometimes 166.5 but never lower. I hope to do 6.5-7 cm to on tibia to be a strong 5'8 and that should be good enough as I too have a lot going for me. I think being 5'8 plus with longer legs, will give off the illusion of being average. Your chart is spot on!
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Hey YellowSpike,
After reading a lot of your post, I can relate on so many levels (I think the same way you do lol). Your observations are very true about height and reaching the 5'8 mark. My starting height is just like yours 166cm at night after a long day, sometimes 166.5 but never lower. I hope to do 6.5-7 cm to on tibia to be a strong 5'8 and that should be good enough as I too have a lot going for me. I think being 5'8 plus with longer legs, will give off the illusion of being average. Your chart is spot on!
Thanks man! I'd like to think I'm level-headed (most of the time ;) )
I don't know my exact morning and evening heights, and I'd rather not lol. One doctor measured my height around 166.5+, but that was around 10am (though I had been up for hours already at that point). Dr. Guichet and another doctor both measured me at 166cm (when standing perfectly straight) around 2pm and 5:30pm respectively (I think we hit our "night height" after being awake for like 4-5 hours, I believe, I could be wrong. Sad how I'm obsessing over this lol).
So I think I'm just about tall enough now where I can comfortably say I'm 5'8". I'm also built, but thin (I always made sure NEVER to get too big, it makes you look shorter, and it's obvious you'e compensating), and I try to wear clothes are well fitted to give the illusion of more height.
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Thanks man! I'd like to think I'm level-headed (most of the time ;) )
I don't know my exact morning and evening heights, and I'd rather not lol. One doctor measured my height around 166.5+, but that was around 10am (though I had been up for hours already at that point). Dr. Guichet and another doctor both measured me at 166cm (when standing perfectly straight) around 2pm and 5:30pm respectively (I think we hit our "night height" after being awake for like 4-5 hours, I believe, I could be wrong. Sad how I'm obsessing over this lol).
So I think I'm just about tall enough now where I can comfortably say I'm 5'8". I'm also built, but thin (I always made sure NEVER to get too big, it makes you look shorter, and it's obvious you'e compensating), and I try to wear clothes are well fitted to give the illusion of more height.
Yes! I also wear fitted clothing and I'm always looking to stay on slim/cut side as getting to big really does make you look smaller.The only reason I know my morning height and night height is because I have a stadiometer lol. In a relaxed position I'm 166-166.5 night and if i'm well hydrated and not very active during the day i can measure easily over 167. Morning height is about 168.3 on the dot but quickly goes down within the first hour. I hope hitting 5'8 feels good, reading your diary gives me that much more hope! I get caught up in the numbers game too but my goal is no doubt over 173 (or 172.7) ;D
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Yes! I also wear fitted clothing and I'm always looking to stay on slim/cut side as getting to big really does make you look smaller.The only reason I know my morning height and night height is because I have a stadiometer lol. In a relaxed position I'm 166-166.5 night and if i'm well hydrated and not very active during the day i can measure easily over 167. Morning height is about 168.3 on the dot but quickly goes down within the first hour. I hope hitting 5'8 feels good, reading your diary gives me that much more hope! I get caught up in the numbers game too but my goal is no doubt over 173 (or 172.7) ;D
lol well it sounds like you have a slightly better starting height than I did! I just know I was about 5'5 1/3" at night (166cm). I've never measured myself right after waking up in the morning, and most of the time when I have an early doctor's appointment, I've already been up for at least 2 or so hours. So I'm guessing at best I might be 167.5 in the morning.
And you mean 172.72cm ;) I think you'll be fine. You have a better starting height than I do. I'm going to have to take up yoga and gluco supplements for the rest after I'm recovered lol
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lol well it sounds like you have a slightly better starting height than I did! I just know I was about 5'5 1/3" at night (166cm). I've never measured myself right after waking up in the morning, and most of the time when I have an early doctor's appointment, I've already been up for at least 2 or so hours. So I'm guessing at best I might be 167.5 in the morning.
And you mean 172.72cm ;) I think you'll be fine. You have a better starting height than I do. I'm going to have to take up yoga and gluco supplements for the rest after I'm recovered lol
That's something i really want to do after LL, even if the gain is just 1 cm doing yoga and taking glucosamine seems legit. My posture isn't the best so more then 172.72 is a bonus 8). (175 cm would be so cool if you could gain 2cm+ from yoga and gluco). Really looking forward to reading your post after LL at 5'8 and the difference it will make. Stay strong bro! :)
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That's something i really want to do after LL, even if the gain is just 1 cm doing yoga and taking glucosamine seems legit. My posture isn't the best so more then 172.72 is a bonus 8). (175 cm would be so cool if you could gain 2cm+ from yoga and gluco). Really looking forward to reading your post after LL at 5'8 and the difference it will make. Stay strong bro! :)
I gained 1 cm from yoga and the dynamic height increase programme (permanent). I also grew 0.5 cm using glucosamine supplements.
Please don't hurt your body trying higher than 1500 mg daily. I tried up to 10000 mg daily putting me at higher risk of Diabetes or gastrointestinal side effects. It doesn't affect the result.
I tried combining with HA, but the result diminished.. Surprise surprise..
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I gained 1 cm from yoga and the dynamic height increase programme (permanent). I also grew 0.5 cm using glucosamine supplements.
Please don't hurt your body trying higher than 1500 mg daily. I tried up to 10000 mg daily putting me at higher risk of Diabetes or gastrointestinal side effects. It doesn't affect the result.
I tried combining with HA, but the result diminished.. Surprise surprise..
Any good book/pdfs on yoga that you can recommend? How about pilates? I'm going to check out the dynamic height increase program, Thank you Itsmylife!
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Thanks man! I'd like to think I'm level-headed (most of the time ;) )
I don't know my exact morning and evening heights, and I'd rather not lol. One doctor measured my height around 166.5+, but that was around 10am (though I had been up for hours already at that point). Dr. Guichet and another doctor both measured me at 166cm (when standing perfectly straight) around 2pm and 5:30pm respectively (I think we hit our "night height" after being awake for like 4-5 hours, I believe, I could be wrong. Sad how I'm obsessing over this lol).
So I think I'm just about tall enough now where I can comfortably say I'm 5'8". I'm also built, but thin (I always made sure NEVER to get too big, it makes you look shorter, and it's obvious you'e compensating), and I try to wear clothes are well fitted to give the illusion of more height.
yellow, you are correct. But one way you can maintain your morning height for a longer time is to sit slouched (130 degree is best, its proven). That reduces the intervertebral tension. I also always lie down flat on my bed or anywhere I can. It will give you a temporary 5-10 mm boost :P
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Well, the topic at hand taken literally is very true, I wouldn't say height is the MOST important for dating. And probably not the MOST important for short term relationships either.
But height is of even more importance than usual with short term 'hookup' relationships, because ovulating women are shown to have a larger preference for taller males than non-ovulating ones. So essentially when she's horny she'll pick the taller male, probably because height is a very primitive and visceral thing, and it refutes the thought that women who like tall males are just doing so to 'keep appearances' so to speak.
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Well, the topic at hand taken literally is very true, I wouldn't say height is the MOST important for dating. And probably not the MOST important for short term relationships either.
But height is of even more importance than usual with short term 'hookup' relationships, because ovulating women are shown to have a larger preference for taller males than non-ovulating ones. So essentially when she's horny she'll pick the taller male, probably because height is a very primitive and visceral thing, and it refutes the thought that women who like tall males are just doing so to 'keep appearances' so to speak.
This is gospel for all of us, bro
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Obviously you're trying to trash what I wrote, but i've ran into multiple posts on here claiming that height is cultural rather than instinctual. And that 'height culture' is what has caused our woes and if it didn't exist everything would just be fine and dandy for us. So it is indeed gospel for some here. As a short male i'm not looking to cope about my height, i'm just looking for the facts.
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Obviously you're trying to trash what I wrote, but i've ran into multiple posts on here claiming that height is cultural rather than instinctual. And that 'height culture' is what has caused our woes and if it didn't exist everything would just be fine and dandy for us. So it is indeed gospel for some here. As a short male i'm not looking to cope about my height, i'm just looking for the facts.
In Asia there is this height thing going on, but I have rarely heard of height discrimination, except in dating. It seems most girls want guys above 170. Some 180 in Korea. The work-place discrimination.. I have never heard but it seems a country's leader is almost always tall?